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The stock 1.44:1 rocker arm ratio means that for every 0.100 lift at the camshaft lobe, the valve opens 0.144 inch (less slight flexing of pushrod and rocker arm). The stock 1.44:1 rocker arm ratio means that for every 0.100 lift at the camshaft lobe, the valve opens 0.144 inch (less slight flexing of pushrod and rocker arm).
 +[[Roller rockers|Roller-tipped rocker arms]] can increase horsepower and reduce valvetrain wear. The low friction of the roller bearings & roller tip lessen the side-to-side wear of the valve guides. Higher ratios like the Datsun Competition rocker arms increase this side thrust force, so using roller rockers seems like a good idea.
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 +=== Nismo ===
Datsun Competition/Nismo rocker arms Datsun Competition/Nismo rocker arms
* highlift * highlift
* large diameter mushroom * large diameter mushroom
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-Rockers off the earlier Ford 250 engine have a 1.6:1 ratio and can be resized to fit the datsun rocker shaft. 
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-[[Roller rockers|Roller-tipped rocker arms]] can increase horsepower and reduce valvetrain wear. The low friction of the roller bearings & roller tip lessen the side-to-side wear of the valve guides. Higher ratios like the Datsun Competition rocker arms increase this side thrust force, so using roller rockers seems like a good idea.  
Datsun Competition ([[Parts Sources|Nismo]]) stock-type rockers (1.54:1) and Rocker rollers are available in more extreme ratios than the stock 1.44:1 rocker arm ratio. This means that at maximum opening, the valves open further than with the stockers. Datsun Competition ([[Parts Sources|Nismo]]) stock-type rockers (1.54:1) and Rocker rollers are available in more extreme ratios than the stock 1.44:1 rocker arm ratio. This means that at maximum opening, the valves open further than with the stockers.
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Piston-to-valve static clearance should be between 0.060 inch for a stock-cammed street engine to 0.080 or more for a high-lift cam racing engine. Remember that the valves grows a little bit as they warm up. Clearance is most often adjusted by machining the valve pockets in the piston face a bit deeper. This may also need to be done if you mill the cylinder head. This is usually only a problem with Flat-top [[Pistons|pistons]]. Piston-to-valve static clearance should be between 0.060 inch for a stock-cammed street engine to 0.080 or more for a high-lift cam racing engine. Remember that the valves grows a little bit as they warm up. Clearance is most often adjusted by machining the valve pockets in the piston face a bit deeper. This may also need to be done if you mill the cylinder head. This is usually only a problem with Flat-top [[Pistons|pistons]].
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 +=== Ford 250 ===
 +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=48335#forumpost48335 Quote]: "Ford rockers off the earlier 250's have a 1.6:1 ratio and can be resized to fit the datsun rocker shaft."
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 +[[wikipedia:/Ford_Straight-6_engine#Third_generation|wikipedia]]: "Officially dubbed the '''Thriftpower Six''', this engine line is sometimes referred to as the Falcon Six."
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 +The stock ratio is 1.5. High-ratio 1.6 is available aftermarket, for example from [http://www.classicinlines.com/products.asp?cat=38 Classic Inlines].
== High RPM == == High RPM ==

Revision as of 21:01, 29 February 2016

The Rocker Shaft assembly (including the rocker arms) bolts to the cylinder head. Also see Pushrods and Lifters.

Contents

Overview

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The stock 1.44:1 rocker arm ratio means that for every 0.100 lift at the camshaft lobe, the valve opens 0.144 inch (less slight flexing of pushrod and rocker arm).

Stock Datsun A-series
* 13257-18003 ROCKER-VALVE (4) $16.25 USD
* 13258-18003 ROCKER-VALVE (4) $16.25 USD

Roller-tipped rocker arms can increase horsepower and reduce valvetrain wear. The low friction of the roller bearings & roller tip lessen the side-to-side wear of the valve guides. Higher ratios like the Datsun Competition rocker arms increase this side thrust force, so using roller rockers seems like a good idea.

If the head has been skimmed extensively or the block machined down, see: Rocker geometry

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Parts

 Also see Valvetrain Part Numbers

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ROCKER-VALVE NO.1 (4)
ROCKER-VALVE NO.2 (4)
VALVE ROCKER SHAFT
ROCKER SHAFT EXPANSHION PLUG (2)
SPRING-INSIDE ROCKER SHAFT (4)
BRACKET-ROCKER SHAFT (5)
BOLT-ROCKER SHAFT (5)
08915-43810 WASHER-PLAIN (5)
SCREW-ADJUSTING ROCKER VALVE (8)
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13288-H5000 NUT-ADJUSTING ROCKER VALVE (8) < 13288-18001, 01225-00112 $0.82 USD
* NUT-LOCK ROCKER PIVOT SCREW
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High-Ratio Rocker Arms

The stock 1.44:1 rocker arm ratio means that for every 0.100 lift at the camshaft lobe, the valve opens 0.144 inch (less slight flexing of pushrod and rocker arm).

Roller-tipped rocker arms can increase horsepower and reduce valvetrain wear. The low friction of the roller bearings & roller tip lessen the side-to-side wear of the valve guides. Higher ratios like the Datsun Competition rocker arms increase this side thrust force, so using roller rockers seems like a good idea.

Nismo

Datsun Competition/Nismo rocker arms
* highlift 
* large diameter mushroom

Datsun Competition (Nismo) stock-type rockers (1.54:1) and Rocker rollers are available in more extreme ratios than the stock 1.44:1 rocker arm ratio. This means that at maximum opening, the valves open further than with the stockers.

When using these rockers, there are two things that should be checked before installing:

  • Valve-to-piston clearance - this is in addition to the normal valve stem clearance check (Valve adjustment)
  • Clearance in the valve spring/collet/spring seat area (Spring coil bind) and retainer-to-guide or guide seal clearance

We all know that sometimes even a few thousands of an inch clearance can make all the difference between success and engine damage.

If a high-lift camshaft is being fitted, it is doubly important to check these clearances.

Piston-to-valve static clearance should be between 0.060 inch for a stock-cammed street engine to 0.080 or more for a high-lift cam racing engine. Remember that the valves grows a little bit as they warm up. Clearance is most often adjusted by machining the valve pockets in the piston face a bit deeper. This may also need to be done if you mill the cylinder head. This is usually only a problem with Flat-top pistons.

Ford 250

Quote: "Ford rockers off the earlier 250's have a 1.6:1 ratio and can be resized to fit the datsun rocker shaft."

wikipedia: "Officially dubbed the Thriftpower Six, this engine line is sometimes referred to as the Falcon Six."

The stock ratio is 1.5. High-ratio 1.6 is available aftermarket, for example from Classic Inlines.

High RPM

The only place the little race A series is fragile is in the design and wall thickness of the original rocker shaft. It is a thin wall tube that has plugged ends and allows oil to be fed to the rocker bores. Over time the mounting posts can soften and deform causing the rocker to bind simply because the rocker shaft has become out of round. The extra lift and load of big cams only makes this worse.

When assembling your top end and check that you have zero rocker bind once the posts are torqued up. If there is a problem you might have to use a little loctite on the post bolts and reduce the torque setting on individual bolts to ensure no deformation of the rocker shaft Outside Diameter.

You can machine up some rocker spacers to ensure good oil pressure at the rocker bores. They replace the end float springs in the stock design, and when set up right ensure the centreline of the rocker is directly over the centreline of the valve head (see Rocker geometry).

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This little build tip has been a very cheap and effective solution to a problem that only applies to high-lift high-load high-rpm engines.

Spacers for high-RPM operation
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