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-Engine mounting xmember x-member cross-member +The engine-mounting cross-member is what Datsun calls the "'''front suspension member'''", also known as '''x-member''' (X for cross).
-Also see: [[Engine Mounts]] (for rubber insulators and engine brackets)+ Also See: [[Engine Mounts]] (for rubber insulators and engine brackets)
= Front Crossmember = = Front Crossmember =
-[http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/sightings/forum/1200_crossmember.jpg 1970-1973 1200 Crossmember] (two high towers)+1970-1973 1200 Crossmember (two high towers)
-<br><img size=400>http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/sightings/forum/1200_crossmember.jpg</img>+<br>{{Photo|1200_crossmember.jpg|sightings/forum}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=13676 Rear: Late 1200 crossmember] (one short tower)+1973-1994 1200 Crossmember (short + high towers)
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/13676.jpg</img>+<br>{{Album|20196}} {{AlbumH|20197|jpg|127}}
 + 
 +Rear: Late 1200 crossmember (one short tower, one high tower)
<br>Front: Early 1200 crossmember <br>Front: Early 1200 crossmember
 +<br>{{Album|13676}}
The engine crossmember for the Datsun 1200 fits the 1971-1973 A12 engine. The A10 engine from the earlier Datsun 1000 will also bolt in. To fit a newer engine -- a 1974-up A12 or A13, A14 or A15 -- a newer crossmember may be used, or an modified motor mount brackets may be fabricated (see [[A-series Engine Swaps]]). The newer crossmember is from the 1974-up [[B120|Datsun 1200 truck]]. Note that B210 or other crossmembers '''do not''' fit the 1200. The engine crossmember for the Datsun 1200 fits the 1971-1973 A12 engine. The A10 engine from the earlier Datsun 1000 will also bolt in. To fit a newer engine -- a 1974-up A12 or A13, A14 or A15 -- a newer crossmember may be used, or an modified motor mount brackets may be fabricated (see [[A-series Engine Swaps]]). The newer crossmember is from the 1974-up [[B120|Datsun 1200 truck]]. Note that B210 or other crossmembers '''do not''' fit the 1200.
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For engine types other than A-series, see: [[Engine Swaps]] For engine types other than A-series, see: [[Engine Swaps]]
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8487 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8487.jpg]Early A12 ute vs. Late A12 ute+Early A12 vs. Late A12 ute (suitable for 1974-up A12, A13, A14 or A15)
-<br>Suitable for 1974-up A12, A13, A14 or A15+<br>{{Album|8487}}
Modified -- newer engine mounts sit further back on right side Modified -- newer engine mounts sit further back on right side
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14316 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/14316.jpg]+<br>{{Album|14316}}
B110 holes are 656 mm apart, and 60mm from each other B110 holes are 656 mm apart, and 60mm from each other
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22877 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/22877.jpg]+<br>{{Album|22877}}
== PB110 Crossmember == == PB110 Crossmember ==
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== B210 Comparison == == B210 Comparison ==
120Y vs B110 120Y vs B110
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/12432.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12432 album]+<br>{{Album|12432}}
-<br>120Y (A12-powered B210) is slighty wider, and of course has late style mounts suitable for A14/A15 & late A12+<br>120Y (A12-powered B210) is slighty wider, and of course has late style mounts suitable for late A12 + A14/A15.
North American A13/A14-powered B210 has a mid-sump crossmember, almost exactly identical to the 510 crossmember. See [[L/Z/KA/SR_Crossmember]]. North American A13/A14-powered B210 has a mid-sump crossmember, almost exactly identical to the 510 crossmember. See [[L/Z/KA/SR_Crossmember]].
