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| 08911-14210 NUT-HEX M12X1.25 | 08911-14210 NUT-HEX M12X1.25 | ||
| 08915-24210 WASHER-SPRING LOCK | 08915-24210 WASHER-SPRING LOCK | ||
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| + | Gabriel Guardian (gas charged) | ||
| + | Monro-Matic Plus (gas) | ||
| + | Orca/BOGE | ||
| + | KYB Gas-A-Just | ||
| + | KYB GR2 Gas | ||
| + | |||
| + | Which is best? | ||
| + | |||
| + | Gabriel Guardian (gas shock) PN 81501 fits: | ||
| + | - 1200/B110 1971-1973 Sedan | ||
| + | - 200SX 1976-1984 (solid axle) | ||
| + | - 210/B310 1979-1982 all | ||
| + | - 510 1978-1981 exc. wagon | ||
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| + | MONRO-MATIC Plus (gas) PN 33272: | ||
| + | 74-78 B210 | ||
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| + | Orca/BOGE PN OR-27103x2 is 50/pair at classicgarage.com | ||
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| + | KYB GR-2 Gas Shock: 343140 fits: | ||
| + | 1971-73 Datsun 1200 Sedan | ||
| + | 1976-82 Datsun 200SX all | ||
| + | 1979-82 Datsun 210 all | ||
| + | 1978-81 Datsun 510 exc. wagon | ||
| + | 1974-78 Datsun B210 except coupe | ||
| + | 1978-85 Mazda RX7 all | ||
| + | 1967-74 Toyota Corolla exc. wagon | ||
| + | 1973-74 Toyota Corolla SR5 all | ||
| + | Specifications: | ||
| + | ext. length: 20.75 inches | ||
| + | com. length: 13.39 inches | ||
| + | stroke: 7.36 inches | ||
| + | no dustcover | ||
| + | no rebound stop | ||
| + | comes with bump stop | ||
| + | upper mount: S1 (standard 3/8 inch O.D. stem bayonet mount) | ||
| + | lower mount: E2 (12mm I.D. x 32mm long) | ||
| + | * Eyering with bushing and metal sleeve | ||
| + | Length is measured from center of eyering to shoulder of stem | ||
| + | |||
| + | 200SX and 210 also use KG4764A (Obsolete) use mounting kit C199: | ||
| + | 1980-83 Datsun 200SX all | ||
| + | 1979-82 Datsun 210 all | ||
| + | Specifications: | ||
| + | ext. length: 21.06 inches | ||
| + | com. length: 13.90 inches | ||
| + | stroke: 7.17 inches | ||
| + | no dustcover | ||
| + | comes with rebound stop | ||
| + | comes with bump stop | ||
| + | upper mount: S1 (standard 3/8 inch O.D. stem bayonet mount) | ||
| + | lower mount: E2 (12mm I.D. x 32mm long) | ||
| + | |||
| + | RX7 shocks also come in KYB Gas-A-Just model KG4644A: | ||
| + | 1978-85 Mazda RX7 all | ||
| + | 1987-89 Toyota Van (4 w/d) | ||
| + | Specifications: | ||
| + | ext. length: 21.34 inches | ||
| + | com. length: 13.39 inches | ||
| + | stroke: 7.95 inches | ||
| + | comes with dustcover | ||
| + | comes with rebound stop | ||
| + | no bump stop | ||
| + | upper mount: S1 (standard 3/8 inch O.D. stem bayonet mount) | ||
| + | lower mount: E2 (12mm I.D. x 32mm long) | ||
| == Coupe == | == Coupe == | ||
Revision as of 00:31, 17 January 2012
Datsun 1200 used tradional shock absorbers in the rear suspension (the front used a McPherson strut). Shocks differ between coupe, sedan and wagon (van). Kayaba (KYB) and Tokico are the factory rear shock brands, so they are good. These came in a black tube. Bilstein and KONI are considered the best mass-market shocks, while Boge and KYB are considered a quality shock. Oil shocks are recommended for street use. KONI classic/special is recommended for street and track.
