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-L, Z, KA and SR all use the same crossmember mount points. You can use the stock B110 L-series crossmember or an A-series crossmember modified.+L, Z, KA and SR all use the same crossmember mount points. For swapping any of these engines into a 1200, you can use the stock B110 L-series crossmember or an A-series crossmember suitably modified. Or, use the unmodified A-series crossmember with custom engine-side brackets.
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-Or, use the unmodified A-series crossmember with custom engine-side brackets.+
= Stock = = Stock =
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 += L-series Horns =
 +Stock 1200 crossmember with the horns (uprights) removed and Stanza L-series horns fitted. The Stanza horns fit right on. Use a drill for spotwelds and a grinder to remove the horns.
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 +Here is a 1200 crossmember, horns removed and low profile horns fabricated:
 +<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23232 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/23232.jpg]
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 +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=248966#forumpost248966 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=140&uri=http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/10195_49d066ce65c0d.jpg]
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 +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=256985#forumpost256985 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/thumbs/10290_4a24cd569ca9e.jpg]
= Custom Crossmember = = Custom Crossmember =
 +Cut the stock 1200 crossmember uprights, weld flat plates at an engle to it. Drill a hole in each plate and slot them for bolting in the engine mount isolators (rubbers).
 +
You can modify the 1200 crossmember: Have the mounts trimmed to an angle simular to that of a 200B, then cut the 200B mounts in 1/2 to finish the job and locate the motor lower and improve the mounting angles. A 910 Bluebird L20B sump fits almost perfect, reshape it with a hammer a little just so it will clear the 1200 crossmember, maybe 1/2cm. You can modify the 1200 crossmember: Have the mounts trimmed to an angle simular to that of a 200B, then cut the 200B mounts in 1/2 to finish the job and locate the motor lower and improve the mounting angles. A 910 Bluebird L20B sump fits almost perfect, reshape it with a hammer a little just so it will clear the 1200 crossmember, maybe 1/2cm.
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-NOTE: These do not fit a 1200:+ NOTE: These do not fit a 1200:
-* Stanza/510 A10 crossmember+ * Stanza/510 A10 crossmember
-* 120Y B210 crossmember+ * 120Y B210 crossmember
-* 510 crossmember+ * 510 crossmember
[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1151 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1151.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1152 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1152.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16922 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16922.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16923 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16923.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16924 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16924.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1151 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1151.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1152 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1152.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16922 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16922.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16923 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16923.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16924 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16924.jpg]
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= Motor Mount Isolators = = Motor Mount Isolators =
The engine mount Brackets and rubber Isolators you use depends on which crossmember you use. The engine mount Brackets and rubber Isolators you use depends on which crossmember you use.
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 +SR20 and KA24E/KA24DE use this style rubber isolator. Buy at [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1208966,parttype,5552 RockAuto.com]:
 +<br>http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=140&uri=http://www.rockauto.com/info/Anchor/8296.jpg
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 +Comparison: L-series isolator (Datsun 510)
 +<br>http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=140&uri=http://www.rockauto.com/info/BeckArnley/BA1040827-1.jpg
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* 11221-B8000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT LH 0974- * 11221-B8000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT LH 0974-
-620 1973-1974 triple stud type, $5 at RockAuto http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210105,parttype,5552+620 1973-1974 triple stud type, $5 at [RockAuto http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210105,parttype,5552]
<br>http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=240&uri=http://info.rockauto.com/Anchor/2404.jpg <br>http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=240&uri=http://info.rockauto.com/Anchor/2404.jpg
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<br>These look the same as 510 isolators, but are likely a harder rubber. <br>These look the same as 510 isolators, but are likely a harder rubber.
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 += Also See =
 + [[L-series Engine Swap]]
 + [[Z-series Engine Swap]]
 + [[KA Engine Swap]]
 + [[SR engine swap]]

Revision as of 06:22, 25 June 2012

L, Z, KA and SR all use the same crossmember mount points. For swapping any of these engines into a 1200, you can use the stock B110 L-series crossmember or an A-series crossmember suitably modified. Or, use the unmodified A-series crossmember with custom engine-side brackets.

