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-The Nissan L-series engine (as in the 1600/510) is a good swap. Inexpensive, readily available both in USA and Australia, and these are a larger engine family than the [[Nissan A Engine]]. From L13 to L18, they are nearly identical on the outside. The L20B 2-liter engine is a tall-block variation but it still fits in the uncut Datsun 1200 sheetmetal. The [[Z-series Engine Swap|Z-series Engine]] is closely related but has a crossflow cylinder head. +The Nissan L-series engine (as in the 1600/510) is a good swap. Inexpensive, readily available both in USA and Australia, and these are a larger engine family than the [[Nissan A Engine]]. From L13 to L18, they are nearly identical on the outside. The L20B 2-liter engine is a tall-block variation but it still [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=43 will fit under the hood] and without cutting the sheetmetal. The [[Z-series Engine Swap|Z-series Engine]] is closely related but has a crossflow cylinder head.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5883&forum=1 L16], [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6246&forum=1 L18], [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6324&forum=1 L20B]. <br>NOTE: The [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2089&forum=1#2112 L20B] is taller though so not commonly used, but it [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=43 will fit under the hood]. Nissan put the L14 in the Japan-only [[PB110]]. A super-rare racing engine was the [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2849&forum=1 LZ20 twin-cam], fitted to 1200 racing cars.+= Discussions =
 +* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=5883&forum=1 L16]
 +* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6246&forum=1 L18]
 +* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6324&forum=1 L20B]
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=92 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/92.jpg]+ 
-L18 fitted+= Engines =
 +* L13: early Datsun 510 Standard models came with L13. Don't bother to swap this, an A14 is better.
 + 
 +* L14: Nissan put the L14 in the Japan-only [[PB110]].
 +*: However, why bother these days? Nissan didn't have an A14 in 1970, but we do now, and it is much less work to fit.
 +*: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=851 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/851.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1534 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1534.jpg]
 + 
 +* L16: A bit more power than an A15, the L16 is good choice if you obtain one inexpensively.
 +*: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=616 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/616.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8902 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8902.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14134 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/14134.jpg]
 + 
 +* L18 is a big power boost over an A15:
 +*: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=92 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/92.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=291 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/291.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1143 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1143.jpg]
 +LZ20 DOHC engine
 + 
 +* L20B fitted:
 +*: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1262 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1262.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5388 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5388.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8153 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8153.jpg]
 + 
 +* LZ Engine: A super-rare racing engine was the [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2849&forum=1 LZ20 twin-cam], fitted to 1200 racing cars.
 + 
 + See main article: [LZ engine]]
[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=95 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/95.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=95 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/95.jpg]
LZ20 DOHC engine LZ20 DOHC engine
 +
 += Crossmember =
 +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1151 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1151.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1152 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1152.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16922 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16922.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16923 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16923.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16924 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16924.jpg]
= Transmission = = Transmission =
-Transmissions for Z engine and L engine bolt to either engine but the L engine is slanted by about 15 degrees, so it affects the angle the shifter comes out. Note the CA Engines have a different bell pattern so their gearboxes do not fit the L Engine.+Transmissions for Z engine and L engine bolt to either engine but the L engine is slanted by about 10 degrees, so it affects the angle the shifter comes out.
 +* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12613 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/12613.jpg] engine tilt
 +* Note the CA Engines have a different bell pattern so their gearboxes do not fit the L Engine.
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* Datsun 620 pickup circa 1977, USA with L20B engine * Datsun 620 pickup circa 1977, USA with L20B engine
 +
 += Photo Index =
 +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5386 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5386.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5387 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5387.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5388 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5388.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5853 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5853.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5854 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5854.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8153 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8153.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8746 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8746.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8752 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8752.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8902 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8902.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9363 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9363.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9386 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9386.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10332 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10332.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10332 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10332.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11155 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11155.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11156 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11156.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11159 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11159.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11163 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11163.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11165 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11165.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11169 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11169.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11170 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11170.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11209 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11209.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12613 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/12613.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12846 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/12846.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12847 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/12847.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14151 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/14151.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16082 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16082.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16922 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16922.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16923 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16923.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16924 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16924.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17001 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/17001.jpg]
[[Category:Engine Modifications]] [[Category:Engine Modifications]]

Revision as of 04:24, 23 March 2009

The Nissan L-series engine (as in the 1600/510) is a good swap. Inexpensive, readily available both in USA and Australia, and these are a larger engine family than the Nissan A Engine. From L13 to L18, they are nearly identical on the outside. The L20B 2-liter engine is a tall-block variation but it still will fit under the hood and without cutting the sheetmetal. The Z-series Engine is closely related but has a crossflow cylinder head.


