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Ernie's Twin-Weber Downdraft

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Ernie "datsa73", who lives in the Seattle area, has a nice Datsun 1200 2-dr sedan with a unique custom-built twin-[[Weber]] downdraft intake system. Ernie "datsa73", who lives in the Seattle area, has a nice Datsun 1200 2-dr sedan with a unique custom-built twin-[[Weber]] downdraft intake system.
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Ernie says: Ernie says:
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8,000 RPM A15 engine: 8,000 RPM A15 engine:
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= Twin Downdraft Webers = = Twin Downdraft Webers =
Datsa73 welds up aluminum plate to make the manifolds using the original A14/A15 manifold. Datsa73 welds up aluminum plate to make the manifolds using the original A14/A15 manifold.
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2027 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2027.jpg] +* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2027 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/2027.jpg]
** 36/36 Webers ** 36/36 Webers
** This engine runs very well, has a slight lope at idle, but runs smooth at lower rpms. The power comes on harder starting about 3,000 rpm ** This engine runs very well, has a slight lope at idle, but runs smooth at lower rpms. The power comes on harder starting about 3,000 rpm
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At the 1/8 mile drags, Evergreen Speedway in Monroe, WA USA: At the 1/8 mile drags, Evergreen Speedway in Monroe, WA USA:
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16222 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16222.jpg] +* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16222 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/16222.jpg]
** 1/8th mile track @ 9 second (equivalent to a 15.7 second 1/4) ** 1/8th mile track @ 9 second (equivalent to a 15.7 second 1/4)
** Nitrous oxide, approximately 35 HP boost ** Nitrous oxide, approximately 35 HP boost
** Stock Datsun 1200 rear axle (H145 differential) -- never broken ** Stock Datsun 1200 rear axle (H145 differential) -- never broken
**: Later upgraded to B210 rear axle assembly (H150 diff) with Lincoln-locker (welded spider gears) **: Later upgraded to B210 rear axle assembly (H150 diff) with Lincoln-locker (welded spider gears)
-**: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16319 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16319.jpg] +**: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16319 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/16319.jpg]
** Stock 4-speed ** Stock 4-speed
** FIAT tachometer ** FIAT tachometer
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* Weber 36/36 carburetors * Weber 36/36 carburetors
** Jetting: 120 on all bores ** Jetting: 120 on all bores
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<blockquote><hr>After taking it apart I found out that it really didn't need a rebuild. The head was worn out so I rebuilt that. No new parts on the lower end. I ended up putting all the bearings back in as well as my Total Seal Piston Rings. So really my block was only dunked and dingle balled. That was it. The hatch marks in the cylinders were still there from my original build. The machinest told me to just put the thing back together.<hr></blockquote> <blockquote><hr>After taking it apart I found out that it really didn't need a rebuild. The head was worn out so I rebuilt that. No new parts on the lower end. I ended up putting all the bearings back in as well as my Total Seal Piston Rings. So really my block was only dunked and dingle balled. That was it. The hatch marks in the cylinders were still there from my original build. The machinest told me to just put the thing back together.<hr></blockquote>
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18027 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18027.jpg] +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18027 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18027.jpg]
* A15 going back in * A15 going back in
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The unlocked H145 survived years. The locked H150 didn't have a chance: The unlocked H145 survived years. The locked H150 didn't have a chance:
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18424 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18424.jpg] +* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18424 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18424.jpg]
*: Broken axle shaft *: Broken axle shaft
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March 2009. As if a 50-HP Nitrous system is not enough, Ernie has added a Mercedes CLK Kompressor (supercharger) to the A15. The blower is driven off a Ford 5.0 pulley bolted to the crank in front of the existing A15 pulley. With this power boost, Ernie upgraded to an H165 rear axle from Datsun 411. March 2009. As if a 50-HP Nitrous system is not enough, Ernie has added a Mercedes CLK Kompressor (supercharger) to the A15. The blower is driven off a Ford 5.0 pulley bolted to the crank in front of the existing A15 pulley. With this power boost, Ernie upgraded to an H165 rear axle from Datsun 411.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19225 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/19225.jpg]+[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19225 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19225.jpg]
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* Rear axle from Datsun 411 * Rear axle from Datsun 411
** H165 diff ** H165 diff
-**: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18423 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18423.jpg] +**: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18423 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18423.jpg]
* Homebuilt traction bars * Homebuilt traction bars
* Tires Rear: Yokohama A048 R ADVAN 205/60R13 * Tires Rear: Yokohama A048 R ADVAN 205/60R13
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[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/viewcat.php?uid=39 Datsa73's Photo Album] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/viewcat.php?uid=39 Datsa73's Photo Album]
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-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17329 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/17329.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18024 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18024.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18025 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18025.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18026 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18026.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18027 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18027.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18028 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18028.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18423 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18423.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18424 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18424.jpg] +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17329 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/17329.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18024 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18024.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18025 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18025.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18026 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18026.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18027 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18027.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18028 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18028.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18423 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18423.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18424 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18424.jpg]
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19278 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/19278.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19279 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/19279.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19280 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/19280.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19281 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/19281.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19282 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/19282.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19283 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/19283.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19284 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/19284.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19285 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/19285.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19286 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/19286.jpg] +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19278 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19278.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19279 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19279.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19280 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19280.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19281 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19281.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19282 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19282.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19283 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19283.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19284 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19284.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19285 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19285.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19286 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19286.jpg]
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Revision as of 23:01, 2 January 2013

