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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

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 +These just unbolt from the rear of the alternator, very easy to check and replace if necessary.

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Datsun 1200 was fitted with a lightweight (8.4 pound) 35 AMP Hitachi alternator. These alternators will usually last 10-15 years or more than 100,000 miles before maintainence is required. The only normal maintainence is to replace the brushes when the dashboard alternator light starts flickering. The alternator uses an external Voltage regulator.


Contents

Mounting

Early A-series engines (1966-1973) mount the alternator down low on the left side of the engine, under the intake manifold as shown in this photo:

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1974-up engines mount it high on the right side of the engine. For the A Engine Redesign, the alternator was moved to this position to make room for an Air conditioning pump or Smog pump.

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Wiring

See: Wiring article.

Testing

The alternator has four terminals:

  • A - alternator connects to Battery cable + 12V via large white/red wire.
  • E - earth/ground. Connected to case of alternator, hence though bracket to the engine. Engine is grounded by black cable (part of the two-cable negative battery cable)
  • F - the Field. This needs 12V to get the alternator working. The Voltage regulator turns this on/off (12V) rapidly to achieve an average of 13.5-15.0 volts
  • N - Nuetral point. This is connected to the dash Lamp. This is optional, the alternator will function with this disconnected.


Test Procedures

  • With engine running at 1100 rpm, measure Voltage across battery cable. If it reads between 13.5-15.0 volts, everything is fine (or over 12.5 volts headlights on main beams)
  • Measure Ohms between F & E terminals. It should be approxmiately 5 ohms. If higher or lower, remove alternator and inspect.
  • Perform Regulator Bypass Test
    1. Be sure to test at A & E terminals, to bypass external wiring problems
    2. Disconnect T-shaped connector (F+N) at alternator, to bypass the regulator wiring
    3. Jump the F terminal to Battery +
    4. Test with headlight main beams on
    18733.jpg
    Output at 1100 should be 12.5 volts or higher


Brush comparo:

19305.jpg

  • Left: worn down to the limit line
  • right: New

These just unbolt from the rear of the alternator, very easy to check and replace if necessary.


Interchange

Strict interchange:

  • Alternator (35 AMP model)
    • 510 1968-early 1971 USA
    • 521 1969-early 1971 USA
    • 620 1973-1979 USA
  • Alternator (50 AMP model)
    • F10 1976-1977 USA
    • 510 Late 1971 USA
    • 521 Late 1971 USA
    • 620 1973-1979 USA

Loose interchange: Many kinds of alternators. See Upgrade section below.

Part Numbers

http://www.rockauto.com

  • 23100-U0100 Stock 35 amp Hitachi LT-135-13
    • 23100-U0102 Hitachi LT-135-35B
    • 23100-U0103 Hitachi LT-135-35C
    • OE+ AL208 $18.04 USD
    • BECK/ARNLEY 1860077 $35.79
    • BOSCH AL231X,AL232X $50.79


B210 A13 engine 50 amp Hitachi LT-150

  • 23100-P0101 ASSY-ALTERNATOR OP -0973
  • 23100-H6203 ASSY-ALTERNATOR OP 1073-0874
    • replaces 23100-P0101, 23100-H6200, 23100-H6201, 23100-H6202


B210 A14 engine 50 amp Hitachi LT-150


Brushes

Hitachi LT

  • Nissan 1970-1978
  • Subaru 1977-1978
  • Isuzu (Chevrolet) 1975-1987


B110

  • 23133-H0300 ASSY-HOLDER,BRUSH $5.95
    19305.jpg


Brush Assembly with cover

  • 23133-U0101 ASSY-BRUSH B210 -0874 $10.97
    • replaces 23133-U0100
  • 23133-P0100 ASSY-BRUSH B210 0974 $12.19


Fits

  • Mazda 1986 323
  • Mazda 1986-1987 B2000
  • Mazda 1981-1986 626
  • Mazda 1981-1985 GLC
  • Mazda 1981-1984 B2000
  • Datsun 1970-1973 240Z
  • Datsun 1974 260Z
  • Datsun 1973-1976 610
  • Datsun 1974-1977 710
  • Datsun 1980-1981 810
  • Datsun 1975-1977 B210
  • Datsun 1975-1977 620
  • Datsun 1976-1977 F10
  • Datsun 1973-1974 620 PICKUP


Brush Assembly

  • 23135-H0300- F B110, B210 A13 $5.95
  • 23135-H0301- E B110, B210 A13

Brushes, requires soldering

  • STANDARD MOTOR PRODUCTS Part # JX107 $2.79

Regulator

B110 uses an external voltage regulator. It uses a connector with spade terminals, and so is different from B210 which uses round pins. It controls the alternator output to between 13.5-15.0 volts.

See main article: Voltage regulator


Upgrades

If you are running high-power headlights, off-road lighting systems, or high-power stereo gear, using a high output alternator is called for. Or, if you need to replace the 1200 alternator and have free or inexpensive access to different alternators, you might consider a swap. Lastly you might have a bad Voltage regulator, and by swapping to an internally-regulated alternator reliability increases since these use a solid-state (no moving parts) regulator.

There are two major considerations in a swap:

  1. Physical swap. How does it bolt to the A12 engine?
  2. Electrical swap. How will the new alternator be connected to the wiring?

For more details, see Alternator Upgrades.