Contents

Discussions


Engines

  • L13: early Datsun 510 Standard models came with L13. Don't bother to swap this, an A14 is better.
  • L14: Nissan put the L14 in the Japan-only PB110.
    However, why bother these days? Nissan didn't have an A14 in 1970, but we do now, and it is much less work to fit.
    851.jpg 1534.jpg
  • L16: A bit more power than an A15, the L16 is good choice if you obtain one inexpensively.
    616.jpg 8902.jpg 14134.jpg
  • L18 is a big power boost over an A15:
    92.jpg 291.jpg 1143.jpg

LZ20 DOHC engine

  • L20B fitted:
    1262.jpg 5388.jpg 8153.jpg
  • LZ Engine: A super-rare racing engine was the LZ20 twin-cam, fitted to 1200 racing cars.
See main article: [LZ engine]]

95.jpg LZ20 DOHC engine


Crossmember

1151.jpg 1152.jpg 16922.jpg 16923.jpg 16924.jpg

Transmission

Transmissions for Z engine and L engine bolt to either engine but the L engine is slanted by about 10 degrees, so it affects the angle the shifter comes out.

  • 12613.jpg engine tilt
  • Note the CA Engines have a different bell pattern so their gearboxes do not fit the L Engine.


Using a stubby transmission will line up with the 1200 shifter hole. It is about 5 or 6 inches shorter than the more common L-engine transmissions. These are also called shorty or short-tailed.

  • Stubby is ~26.3 inches -- same length as Datsun 510 automatic transmission


4-speed stubby gearboxes are common:

  • 1968-1973 Datsun 510 ("1600") F4W63


5-speed stubby gearboxes comes from:

  • 1981-1985 R30 Skyline with L24 six-cylinder engine
  • 1977-1979 200SX USA S10 (L-series engine, FS5W63 "smoothcase" dogleg)
  • 1968-1973 PL510 (L-series engine, F4W63 "bottom pan")
  • 720 FS5W71B "ribbed case" used on certain 720 4X4s (long wheelbase?)
    • Z-engined series
    • may have had an L series in 1980 only


Comparo

  • Regular
    • ~31.5 inches overall transmission length
    • transmission extension housing about same length as (front) transmission case
    • From the bottom front of the bell housing to the cross member bolts is ~21-1/2"
  • Stubby
    • ~26.3 inches overall transmission length
    • transmission extension housing about 5" shorter than transmission case


Or use a standard L-engine tranmission. The only bit of cutting wil be 1/2 of the gearstick hole but that can be welded that back in the other side to make the factory rubber shifter gasket fit back in. You can see it here:

  • 2118.jpg
    Comparo: Stubby vs Regular transmission
    Notice the shifter location (top part of picture)


Photo Gallery: L Engine transmission comparison photos at http://forum.ratsun.net/showthread.php?t=2373 Ratsun.net]


L20B Swap

The L20B is a 2-liter four cylinder engine. Not to be confused with the L20 six cylinder. 14151.jpg

  • no holes cut
  • just panel beat the lower corners of the front of the tunnel with a hammer, as the L series is wider
  • modify the engine mounts and make a crossmember
    • 1200 crossmember had the mounts trimmed to an angle simular to that of an 810, then cut the 810 mounts in 1/2 to finish the job and locate the motor lower and improve the mounting angles.
  • 810 oil sump is a near-perfect fit in the 1200, reshape it a little just so it will clear the crossmember, maybe 1/2cm with a hammer
  • fitting the radiator in isn't a problem. you'll need a thermostat-controlled fan in front of the radiator (i.e. on the grill side)


Sources

  • Datsun 810 Australia model with L20B engine
  • Datsun 620 pickup circa 1977, USA with L20B engine


Photo Index

5386.jpg 5387.jpg 5388.jpg 5853.jpg 5854.jpg 8153.jpg 8746.jpg 8752.jpg 8902.jpg 9363.jpg 9386.jpg 10332.jpg 10332.jpg 11155.jpg 11156.jpg 11159.jpg 11163.jpg 11165.jpg 11169.jpg 11170.jpg 11209.jpg 12613.jpg 12846.jpg 12847.jpg 14151.jpg 16082.jpg 16922.jpg 16923.jpg 16924.jpg 17001.jpg