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-{{BackTo|Lighting_System#Lamp_Specifications}}+{{BackTo|Bulbs}}
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 +Replace your old bulbs with new high-tech {{search.me|LED}} bulbs.
 + 
 + [{{Post|492788}} LED bulbs]
 + [{{Post|465831}} LED Lighting!]
= Advantages = = Advantages =
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* Long Lasting. Replace bulbs less frequently * Long Lasting. Replace bulbs less frequently
* Safer. Indicators and stop lamps activate more quickly thus alerting following drivers * Safer. Indicators and stop lamps activate more quickly thus alerting following drivers
-* Style. More possibilities allowed, such as built-in sequential turn signal animation+* Style. More possibilities allowed
-* Space-saving is possible+** Halo head lights (Angle eyes)
-* Less heat generated, so interior bulbs do not damage the lenses+** built-in sequential turn signal animation
 +** many colors, including adjustable colors (RGB lights)
 +* Space-saving is possible, though for replacement bulbs this is not important
 +* Less heat generated, so interior bulbs do not damage the lenses. The stock bulbs only did this if the connections got dirty, still, the lower power needs of LED bulbs prevent this
<table class="wiki_table"> <table class="wiki_table">
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<tr><td>Maintenance/Long Life</td><td>over 3,000 hours</td><td>500 hours</td></tr> <tr><td>Maintenance/Long Life</td><td>over 3,000 hours</td><td>500 hours</td></tr>
</table>source: {{web|www.koito.co.jp/english/technology/koito/system.html|Koito}} </table>source: {{web|www.koito.co.jp/english/technology/koito/system.html|Koito}}
- 
-* Since the LED version can be so much brighter, consider a dimmer. 
= Disadvantages = = Disadvantages =
-* Price. LED bulbs usually have a greater initial cost than incandescent bulbs. However, this is offset long-term by the longer life+* Price. LED bulbs usually have a greater initial cost than incandescent bulbs. However, this is offset long-term by the longer life (6x lifespan typical)
-* Selection. Very confusing as to specs, performance and quality+* Selection. [{{Post|492813}} Very confusing] as to specs, performance and quality
 +* [[#Indicators]]. The stock Turn_Signals flasher system is load-based, so fitting lower watt LED bulbs changes the flashing time. This is easily remedied by changing to a modern flasher unit
== Lifetime == == Lifetime ==
-LEDs get darker than incandescents, so remember to replace them long before they burn out.+LEDs have long lifetimes compare to old-fashioned incandescent bulbs, up to 10x. But, LEDs get darker than incandescents, so remember to replace them long before they burn out.
- Incandescent 2000 hours 7% loss+
- CFL 10000 hours 22% loss+
- LED 20000 hours 30% loss+
-= Tail Light Generations =+<table class="wiki_table">
-Early LED tail lights used many small bulbs to replace a single incandescent bulb, resulting in a "spotty" look.+<tr><th>technology</th><th>time period</th><th>reduction in brightness</th></tr>
 +<tr><td>{{wikiEx|Incandescent_light_bulb|Incandescent}}</td><td>2000 hours</td><td>7% loss</td></tr>
 +<tr><td>{{wikiEx|Compact_fluorescent_lamp|CFL}}</td><td>10000 hours</td><td>22% loss</td></tr>
 +<tr><td>{{wikiEx|Light-emitting_diode|LED}}</td><td>20000 hours</td><td>30% loss</td></tr>
 +</table>
 + 
 += Indicators =
 +The stock [[Turn_Signals|turn-signal flasher system]] is load-based, so fitting lower watt LED bulbs changes the flashing time. This is easily remedied by changing to a modern [[Turn_Signals#Electronic_Flasher|load-independent flasher unit]].
 + 
 + Load-independent Flasher
 + 2-pin Electronic Flasher
 + http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/312zjLibm2L._SY400_.jpg
 + 
 += Tail Lights =
 +{{See|Tail Lights}}
 +{{SeeEx|see=Main|Bulbs#1._Exterior_single_element.2C_one_bottom_contact|Rear Turn Signal Bulbs}}
 +{{SeeEx|see=Main|Bulbs#2._Exterior_dual_element.2C_two_bottom_contacts|Rear Park & Stop Light Bulbs}}
 + 
 + {{search|1157+LED+bulb|1157 LED bulb}}
 + {{search|1156+LED+bulb|1156 LED bulb}}