Ernie "datsa73", who lives in the Seattle area, has a nice Datsun 1200 2-dr sedan with a unique custom-built twin-Weber downdraft intake system.

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Ernie says:


I have been wanting this car to go faster so I rebuilt the motor years ago. It wasn't fast enough so I put the dual Webers on it. It went faster but not fast enough. So I installed Nitrous. It went faster but not enough. You can see where this is going...I wanted it to still go faster so I supercharged it. Well, it's faster!!


8,000 RPM A15 engine:

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Features

  • 1973 Datsun 1200 2-door Sedan
  • Datsun A15 Engine
    • Oversized deep dished forged pistons
    • Balanced
    • Ported A15 head with dual heavy springs (for 8,000 RPM capability)
    • Delta Cam
    • Dual Weber Downdrafts,
    • 50hp Shot of Wet Nitrous Oxide
    • Weekend Warrior: street licensed, but only put 4000 miles on it in the last 8 years


Twin Downdraft Webers

Datsa73 welds up aluminum plate to make the manifolds using the original A14/A15 manifold.

  • 2027.jpg
    • 36/36 Webers
    • This engine runs very well, has a slight lope at idle, but runs smooth at lower rpms. The power comes on harder starting about 3,000 rpm


At the 1/8 mile drags, Evergreen Speedway in Monroe, WA USA:

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    • 1/8th mile track @ 9 second (equivalent to a 15.7 second 1/4)
    • Nitrous oxide, approximately 35 HP boost
    • Stock Datsun 1200 rear axle (H145 differential) -- never broken
      Later upgraded to B210 rear axle assembly (H150 diff) with Lincoln-locker (welded spider gears)
      16319.jpg
    • Stock 4-speed
    • FIAT tachometer
    • Stock 1/4" fuel line
    • 278 duration camshaft



I run one NOS and one Fuel nozzle right into the intake between the two carbs.

I have only ran the car on an 1/8th mile track at 9 second... I am running a electric fuel pump that pushes 8-10 pounds of pressure which seems to work fine. The blower is a screw type and it does look like an eaton. Not sure if it really is. You can google them on ebay. They run about $450. It is clutch drive so I installed a switch on the dash.

It seems to run fine. I am still able to run my RPM's up to 8000 on full boost with NOS. The A15 motor is really holding out.


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  • Weber 36/36 carburetors
    • Jetting: 120 on all bores


Ernie rebuilt the A15 "with only 6k miles on it" during the winter of 2008/2009 "about 10 years since it's last rebuild".


After taking it apart I found out that it really didn't need a rebuild. The head was worn out so I rebuilt that. No new parts on the lower end. I ended up putting all the bearings back in as well as my Total Seal Piston Rings. So really my block was only dunked and dingle balled. That was it. The hatch marks in the cylinders were still there from my original build. The machinest told me to just put the thing back together.

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  • A15 going back in

A set of stock wheels and tires (pizza cutters) and I can leave 2 patches of tread for over 60 feet and that's without the Nitrous!


The unlocked H145 survived years. The locked H150 didn't have a chance:

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    Broken axle shaft


Now Supercharged

March 2009. As if a 50-HP Nitrous system is not enough, Ernie has added a Mercedes CLK Kompressor (supercharger) to the A15. The blower is driven off a Ford 5.0 pulley bolted to the crank in front of the existing A15 pulley. With this power boost, Ernie upgraded to an H165 rear axle from Datsun 411.

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I finally got this project done and it only took me a couple of weeks.


Discussion: Supercharged 1200

Super B110

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Videos


Features

  • Mercedes SLK 2.3 Kompressor (twin-screw design)
  • locked (welded) H165 differential
  • Rear axle from Datsun 411
    • H165 diff
      18423.jpg
  • Homebuilt traction bars
  • Tires Rear: Yokohama A048 R ADVAN 205/60R13
  • Tires Front: Federal 185/60R13
  • 10 psi blow-through boost
  • No intercooler, no water injection
  • 50 HP Nitrous shot
  • Stock 1/4" fuel line, 5/16" fuel hoses
  • MSD StreetFire Ignition Box and MSD tachometer adapter
    • Weber 36/36 carburetors
      • Jetting: 140 on all bores (up from 120 pre-supercharged)


Photo Index

Datsa73's Photo Album

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