Quench

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Proper quench in the combustion chamber results in more power, and more efficiency so higher fuel economy. It is less like to pre-detonate and will use less spark advance for the same power. It's a win-win scenerio. Datsun used it in some of the A-series engines.

Overview

Quench traditionally is gained by using closed-chamber wedge heads with flat-top piston.

Wedge head (closed chamber, inline valves)

However in 1977 Datsun came out with a dished-piston design with high quench.

Wedge chamber (left) vs Open Chamber (right)

In 1981, they used an offset dish, so the dish does not interfere with the quench area.

1981-1982 H95 chambers

More quench pad area than H89 head. Chambers are deep-pocket for high-swirl, with shorter valves than other A-series heads.

They say Small Block Chevy gains 1% HP for every 0.01" (0.25 mm) tighter quench (with same CR), and needs less spark advance, so less apt to ping.

Quench Clearance

If you use too thick gasket you lose the quench effect. The quench needs to be 0.75 to 0.50 mm to be effective from what I understand. Of course if you are using dished pistons there's no telling if it will have a proper quench effect.

Measuring clearance

In this example, block had been decked so that piston protrudes 0.006 inch above block. Felpro head gasket is 0.041 inch compressed, so quench clearance is 0.035 inch.

Discussion

David Vizard -- the BMC A-series wizard -- tells a story of a 528 HP blown SBC V8 that was 8.5:1 on pump gas (retail petrol). By adding quench -- reducing block to head clearance to 0.75 mm -- the compression ratio went up to 9.1:1 and now was able to use 2 psi MORE boost for a total of 580 HP. Quench works.

Each .010 inch reduction in quench clearance was worth nearly 2% HP along with a 0.23 increase in compression. The HP increase came about 40% from the quench and 60% from the compression ratio increase. But more importantly, the CR increase did not result in earlier detonation when the quench increased.

Note that the datsun A-series "H89" head has similar combustion chambers to the SBC V8 engine (wedge head).

Chevy High Performance

0.035 piston-to-head clearance with tight piston-to-bore clearance can be had with SBC, although 0.040 or 0.050 is safer with less precise engines. Stock SBC often has a 0.060 clearance. A small bore import engine *might* be safe at 0.030 (0.75 mm) clearance. Maybe even 0.025 would be OK.

Wiseco:

What is minimum piston to head clearance? A. ...Most imports can get by with as little as .030

never add a shim or head gasket to lower compression on a quench head engine. If you have 10:1 with a proper quench and then [use a thicker] .040" gasket to give 9.5:1 and .080" quench, you will create more ping at 9.5:1 than you had at 10:1.

http://racingarticles.com/article_racing-10.html

The [Honda B20] quench distance, or piston to head clearance had been set at .032”, to effectively give us “zero” quench clearance at 9500 rpm, due to rod stretch. .032” caused the pistons to hammer the head pretty hard at 10,000+

http://www.theoldone.com/articles/badtothebone/

Quech/squish/quish/skish is the key. Too much clearance and you get no effect. Too little clearance and at high RPMs the piston rock a bit and will hit the head.

Maximum clearance to obtain a quench effect may be 0.060 inch.

Gaskets

Most A-series head gasket are 1.6 mm thick. Some are 1.2 mm thick.

Nismo metal head gasket which is only 0.020 inch thick (0.50 mm)

3 layers are rivited together