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Coupe Vs Ute
Rear axle mounting and Shocks
Adjustable Shocks
See discussion: Where can you get replacement strut inserts?
KONIs are rebound damping adjustable only, so get the correct damping to start with.
KONI can rebuild most KONI shocks, so if you find a used pair or even worn out part of adjustables, call KONI to see if they can be rebuilt. The new name is "classic" or "Special-D".
KONI are twin-tube, oil filled shocks. All the control of regular gas shocks, but without the extra harsh ride that gas shocks cause.
See KONI web site:
Part Numbers
Sedan
Sedan shocks are similar to Coupe shocks (both have upper threaded bayonet), but sedan shocks are longer and have a bump stop.
- comes with bump stop
- upper mount: S1 (standard 3/8 inch O.D. stem bayonet mount, 16 threads)
- lower mount: E2 (12mm I.D. x 32mm long Eyering with bushing and metal sleeve)
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- Nissan 56210-H1001 SHOCK ABSORBER KIT-rear (order 2) - Sedan TOKICO NLA
- Nissan 56200-H1001 COMP-ABSORBER SHOCK REAR (order 2) - Sedan $57.18
- Nissan 56210-H7926 fits, and is just slightly softer $76.40
- ACDelco 520166 or 88946011 (Sedan, gas charged)
- KYB 442006 oil B110 sedan (from KYB catalog)
- KYB 552003 gas (from KYB catalog: PB110 & B210 while supplies last
- KYB 55476 ? non-gas
- KYB Gas-A-Just KG3798A
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- KYB K6064
- KYB 342003 gas B110 sedan (from KYB catalog)
- One vendor says it fits all 1970-1982 sunny sedan
- Interchange:
- KYB 552003
- SACHS 101 272
- ACDelco AF42878
- ACDelco AX69990
- Nissan 56200-H1001, 56200-H5025, 56210-H1001, 56210-H2801, 56210-H2825, 56210-H5000, 56210-H5025, 56210H5026, 56210H5825, 56210H5826, 56210-H6100, 56210-H6126, 56210-H7900, 56210-H7925, 56210-H7926
- KYB 552003 (B210)
- also 66-70 Corolla except Van
- KYB 442006 oil
- also 66-70 Corolla except Van (Toyota OEM 4853012013, 4853119056, 4853119125)
Shock Kit (2 spacer, 2 washers and 2 locknuts)
- KYB KIT105 Shock (Sleeve) Adapter Kit; Rear Lower
56200-H1001 COMP-ABSORBER SHOCK REAR 56113-09400 WASHER 55240-H1001 BOUND BUMPER A 56124-H1001 BOUND-BUMPER B 56112-09400 BUSH 56123-H1000 SEAT-BOUND BUMPER 56218-H1000 BOLT-SHOCK ABSORBER LOWER MOUNTING 08911-14210 NUT-HEX M12X1.25 08915-24210 WASHER-SPRING LOCK
Gabriel Guardian (gas charged) Monro-Matic Plus (gas) Orca/BOGE KYB Gas-A-Just KYB GR2 Gas
Which is best?
