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Camshaft Timing

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Checking and adjusting the camshaft timing is an important part of a competition engine. You can also do the same for your street 1200 to ensure you are getting the expected performance. Checking and adjusting the camshaft timing is an important part of a competition engine. You can also do the same for your street 1200 to ensure you are getting the expected performance.
-Also see [[Camshaft Comparison]]+{{See|Camshaft Comparison}}<br>
= Overview = = Overview =
Find TDC Find TDC
 +* degree wheel on crank pulley
* One dial indicator on piston head * One dial indicator on piston head
** Through spark plug hole ** Through spark plug hole
** or, directly if head is removed ** or, directly if head is removed
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3639 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/3639.jpg]+{{Album|3639}}
-<br>NOTE: You can also use a piston stop to find TDC+<br>NOTE: You can also use a piston stop to [[#find TDC]]
- +
Advance crankshaft (turn clockwise) until lifter comes up 0.050": Advance crankshaft (turn clockwise) until lifter comes up 0.050":
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Check each lobe the same way to see if any lobes are worn. Check each lobe the same way to see if any lobes are worn.
 +
 += Find TDC =
 +* Turn the crank pulley to line up the timing cover "0" with the crank pulley mark. This is TDC.
 +
 +OR
 +
 +* Find true TDC using positive stopped piston
 +
 +Use a {{search|14mm+piston+stop|14mm piston stop}} $16 USD (or you can make one).
 +<br>{{UploadPost|174_6103ddba1cda1.jpg|495656}}
 +# pull all plugs so you can easily turn engine by hand
 +# Put engine in approximate TDC, then rotate a bit further
 +# thread in the Stop to the #1 spark plug hole. Then turn the shaft in until it stops on the piston
 +# rotate back (by hand) a bit to be sure then engine stops (hits the Piston Stop)
 +# Mark the pulley
 +# rotate the opposite way (almost a full turn) until engine stops again
 +# Mark the pulley
 +Halfway between the two marks is TDC
= Fine Adjustments = = Fine Adjustments =
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Modified timing cover to suit adjustable cam gear Modified timing cover to suit adjustable cam gear
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3640 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/3640.jpg]+<br>{{Album|3640}
Retarding the cam moves the power band up in the RPM range Retarding the cam moves the power band up in the RPM range
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Slotted cam pulley for adjustment Slotted cam pulley for adjustment
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3639 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/3639.jpg]+<br>{{Album|3639}}
Measuring lift Measuring lift
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9528 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/9528.jpg]+<br>{{Album|9528}}
= Factory Specifications = = Factory Specifications =
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248/248 as used by standard A12 248/248 as used by standard A12
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23656 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/23656.jpg]+<br>{{Album|23656}}
<br>248/248/14/54/12/56 <br>248/248/14/54/12/56
Late-model Late-model
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18422 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/18422.jpg]+<br>{{Album|18422}}
<br>248/244/14/50/12/56 <br>248/244/14/50/12/56
<br>248/248/14/54/12/56 <br>248/248/14/54/12/56
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B310 Australia? B310 Australia?
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6195 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/6195.jpg]+<br>{{Album|6195}}
<br>A14: 256/248 <br>A14: 256/248
<br>A12: 248/248 <br>A12: 248/248
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210/199 Camtech "turbo" profile 600A68A-TURBO 210/199 Camtech "turbo" profile 600A68A-TURBO
<br>246/239/14/52/4/55 <br>246/239/14/52/4/55
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=921 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/921.jpg] +<br>{{Album|921}}
<br>228/228 Iskenderian D8-66 <br>228/228 Iskenderian D8-66
<br>228/228/5/43/6/43 <br>228/228/5/43/6/43
<br>266/256/24/62/24/62 <br>266/256/24/62/24/62
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=7518 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/7518.jpg] +<br>{{Album|7518}}
274/271 JTS 104CB 274/271 JTS 104CB
<br>212/212/-2/35/-5/37 <br>212/212/-2/35/-5/37
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14441 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/14441.jpg] +<br>{{Album|14441}}
291/296 JTS 140-6 291/296 JTS 140-6
<br>238/238/15/42/10/47 <br>238/238/15/42/10/47
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=15607 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/15607.jpg]+<br>{{Album|15607}}
Smiths Regrinds (Mace Engineering) Smiths Regrinds (Mace Engineering)
<br>0.050 specs not listed <br>0.050 specs not listed
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=7041 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/7041.jpg]+<br>{{Album|7041}}
Camtech Cams Camtech Cams
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<br>608: 241/243 4000-7000 RPM <br>608: 241/243 4000-7000 RPM
<br>604: 250/253 4400-8200 RPM <br>604: 250/253 4400-8200 RPM
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23657 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/23657.jpg]+<br>{{Album|23657}}
JUN Camshafts JUN Camshafts
<br>68, 72, 74, 76, 80, 82 <br>68, 72, 74, 76, 80, 82
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23658 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/23658.jpg]+<br>{{Album|23658}}
74 [[Bprojects]] RACING CAMSHAFT 296-7.0 74 [[Bprojects]] RACING CAMSHAFT 296-7.0
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Auckland Cams Auckland Cams
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 + 
 + 
 +grind #A057 Auckland Cams
 + Type: Fast Road
 + IN Advertised duration: 280 degrees
 + EX Advertised duration: 280 degrees
 + IN Duration at .050": 233 degrees
 + IN Duration at .050": 233 degrees
 + IN Cam lift:.284"
 + EX Cam lift .284"
 + Lobe separation: 108.5 degrees
 +This cam will have a lopey idle and is suitable for high performance street use and/or rally applications. Wide power band 2200-7000 rpm. Can be used with stock standard engine and will run well. For best results use with of 10.0 to 1 compression ratio, twin carbs and extractors.
 + 
 += Conversion =
 +Japan to non-Japan duration
 + 
 + 68 272
 + 70
 + 72 288
 + 74 296
 + 76 304
 + 80 320
 + 82 328
= Valve Lift = = Valve Lift =
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= Valve Lash = = Valve Lash =
Aftermarket camshaft grinders recommend from 0.010" to 0.024" depending on the profile (standard lash is 0.013" warm/0.014" cold). Aftermarket camshaft grinders recommend from 0.010" to 0.024" depending on the profile (standard lash is 0.013" warm/0.014" cold).
 +
 +[[Category:Valvetrain]]{{End}}