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B210 760.6 mm X 62mm(?) or 80mm(?) B210 760.6 mm X 62mm(?) or 80mm(?)
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26089 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/26089.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26088 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/26088.jpg]+{{Album|26089}} {{Album|26088}}
== Installation & Removal == == Installation & Removal ==
See main article: [[Changing Crossmember]] See main article: [[Changing Crossmember]]
-== Part Numbers ==+== Engine Swaps==
-&#12501;&#12525;&#12531;&#12488;&#12288;&#12469;&#12473;&#12506;&#12531;&#12471;&#12520;&#12531;&#12288;&#12513;&#12531;&#12496;&#12540;+Remove the crossmember uprights/horn (engine mount brackets), then you can weld different horns suitable for your engine choice.
-54480M+ See [[Engine Swaps]]
-B110 & early B120+1200 [[crossmember]] with horns removed, suitable for swapping most engine types with front-sump oil pan.
-* 54401-H3900 MEMBER ASS'Y-front suspension +<br>{{Album|7749}}
-** 08194-06510 BOLT (4)+
-** 32886-22000 WASHER-body bolt (8)+
-** 08915-14010 WASHER-lock (4)+
-** 08911-54010 NUT (4)+
-* 54401-H1000 [early part, interchangable with -H3900]+
-** 81-94065-1 BOLT (4)+
-** 32886-22000 WASHER-body bolt (8)+
-** 89-15140-1 WASHER-lock (4)+
-** 89-11540-1 NUT (4)+
 +{{Album|7750}}
-Late B120+== Part Numbers ==
-* 54401-G1601 MEMBER ASSY-FRONT SUSPENSION 8504-+&#12501;&#12525;&#12531;&#12488;&#12288;&#12469;&#12473;&#12506;&#12531;&#12471;&#12520;&#12531;&#12288;&#12513;&#12531;&#12496;&#12540;
-** replaced 54401-G1600 MEMBER ASSY-FRONT SUSPENSION 7510-8503+
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4921 front suspension]+ 54480M
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/4921.jpg</img>+ B110 & early B120
 + * 54401-H3900 MEMBER ASS'Y-front suspension
 + 08194-06510 BOLT (4)
 + 32886-22000 WASHER-body bolt (8)
 + 08915-14010 WASHER-lock (4)
 + 08911-54010 NUT (4)
 + * 54401-H1000 [early part, interchangable with -H3900]
 + 81-94065-1 BOLT (4)
 + 32886-22000 WASHER-body bolt (8)
 + 89-15140-1 WASHER-lock (4)
 + 89-11540-1 NUT (4)
 + Late B120
 + * 54401-G1601 MEMBER ASSY-FRONT SUSPENSION 8504-
 + replaced 54401-G1600 MEMBER ASSY-FRONT SUSPENSION 7510-8503
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=21274 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/21274.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23748 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/23748.jpg]+[[Front Suspension Part Numbers]]
 +<br>{{Album|4921}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=25584 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/25584.jpg]+{{Album|21274}} {{Album|25584}}
-= Measurements = +== Measurements ==
-Front engine crossmember bolts+ Front engine crossmember bolts
-* 11 mm holes+ * 11 mm holes
-* 8 mm forward of strut centerline+ * 8 mm forward of strut centerline
-* 60 mm front-to-rear spacing+ * 60 mm front-to-rear spacing
-* 656 mm left-to-right+ * 656 mm left-to-right
-* 405 mm from rear bolt to Front core support mounting hole+ * 405 mm from rear bolt to Front core support mounting hole
-Strut Tower to Strut Tower centers+ Strut Tower to Strut Tower centers
-* 936 mm width+ * 936 mm width
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=22877 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/22877.jpg]+{{Album|22877}} {{Album|23748}}
= Rear Crossmember = = Rear Crossmember =
-See main article: [[Gearbox Mount]]+The '''transmission''' crossmember (gearbox crossmember) is called by Datsun the '''rear engine mounting member'''.
-The '''transmission''' crossmember (gearbox crossmember) is also called the rear engine crossmember.+ See Main Article: [[Gearbox Mount]]
-* 11322-H1002 MEMBER-engine mounting, rear+
-[[Category:Engine Removal And Installation]]+[[Category:Engine Removal And Installation]]{{End}}

