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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

5-speed Identification

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To identify a 5-speed transmission, look for the series casting mark (56, 56A, 60, 63) on the left side of the gearbox.

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Casting Mark

The series casting mark is on the right side of the gearboxes.

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60 series has it on the lower right side in front of the center plate

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56 series 5-speed has it right side about center
56 series 4-speed has it forward of here
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63A has it on the lower right side of the extension housing

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Ribbed-case vs Smooth-case

56-series trannies are small and light, and have these visible ribs on the case and bell section.

1662.jpg 56 four-speed 1675.jpg F5C56 5-speed

By contrast, 60-series and 63-series are "smooth case" transmission with no ribs on the bellhousing area.

Smooth Case 56

There are some rare smooth-case 56-series gearboxes. It is unknown what these are out of.

See 56-series Smooth Case

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Compare to 63-series, which has a rib around the middle section:
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Compare to 60-series, which has a ring around the engine flange area:
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60 vs 56

945.jpg 56A & 60A comparo (4-speeds) Size; shape comparison.

Pitroad F5C56A transmission (b110)


what gearbox is it?
Dog Leg Gear Boxes

1674.jpg F5C56A and F5W60L Comparison

60L vs 60A

NOTE: -L and -A do not indicate the engine type

The FS5W60L is known in Japan the "low-back 5-speed" and came in the early B310 Sunny, and 1979 model year USA B310.


reference: Iruka, Sunnytruck
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F5W60A and F5W60L Comparison

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60A vs 60L

Identification: 1979 Datsun 210 (B310) 5-speed "FS5W60L"

  • Oil plug out the back is 60L (not pointing down like 60A)
  • H90 part prefix (cast into cluster plate) is unique to this transmission
  • Unique double-gear cluster gear in extension housing is 60L
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  • 60L in right-and-up position is Direct (4th) per dogleg shifter. Whereas in the 60A this same position is 5th.
  • 60L has no boss sticking out the right side of the back, whereas the 60A has it (up high).


And who_your_datty_1200 pointed out that the #2 casting mark on the back is an indicator of the dogleg shift pattern.

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However this might be gear options or more likely just a casting revision.

63-series 5-speed

Top: 63 'big boy', Bottom: 60 series
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The 63 transmission came with A14-powered B210 (HB210 and HLB210). It was not used by Nissan Competition for racing. Instead the 56-series was recommended for the small cars, and the 71 for the larger cars.

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The 1977-1978 USA got B210s with factory 5-speed transmissions. Here's an advertisement for one:
1661.jpg MPG Champion - Datsun B210
This is the FS5W63A "dogleg" transmission. Note the casting line around the center section on the otherwise smooth housing.
1278.jpg 63A

953.jpg 63A
954.jpg 63A

955.jpg 63A
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63a

63 series L-engine vs A-engine

63 series gearboxes speeds were available for A14 engines and for L-series engines, Z-series engines and J-series engine. So be careful to match the bell pattern and make sure the one you buy fits the A-series.

See Main Article: 63 series L-engine vs A-engine

4-speed vs 5-speed, 63 Series

17431.jpg If you see the bottom pan, it's a 4-speed

For more information, see: 63-Series_Transmission#4-speed_vs_5-speed

4-speed vs 5-speed, 60 Series

Make sure you don't purchase a 4-speed by accident :-) they are very similar looking.

60L 5-speed

Left side: Almost identical
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Right side: Bulge in tailhousing is larger
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60A 5-speed

Left side. Top: 60L 4-speed
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Bottom: 60A 5-speed

From the left side, the difference is less obvious. But you can still see the bulge in the extension housing for the 5th gear.

4-speed vs 5-speed, 56 Series

See Main Article: F5C56#4-speed vs 5-speed

The 5-speed:

  • top two case bolts are long (2-3" long)
  • has a reverse light switch on top, pointing straight back

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R vs F Comparo

Vanette "Remote" shift transmission could be used for parts to repair an "F" Floor shift 60A.

4650.jpg comparison