Contents

Stock

Factory crossmember from L14-powered B110:

  • 54401-H2500 MEMBER ASS'Y-cross, front suspension
  • 54401-H2501 MEMBER ASS'Y-cross, front suspension (from '71-7)
    23007.jpg
  • 81-34028-1 BOLT (4)
  • 89-12340-1 NUT (4)
  • 54408-21000 WASHER-plain
  • 54408-U0100 WASHER-plain (from '71-7)
  • 54407-21000 WASHER-plain
  • 11220-A3500 INSULATOR-engine mounting (2)
  • 11230-A3500 BRACKET ASS'Y-engine mounting front (R.H.)
  • 11233-A3500 BRACKET ASS'Y-engine mounting front (L.H.)
  • Uses Datsun 510 Transverse Links
    • 54529-A0800 LINK ASS'Y-transverse, front suspension (R.H.)
    • 54529-U0102 LINK ASS'Y-transverse, front suspension (R.H.)
    • 54530-A0800 LINK ASS'Y-transverse, front suspension (L.H.)
    • 54530-U0102 LINK ASS'Y-transverse, front suspension (L.H.)

7714.jpg

L-series Horns

Stock 1200 crossmember with the horns (uprights) removed and Stanza L-series horns fitted. The Stanza horns fit right on. Use a drill for spotwelds and a grinder to remove the horns.

Here is a 1200 crossmember, horns removed and low profile horns fabricated:
23232.jpg

10195_49d066ce65c0d.jpg

10290_4a24cd569ca9e.jpg

Custom Crossmember

Cut the stock 1200 crossmember uprights, weld flat plates at an engle to it. Drill a hole in each plate and slot them for bolting in the engine mount isolators (rubbers).

You can modify the 1200 crossmember: Have the mounts trimmed to an angle simular to that of a 200B, then cut the 200B mounts in 1/2 to finish the job and locate the motor lower and improve the mounting angles. A 910 Bluebird L20B sump fits almost perfect, reshape it with a hammer a little just so it will clear the 1200 crossmember, maybe 1/2cm.

If using other sumps, you may need to do the following:

  • Remove notch from Datsun 1200 xmember
  • Reshape sump to clear the drag link


NOTE: These do not fit a 1200:
* Stanza/510 A10 crossmember
* 120Y B210 crossmember
* 510 crossmember

1151.jpg 1152.jpg 16922.jpg 16923.jpg 16924.jpg

Motor Mount Isolators

The engine mount Brackets and rubber Isolators you use depends on which crossmember you use.

SR20 and KA24E/KA24DE use this style rubber isolator. Buy at RockAuto.com:
8296.jpg

Comparison: L-series isolator (Datsun 510)
BA1040827-1.jpg


Stock PB110 or 510 type

  • 11220-A3500 INSULATOR-engine mounting (2) $34 USD
  • 11230-A3500 BRACKET ASS'Y-engine mounting front (R.H.) $48 USD
  • 11233-A3500 BRACKET ASS'Y-engine mounting front (L.H.) $48 USD

$14 at RockAuto.com http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1209989,parttype,5552
BA1040827-1.jpg


510 specs (L13 uses a softer LH mount than L16):

  • 11220-21004 INSULATOR LH L13
  • 11220-22000 INSULATOR LH L13, RH ALL
  • 11220-A3500 INSULATOR ENGINE MTG FRONT (2)
    • supercedes 11220-22000


A10 (1978-1981 510) uses double-stud type: $14 at RockAuto.com
2680.jpg


620 with L-series engine:

  • 11220-B7900 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT (2) 1073-0874
    • supercedes 11220-B2000 -0973
  • 11220-B8000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0974-
  • 11221-B8000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT LH 0974-

620 1973-1974 triple stud type, $5 at [RockAuto http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210105,parttype,5552]
2404.jpg

620 1975-1978 single-stud type $3 to $14 at RockAuto.com http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210127,parttype,5552
2533.jpg
These look the same as 510 isolators, but are likely a harder rubber.

Also See

L-series Engine Swap
Z-series Engine Swap
KA Engine Swap
SR engine swap