 + 
 +== Tail Light Generations ==
 +Early LED tail lights used many small bulbs to replace the incandescent bulbs in a tradition lamp housing, but this results in a "spotty" look. 2nd-gen designs incorporate the LEDs into the Lamp/Reflector design for a new look, enabling new styles.
{{web|www.ichikoh.com/en/tobira/technique.html|Ichikoh}} {{web|www.ichikoh.com/en/tobira/technique.html|Ichikoh}}
 +
<table class="wiki_table"> <table class="wiki_table">
-<tr><td>1st Gen</td><td>Multiple spots of light<br>separate reflector</td></tr>+<tr><th>generation</th><th>technology</th></tr><tr><td>1st Gen</td><td>Multiple spots of light<br>separate reflector</td></tr>
<tr><td>2nd Gen</td><td>Smooth look<br>integrated reflector</td></tr> <tr><td>2nd Gen</td><td>Smooth look<br>integrated reflector</td></tr>
<tr><td>3rd Gen</td><td>Advanced look<br>multiple accent features</td></tr> <tr><td>3rd Gen</td><td>Advanced look<br>multiple accent features</td></tr>
</table> </table>
 +{{Album|28521}}
 +
 += Head Lights =
 +{{Main|Headlights}}
 +
 +Replace the stock 7" round sealed beam [[headlights]] with LED versions
 +* For looks
 +* For lower power usage
 +* Not for brightness. H4 headlights can be brighter. Halogens are available in high-lumen versions (sealed beam or H4/H1 versions)
 +
 +LED headlights can be even brighter while using the least power. The only down downside is LED headlights are ugly.
 +<br>{{UploadPost|174_5d9e5081981f7.jpg|492822}}
 +
 +halo headlights (LED ring around the head lamp)
 +<br>{{UploadPost|8461_4e79b219cfde6.jpg|383586}}
 +
 +Wagner H6024LED is a USA DOT-compliant headlight for right-hand roads
 +* brighter than H6024 Halogen
 +* wider beam pattern
 +* whiter beam (higher color temperature) for truer-color vision
 +{{UploadPost|174_5d9c6a6d17087.jpg|492809}}
 +
 +GE NIGHTHAWK
 +<br>{{UploadPost|174_5d9e5b5b58540.jpg|492823}} {{UploadPost|174_5de08c4b95112.jpg|493153}}
 +
 +See this 2019 shootout for how bad LED headlights can be, and how good<br>{{YouTube|peFLmu2MfTg|7" round LED headlight shootout}}
 +
 +The problem with LED headlights is aiming. Be sure to re-aim your lights after installation.
 +{{Main|Headlight Aiming}}
 +And beware lighting performance will drop off when loading the car or carrying rear-seat passengers. New cars have self-leveling systems to mitigate that problem, but they still are not aimed very well. See {{web|www.cars.com/articles/new-iihs-headlight-tests-illuminate-many-poor-performers-1420684250604|Headlight Tests}}
 +
 += Dash Lamps =
 +{{SeeEx|Bulbs#7._Instrument_Panel_Lamp|Instrument Panel Lamps}}
 +
 +[{{Post|386450}} dash led bulbs]
 +
 +Beware, many LED replacement bulbs are a slightly different dimension and so have trouble fitting.
 +
 +For the dash meter illumination bulbs, since the LED version can be so much brighter, consider installing a dimmer, such as the stock 1200 [[Illumination Control]] option. Some LED bulbs don't work with a dimmer but others do.
 +
 +INSTRUMENT PANEL BULBS
 +RockAuto $5/pair
 +[{{Post|465831}} Philips 194 - 1W] (replaces stock 1.5W or 1.7W bulbs). Type 194 is normally less bright than stock, but the LED version is supposed to be brighter???
 +
 +T10 bulbs with a T5 base. W2.1x9.5d base (aka W2 or T5 base), also known in USA as "Miniature Wedge" because the T5 base fits into the Wedge socket.
 +
 += Room Lamp =
 +{{Main|Bulbs#6._Dome_Lamp}}
 +
 +For interior [[Room Lamp]] (dome lamp), many prefer a warm color, so as to not overpower the eyes at night. You need your "night vision" to efficiently watch the road. Then you pull over to check something, turn on the room lamp and it floods the car with harsh blue light. When it's time to pull back onto the road, it will take some time for your eyes to re-adjust to the darkness. Perhaps a warm yellowish light &mdash; bright enough to see the car interior &mdash; is better.
 +
 +By contrast, a map light needs to be brighter/bluer so that the map is clearly seen. A map lght is usually a "spot lamp" or at least a focused lens, so it doesn't overpower all your vision.
[[Category:Body Electrical System]]{{End}} [[Category:Body Electrical System]]{{End}}

