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Alternator Upgrades

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Many different Datsun alternators and alternators from other makes can easily be fitted to the Datsun 1200. If you are running high-power headlights, off-road lighting systems, or high-power stereo gear, using a high output alternator is called for. Or, if you need to replace the 1200 alternator and have free or inexpensive access to different alternators, you might consider a swap. Lastly you might have a bad Voltage regulator, and by swapping to an internally-regulated alternator reliability increases since these use a solid-state (no moving parts) regulator. Many different Datsun alternators and alternators from other makes can easily be fitted to the Datsun 1200. If you are running high-power headlights, off-road lighting systems, or high-power stereo gear, using a high output alternator is called for. Or, if you need to replace the 1200 alternator and have free or inexpensive access to different alternators, you might consider a swap. Lastly you might have a bad Voltage regulator, and by swapping to an internally-regulated alternator reliability increases since these use a solid-state (no moving parts) regulator.
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= Physical Specifications = = Physical Specifications =
[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5088 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5088.jpg] Alternator Comparison & swap info [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5088 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5088.jpg] Alternator Comparison & swap info
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Stock Hitachi LT-135 35A Stock Hitachi LT-135 35A
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* Pulley diameter: 69mm * Pulley diameter: 69mm
* Adjustment bolt: Flange threaded for M8x1.25 bolt * Adjustment bolt: Flange threaded for M8x1.25 bolt
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= Electrical Connector = = Electrical Connector =
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Other alternators use different connectors. Since the LT-135 uses spade connectors, wiring should be pretty simple. Other alternators use different connectors. Since the LT-135 uses spade connectors, wiring should be pretty simple.
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= Hitachi LT-150 = = Hitachi LT-150 =
Hitachi LT-150 looks like it will bolt right in place of stock LT-135 -- but the alternator rubs against the lower radiator hose. It could be made to work, but is not recommended. Hitachi LT-150 looks like it will bolt right in place of stock LT-135 -- but the alternator rubs against the lower radiator hose. It could be made to work, but is not recommended.
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* 9.6 pounds: [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?catalog=23&partnum=AL237X&a=FR23-AL237X Bosch AL237X] 50A 1974-1978 * 9.6 pounds: [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?catalog=23&partnum=AL237X&a=FR23-AL237X Bosch AL237X] 50A 1974-1978
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Hitachi 50 Amp (Bosch AL237X) Hitachi 50 Amp (Bosch AL237X)
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* DATSUN F10 (1976 - 1978) * DATSUN F10 (1976 - 1978)
* Fits same as Bosch #AL241X 60AMP * Fits same as Bosch #AL241X 60AMP
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= Internal Regulator Alternator = = Internal Regulator Alternator =
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== Sunny Truck == == Sunny Truck ==
Nissan 23100-B9810 (Mitsubishi A1T22971/Hitachi LR135), 35A internally regulated is a direct physical replacement for the original (small) B110 alternator. It even will use the same fan pulley belt. It is wired differently however (see [[Hitachi_LR_Alternator#Wiring|Hitachi LR Alternator Wiring]]). Nissan 23100-B9810 (Mitsubishi A1T22971/Hitachi LR135), 35A internally regulated is a direct physical replacement for the original (small) B110 alternator. It even will use the same fan pulley belt. It is wired differently however (see [[Hitachi_LR_Alternator#Wiring|Hitachi LR Alternator Wiring]]).
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<br>LS wiring (see [[Hitachi_LR_Alternator#Wiring|Hitachi LR Alternator Wiring]]) <br>LS wiring (see [[Hitachi_LR_Alternator#Wiring|Hitachi LR Alternator Wiring]])
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<br>CAUTION: T-connector is LS wired, not FN wired <br>CAUTION: T-connector is LS wired, not FN wired
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Also see [[Alternator#Sunny_Truck|Alternator Part Numbers]] Also see [[Alternator#Sunny_Truck|Alternator Part Numbers]]
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== Hitachi LR == == Hitachi LR ==
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Newer Datsuns from about 1978 came with an alternator with internal-regulator, the LR150/LR160, including fitment on newer A-series engines. Newer Datsuns from about 1978 came with an alternator with internal-regulator, the LR150/LR160, including fitment on newer A-series engines.
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See main article: [[Hitachi LR Alternator]] See main article: [[Hitachi LR Alternator]]
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= Hardware = = Hardware =
* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6716 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/6716.jpg] Alternator tension rod makes adjustments easy * [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6716 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/6716.jpg] Alternator tension rod makes adjustments easy
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Many different Datsun alternators and alternators from other makes can easily be fitted to the Datsun 1200. If you are running high-power headlights, off-road lighting systems, or high-power stereo gear, using a high output alternator is called for. Or, if you need to replace the 1200 alternator and have free or inexpensive access to different alternators, you might consider a swap. Lastly you might have a bad Voltage regulator, and by swapping to an internally-regulated alternator reliability increases since these use a solid-state (no moving parts) regulator.

