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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

Engine Mounts

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Category: Engine Mechanical

See also: Crossmember

Contents

Overview

#Insulator | #Brackets
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Rubber Insulators

All of the following insultors are interchangeable — they fit any year 1200.

11223-H1000 INSULATOR-engine mounting, front [8 mm studs] $12.70 USD
11223-H5000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT 7510-8503 [8mm studs] 
11223-G1900 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT 8504- [8mm studs]
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Brackets

B110 (1970-1973)
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Late 1200 (1974-1994) + B210 + B310
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B110 and B120

Which brackets you need depend on the vehicle's crossmember.

Front: 1970-1973 1200 engine tall crossmember (B110/B120)
Rear: 1974-up 1200 tall/short engine crossmember
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Not only does the new-style engine have a lower right-hand mount, but the mounts are further back 35mm (~1-3/8"). These photos shows how far back:
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There are TWO types of right-side brackets:
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  • Top: original style
  • Bottom: new style for revised crossmembers
    • Allows fitment of reduction gear starters
    • Starting with 1978 B210 USA (H8500)
    • All B310 (H8500)
    • Starting with 1985 B120 JDM (G1900)

NOTE: If you mix early engine with late crosmember (or vice-versa) it will require some modifications. In this case see A-series Engine Swaps.

Early Engine Mounting

1970-1973 Datsun 1200 uses bracket that fit the early A12 engine. Note that the left-side bracket is stepped to fit the engine block.
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B110 Insulator
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Late Engine Mounting

1974 and up engines are different, and 1974-up 1200s use a corresponding crossmember
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Engine Mounts dimensions
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High side mount (similar to earlier)
11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 7510-8503
11221-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 8504-
Low side mount (new crossmembers)
11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 7510-8503
* Same part for 74-up B120 (ute), B210 and B310
11222-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 8504-

11221-G1900 RH
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11222-H5001 LH
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1978 Revision

1978 Reduction gear starter modification
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B10 Mounts

As you can see these Datsun 1000 parts are different from newer (B110, etc) mounts.

11223-18001 INSULATOR-engine mounting front
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POST qik1000 used Ford Laser mounts
Custom engine mounts to suit A14/A15. I used new ford laser upper engine mounts, which are significantly larger/stiffer than the originals. This eliminates axle tramp.

1985-1990 BD/BF Mazda 323, KA/KB Ford Laser Rear Engine Mount (spacing varies from B10 mount)
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11121-18000 BRACKET-engine mounting front (R.H.) 
* stepped bracket - looks similar to B110 LH bracket
 11122-18000 BRACKET-engine mounting front (L.H.) 
* flat (unstepped) bracket

RH stepped bracket
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Late Engine Into Datsun 1000

For putting a 1974-up engine into a B10, see Chris's Rip Snorter A12 & Red B10

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B210 Mounts

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11223-H5000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT V [? mm studs]
11223-H7500 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT [except] V [10 mm studs]
11223-H7300 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA 0974- 
* [10 mm studs, A14 engine softer mounts] $30.47 USD
* replaces 11223-H7500
* replaces 11223-H6100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA -0874 
  [? mm studs, A13 engine harder mounts]
11221-H7301 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH
* USA -0777
USA 11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH -0874
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USA 11121-H7300 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0974-1074
USA 11221-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0877-
* Bracket notched for Reduction Gear Starter?
11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH
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Right-side mount comparison:
Middle pair is B110 early, right is B210? (thin), left is B310? (thick)
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B210 crossmember change for 1978 North America
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Crossmember horns are farther apart, requiring new style RH bracket
B310 uses this new spacing

B310 Mounts

The B310 insulators have a metal wrap in case the rubber breaks, the engine won't move too far.
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11223-H9100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH [10 mm studs] $34.38 USD
11224-H9100 INSULATOR ASSY-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT LH $44.32 USD
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B310 insulators have a larger studs and locating pins, but otherwise are the same dimensions as B110 mounts.

11221-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH

Stronger, more rigid than ever - perhaps to reduce NVH (noise, vibration and harshness)
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11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH
* Same as B210 and mid-model B120
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Left and Right together
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Upgraded Insulators

Puck Type

Many favor puck-style insulators, because they are readily available in polyurethane, although OEM-style new rubber makes for less vibration. Either style insulator (stock or puck) can fit stock L-type or A-type mounts.

Universal puck-style mounts, in rubber or polyurethane
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These are the heavy duty engine mounts we were talking about. Broken engine mounts are a common thing in rally cars and this fixes the problem. Mounts are polyurethane and come out of a ford cortina and last for years of competition...Part number MT8156N. Kelpro make them...I usually just go to a good parts place and ask for cortina engine mounts and this is what they give me. Maybe there are two types, these are about 70mm in dia.

Kelpro MT8156N
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quote: you might want to look at the poly-urathene style mounts. I am using some of a Jag. The part number is at home. but they are heaps wider but no tallers, so they make a good direct replacement, plus they are high temp rated.

Maddat Product No - REM1200F Polyurethane Engine Mounts. Suit 1200 Reversed engine X-member (pair). New revised editions have stainless steel plates and increased re-enforcement with a slightly softer compound.
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BRITPART STC434 £2.34
* Land Rover Discovery 1989-1994 V8


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Nissan Revised

CA-style/A10/B310-style has fail-safe sides
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Also see A10 Motor Mount

Tougher B310 insulators have a larger studs and locating pins, but otherwise are the same dimensions as B110 mounts
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NISMO 11220-RS585 RN32 Skyline RB20DE/RB20DET/RB25DE 2WD
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NISMO reinforced competition mounts
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Silvia Type

super-insulated, good for engine swaps

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