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Replace your old bulbs with new high-tech <LED> bulbs.

POST LED bulbs
POST LED Lighting!

Contents

Advantages

  • Power efficiency. Use less electricity
  • Higher performing. Brighter
  • Long Lasting. Replace bulbs less frequently
  • Safer. Indicators and stop lamps activate more quickly thus alerting following drivers
  • Style. More possibilities allowed
    • Halo head lights (Angle eyes)
    • built-in sequential turn signal animation
    • many colors, including adjustable colors (RGB lights)
  • Space-saving is possible, though for replacement bulbs this is not important
  • Less heat generated, so interior bulbs do not damage the lenses. The stock bulbs only did this if the connections got dirty, still, the lower power needs of LED bulbs prevent this
LEDIncandescent
Environment/Power-saving0.2 W5 W
Safety/Response2ms
(equal to a distance of 0.05m when driving at 100km/h)
300ms
(equal to a distance of 9m when driving at 100km/h)
Maintenance/Long Lifeover 3,000 hours500 hours
source: Koito

Disadvantages

  • Price. LED bulbs usually have a greater initial cost than incandescent bulbs. However, this is offset long-term by the longer life (6x lifespan typical)
  • Selection. POST Very confusing as to specs, performance and quality
  • #Indicators. The stock Turn_Signals flasher system is load-based, so fitting lower watt LED bulbs changes the flashing time. This is easily remedied by changing to a modern flasher unit

Lifetime

LEDs have long lifetimes compare to old-fashioned incandescent bulbs, up to 10x. But, LEDs get darker than incandescents, so remember to replace them long before they burn out.

technologytime periodreduction in brightness
Incandescent2000 hours7% loss
CFL10000 hours22% loss
LED20000 hours30% loss

Indicators

The stock turn-signal flasher system is load-based, so fitting lower watt LED bulbs changes the flashing time. This is easily remedied by changing to a modern load-independent flasher unit.

Load-independent Flasher
2-pin Electronic Flasher
312zjLibm2L._SY400_.jpg

Tail Lights

See also: Tail Lights
1157 LED bulb
1156 LED bulb

Tail Light Generations

Early LED tail lights used many small bulbs to replace the incandescent bulbs in a tradition lamp housing, but this results in a "spotty" look. 2nd-gen designs incorporate the LEDs into the Lamp/Reflector design for a new look, enabling new styles.

Ichikoh

generationtechnology
1st GenMultiple spots of light
separate reflector
2nd GenSmooth look
integrated reflector
3rd GenAdvanced look
multiple accent features

28521.jpgAlbum 28521

Head Lights

Replace the stock 7" round sealed beam headlights with LED versions

  • For looks
  • For lower power usage
  • Not for brightness. H4 headlights can be brighter. Halogens are available in high-lumen versions (sealed beam or H4/H1 versions)

LED headlights can be even brighter while using the least power. The only down downside is LED headlights are ugly.
174_5d9e5081981f7.jpgPost 492822

halo headlights (LED ring around the head lamp)
8461_4e79b219cfde6.jpgPost 383586

Wagner H6024LED is a USA DOT-compliant headlight for right-hand roads

  • brighter than H6024 Halogen
  • wider beam pattern
  • whiter beam (higher color temperature) for truer-color vision

174_5d9c6a6d17087.jpgPost 492809

GE NIGHTHAWK
174_5d9e5b5b58540.jpgPost 492823 174_5de08c4b95112.jpgPost 493153

See this 2019 shootout for how bad LED headlights can be, and how good
 V I D E O  7" round LED headlight shootout (click to view)
hqdefault.jpg

The problem with LED headlights is aiming. Be sure to re-aim your lights after installation.

And beware lighting performance will drop off when loading the car or carrying rear-seat passengers. New cars have self-leveling systems to mitigate that problem, but they still are not aimed very well. See Headlight Tests

Dash Lamps

POST dash led bulbs

Beware, many LED replacement bulbs are a slightly different dimension and so have trouble fitting.

For the dash meter illumination bulbs, since the LED version can be so much brighter, consider installing a dimmer, such as the stock 1200 Illumination Control option. Some LED bulbs don't work with a dimmer but others do.

INSTRUMENT PANEL BULBS RockAuto $5/pair POST Philips 194 - 1W (replaces stock 1.5W or 1.7W bulbs). Type 194 is normally less bright than stock, but the LED version is supposed to be brighter???

T10 bulbs with a T5 base. W2.1x9.5d base (aka W2 or T5 base), also known in USA as "Miniature Wedge" because the T5 base fits into the Wedge socket.

Room Lamp

For interior Room Lamp (dome lamp), many prefer a warm color, so as to not overpower the eyes at night. You need your "night vision" to efficiently watch the road. Then you pull over to check something, turn on the room lamp and it floods the car with harsh blue light. When it's time to pull back onto the road, it will take some time for your eyes to re-adjust to the darkness. Perhaps a warm yellowish light — bright enough to see the car interior — is better.

By contrast, a map light needs to be brighter/bluer so that the map is clearly seen. A map lght is usually a "spot lamp" or at least a focused lens, so it doesn't overpower all your vision. 

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