Contents

Overview

There are two major considerations in a swap:

  • Physical swap. How does it bolt to the A12 engine?
  • Electrical swap. How will the new alternator be connected to the wiring?

Early A engine (1966-1973) has limited room for alternator. It is mounted low, under manifolds, on left side of engine. The larger 50A alternator will bolt to the bracket, but the alternator rubs against the lower radiator hose. It could be made to work, but is not recommended.

Physical Specifications

5088.jpg Alternator Comparison & swap info

Stock Hitachi LT-135 35A

  • Weight: 8.4 pounds with pulley
  • Front flange (bolt ears): 13mm thick
  • Distance between engine-side mounting ears: 80mm
  • Distance between Adjustment bolt and mount bolt: 156mm
  • 10.5mm diameter mount holes
  • Diameter of body: 114mm (4.5")
  • Fan belt center: 29mm from front bolt face
  • Pulley diameter: 69mm
  • Adjustment bolt: Flange threaded for M8x1.25 bolt

Electrical Connector

Datsun 1200 uses the typical 1970s Hitachi T-shaped connector:

  • Field
  • Nuetral point

Other alternators use different connectors. Since the LT-135 uses spade connectors, wiring should be pretty simple.

Hitachi LT-150

Hitachi LT-150 looks like it will bolt right in place of stock LT-135 -- but the alternator rubs against the lower radiator hose. It could be made to work, but is not recommended.

Hitachi 50 Amp (Bosch AL237X)

  • CHEVROLET LUV PICKUP (1981 - 1982)
  • ISUZU PICKUP (1981 - 1986)
  • ISUZU PICKUP NORMAL CAB 1987
  • ISUZU TROOPER (1984 - 1985)
  • DATSUN 200SX 1977
  • DATSUN 610 (1974 - 1976)
  • DATSUN 710 (1975 - 1977)
  • DATSUN B210 (1975 - 1977)
  • DATSUN F10 (1976 - 1978)
  • Fits same as Bosch #AL241X 60AMP

Internal Regulator Alternator

Sunny Truck

Nissan 23100-B9810 (Mitsubishi A1T22971/Hitachi LR135), 35A internally regulated is a direct physical replacement for the original (small) B110 alternator. It even will use the same fan pulley belt. It is wired differently however (see Hitachi LR Alternator Wiring).

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Nissan 23100-B8910
Mitsubishi Electric Corporation A1T22971
12V 35A 1X23
LS wiring (see Hitachi LR Alternator Wiring)

21284.jpg
CAUTION: T-connector is LS wired, not FN wired

21285.jpg

Also see Alternator Part Numbers

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Hitachi LR

Newer Datsuns from about 1978 came with an alternator with internal-regulator, the LR150/LR160, including fitment on newer A-series engines.

See main article: Hitachi LR Alternator

More Swaps

Hardware

  • 6716.jpg Alternator tension rod makes adjustments easy