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Checking and adjusting the camshaft timing is an important part of a competition engine. You can also do the same for your street 1200 to ensure you are getting the expected performance.


Contents

Overview

Find TDC

  • degree wheel on crank pulley
  • One dial indicator on piston head
    • Through spark plug hole
    • or, directly if head is removed

3639.jpgAlbum 3639
NOTE: You can also use a piston stop to #find TDC

Advance crankshaft (turn clockwise) until lifter comes up 0.050":

  • Second dial indicator on pushrod, to measure cam lift
  • Timing wheel to have 360 degree measurement

Note the degree at which 0.050 lift occurs

Continue turning and note maximum lift. Compare to the camshaft specification sheet that comes with your camshaft. Or to the factory specifications below.

Check each lobe the same way to see if any lobes are worn.

Find TDC

  • Turn the crank pulley to line up the timing cover "0" with the crank pulley mark. This is TDC.

OR

  • Find true TDC using positive stopped piston

Use a 14mm piston stop $16 USD (or you can make one).
174_6103ddba1cda1.jpgPost 495656

  1. pull all plugs so you can easily turn engine by hand
  2. Put engine in approximate TDC, then rotate a bit further
  3. thread in the Stop to the #1 spark plug hole. Then turn the shaft in until it stops on the piston
  4. rotate back (by hand) a bit to be sure then engine stops (hits the Piston Stop)
  5. Mark the pulley
  6. rotate the opposite way (almost a full turn) until engine stops again
  7. Mark the pulley

Halfway between the two marks is TDC

Fine Adjustments

Advance or retard the camshaft using:

  • offset key for cam pulley
  • or, adjustable cam pulley

Modified timing cover to suit adjustable cam gear
{{Album|3640}

Retarding the cam moves the power band up in the RPM range

Advancing the cam lowers the power band in the RPM range.