Revision as of 05:32, 8 January 2018

The engine-mounting cross-member is what Datsun calls the "front suspension member", also known as x-member (X for cross).

Also See: Engine Mounts (for rubber insulators and engine brackets)

Contents

Front Crossmember

1970-1973 1200 Crossmember (two high towers)
1200_crossmember.jpg

1973-1994 1200 Crossmember (short + high towers)
20196.jpgAlbum 20196 20197.jpgAlbum 20197

Rear: Late 1200 crossmember (one short tower, one high tower)
Front: Early 1200 crossmember
13676.jpgAlbum 13676

The engine crossmember for the Datsun 1200 fits the 1971-1973 A12 engine. The A10 engine from the earlier Datsun 1000 will also bolt in. To fit a newer engine -- a 1974-up A12 or A13, A14 or A15 -- a newer crossmember may be used, or an modified motor mount brackets may be fabricated (see A-series Engine Swaps). The newer crossmember is from the 1974-up Datsun 1200 truck. Note that B210 or other crossmembers do not fit the 1200.

For engine types other than A-series, see: Engine Swaps

Early A12 vs. Late A12 ute (suitable for 1974-up A12, A13, A14 or A15)
8487.jpgAlbum 8487

Modified -- newer engine mounts sit further back on right side
14316.jpgAlbum 14316

B110 holes are 656 mm apart, and 60mm from each other
22877.jpgAlbum 22877

PB110 Crossmember

L14-powered B210 uses L-series towers and mid-sump design.

See L/Z/KA/SR_Crossmember

B210 Comparison

120Y vs B110
12432.jpgAlbum 12432
120Y (A12-powered B210) is slighty wider, and of course has late style mounts suitable for late A12 + A14/A15.

North American A13/A14-powered B210 has a mid-sump crossmember, almost exactly identical to the 510 crossmember. See L/Z/KA/SR_Crossmember.

Crossmember Bolting Dimensions
B110  656   mm X 60mm
B210  760.6 mm X 62mm(?) or 80mm(?)

26089.jpgAlbum 26089 26088.jpgAlbum 26088

Installation & Removal

See main article: Changing Crossmember

Engine Swaps

Remove the crossmember uprights/horn (engine mount brackets), then you can weld different horns suitable for your engine choice.

See Engine Swaps

1200 crossmember with horns removed, suitable for swapping most engine types with front-sump oil pan.
7749.jpgAlbum 7749

7750.jpgAlbum 7750

Part Numbers

フロント サスペンシヨン メンバー

54480M
B110 & early B120
* 54401-H3900 MEMBER ASS'Y-front suspension 
  08194-06510 BOLT (4)
  32886-22000 WASHER-body bolt (8)
  08915-14010 WASHER-lock (4)
  08911-54010 NUT (4)
* 54401-H1000 [early part, interchangable with -H3900]
  81-94065-1 BOLT (4)
  32886-22000 WASHER-body bolt (8)
  89-15140-1 WASHER-lock (4)
  89-11540-1 NUT (4)
Late B120
* 54401-G1601 MEMBER ASSY-FRONT SUSPENSION 8504-
  replaced 54401-G1600 MEMBER ASSY-FRONT SUSPENSION 7510-8503

Front Suspension Part Numbers
4921.jpgAlbum 4921

21274.jpgAlbum 21274 25584.jpgAlbum 25584

Measurements

Front engine crossmember bolts
* 11 mm holes
* 8 mm forward of strut centerline
* 60 mm front-to-rear spacing
* 656 mm left-to-right
* 405 mm from rear bolt to Front core support mounting hole
Strut Tower to Strut Tower centers
* 936 mm width

22877.jpgAlbum 22877 23748.jpgAlbum 23748

Rear Crossmember

The transmission crossmember (gearbox crossmember) is called by Datsun the rear engine mounting member.

See Main Article: Gearbox Mount 
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