Gabriel Guardian (gas shock) PN 81501 fits: - 1200/B110 1971-1973 Sedan - 200SX 1976-1984 (solid axle) - 210/B310 1979-1982 all - 510 1978-1981 exc. wagon
MONRO-MATIC Plus (gas) PN 33272: 74-78 B210
Orca/BOGE PN OR-27103x2 is 50/pair at classicgarage.com
KYB GR-2 Gas Shock: 343140 fits: 1971-73 Datsun 1200 Sedan 1976-82 Datsun 200SX all 1979-82 Datsun 210 all 1978-81 Datsun 510 exc. wagon 1974-78 Datsun B210 except coupe 1978-85 Mazda RX7 all 1967-74 Toyota Corolla exc. wagon 1973-74 Toyota Corolla SR5 all Specifications: ext. length: 20.75 inches com. length: 13.39 inches stroke: 7.36 inches no dustcover no rebound stop comes with bump stop upper mount: S1 (standard 3/8 inch O.D. stem bayonet mount) lower mount: E2 (12mm I.D. x 32mm long) * Eyering with bushing and metal sleeve Length is measured from center of eyering to shoulder of stem
200SX and 210 also use KG4764A (Obsolete) use mounting kit C199: 1980-83 Datsun 200SX all 1979-82 Datsun 210 all Specifications: ext. length: 21.06 inches com. length: 13.90 inches stroke: 7.17 inches no dustcover comes with rebound stop comes with bump stop upper mount: S1 (standard 3/8 inch O.D. stem bayonet mount) lower mount: E2 (12mm I.D. x 32mm long)
RX7 shocks also come in KYB Gas-A-Just model KG4644A: 1978-85 Mazda RX7 all 1987-89 Toyota Van (4 w/d) Specifications: ext. length: 21.34 inches com. length: 13.39 inches stroke: 7.95 inches comes with dustcover comes with rebound stop no bump stop upper mount: S1 (standard 3/8 inch O.D. stem bayonet mount) lower mount: E2 (12mm I.D. x 32mm long)
Coupe
Coupe shocks are bayoneted on one end, like sedan shock but don't have a bump stop.
- Nissan 56210-H1825 SHOCK ABSORBER KIT-rear (2) - Coupe
- 2011 USA catalog $65 each
- Classic Garage NOS $80/pair
- KYB KG3608 Gas-A-Just
- KYB GR2
- Amazon.com $31 each
- KYB 343143 - Coupe. This fits:
- 1971-73 Datsun 1200 Coupe
- 1974-78 Datsun B210 Coupe
- 1970-74 Toyota Corolla wagon (starting 5/70)
- 1966 Volkswagen Type I (except 1200)
- 1967-70 Volkswagen Type I all FRONT
- 1971-77 Volkswagen Type I (except Super Beetle)
- KONI KO-80-1350 adjustable (750N/1050N)
- KONI 80-2149 externally adjustable
- They are shorter, only 386mm long with 129mm stroke
- The KONIS are about 40% stiffer. KONI KO-80-1349 FRONT adjustable (450N/900N) seems better.
- KONI KO-80-1977 - Coupe
- Tokico 1031
- Gabriel Classic 82020
- Rockauto.com $14/each
Wagon
- Nissan 56210-H1425 SHOCK ABSORBER KIT-rear (2) - Van
- KONI KO-80-1904 - 1200 wagon/van, Toyota Landcruiser
Truck
Physically same as VB110 wagon, but different damping characteristics.
B120 ﾘﾔ ｻｽﾍﾟﾝｼｮﾝ <ｼﾔｼｰ>
ショック アブソーバー 56210-G1025 SHOCK ABSORBER KIT-rear (2) リヤ ショック アブソーバー キット 56210K 56210-G1026 ABSORBER KIT-SHOCK, REAR コクインNO 56210-G1001 トキコ 8504- [Tokico] superseded 56210-G1025 コクイン 56210-G1000 カヤバ -8503 [Kayaba (KYB)]
Interchange: Hyundai, Jeep, Mitsubishi, Nissan
- SACHS 101280
- AL-KO 1436
- BOGE 275509
- KYB 343121 [gas]
- KYB 443066 [oil]
Kayaba KYB oil: 443066 KYB gas: 343121, 553100 * 56210-G1000 * 56210-G1001 * 56210-G1025 * 56210-G1026 * 56210-H1400 * 56210-H1425
Tokico Oil: 2048 Gas: E2048 * 56210-G1025 * 56210-G1026
Specifications
The stock factory damping force specification is:
Measured at 0.3m/s
| model | Sedan | Coupe | Wagon | B120 |
| Stroke mm(in) | 167 (6.57) | 180 (7.09) | 180 (7.09) | 180 (7.09) |
| Max. length mm(in) | 506 (19.9) | 440 (17.3) | 468 (18.4) | 468 (18.43) |
| Rebound kg(lb)N | 58 (128) 569 | 68 (150) 667 | 90 (198) 883 | 93-127 (205-280) |
| Compression kg(lb)N | 38 (83.8) 373 | 45 (99.2) 441 | 45 (99.2) 441 | 32-50 (71-110) |