Of course using the right camshaft is even better, but this technique can be used to see the effects:

  • fine tune the cam to the engine
  • fine tune the cam/engine to each particular track
  • cover up a mis-matched cam

Slotted cam pulley for adjustment
3639.jpgAlbum 3639

Measuring lift
9528.jpgAlbum 9528

Factory Specifications

See Camshaft Comparison for more details.

240/240 duration (A10 Datsun 1000)
248/248 duration (standard small bore A12/A13)
256/248 duration (standard large bore A14/A15)
256/256 duration (performance engines GX/A12T/EGI)
248/244 duration (1981-1982 USA)

248/248 as used by standard A12
23656.jpgAlbum 23656
248/248/14/54/12/56

Late-model
18422.jpgAlbum 18422
248/244/14/50/12/56
248/248/14/54/12/56
248/244/14/50/12/56
256/248/14/54/20/56

B310 Australia?
6195.jpgAlbum 6195
A14: 256/248
A12: 248/248

Aftermarket Specifications

210/199 Camtech "turbo" profile 600A68A-TURBO
246/239/14/52/4/55
921.jpgAlbum 921


228/228 Iskenderian D8-66
228/228/5/43/6/43
266/256/24/62/24/62
7518.jpgAlbum 7518

274/271 JTS 104CB
212/212/-2/35/-5/37
14441.jpgAlbum 14441

291/296 JTS 140-6
238/238/15/42/10/47
15607.jpgAlbum 15607

Smiths Regrinds (Mace Engineering)
0.050 specs not listed
7041.jpgAlbum 7041

Camtech Cams
618: 199/196 2000-6000 RPM
639: 210/210 2400-6400 RPM
621: 220/223 2600-6800 RPM
609: 231/235 3200-7200 RPM
608: 241/243 4000-7000 RPM
604: 250/253 4400-8200 RPM
23657.jpgAlbum 23657

JUN Camshafts
68, 72, 74, 76, 80, 82
23658.jpgAlbum 23658

74 Bprojects RACING CAMSHAFT 296-7.0

Usage: new-style A12
Duration: 74 (296)
Cam Lift: 7.0mm (0.276")
Cold Valve Clearance: 0.3mm (0.012")
Valve Timing Centerline: 103.5(Deg)
Wavy groove finish and Surface Coating
*TOMEI Ouality Control

Auckland Cams
23659.jpgAlbum 23659


grind #A057 Auckland Cams

Type: Fast Road 
IN Advertised duration: 280 degrees 
EX Advertised duration: 280 degrees 
IN Duration at .050": 233 degrees 
IN Duration at .050": 233 degrees 
IN Cam lift:.284" 
EX Cam lift .284" 
Lobe separation: 108.5 degrees 

This cam will have a lopey idle and is suitable for high performance street use and/or rally applications. Wide power band 2200-7000 rpm. Can be used with stock standard engine and will run well. For best results use with of 10.0 to 1 compression ratio, twin carbs and extractors.

Conversion

Japan to non-Japan duration

68 272
70 
72 288
74 296
76 304
80 320
82 328

Valve Lift

Each manufacturer specifies this differently. The spec is valve lift (at the valve) but the cam lobe lift is amplified by the rocker arm ratio less valve lash:

Nissan: 1.44 ratio, cam lift not specified
JTS: 1.5 ratio, but they also specify cam lift
Camtech: cam lift only specified
Isky: ~1.48 ratio

For example:

Nissan cam lobe in.: 1.426" std (wear limit: 1.4055")
Nissan cam lobe in.: 1.187" base circle
Nissan cam lift: ~0.239"
Nissan Lash: ~0.013"
Nissan ratio: 1.44
Nissan valve lift: 0.331"

Valve Lash

Aftermarket camshaft grinders recommend from 0.010" to 0.024" depending on the profile (standard lash is 0.013" warm/0.014" cold). 

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