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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

Shock absorbers

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Category: Rear Axle And Rear Suspension

Datsun 1200 used tradional shock absorbers in the rear suspension (the front used a McPherson strut). Shocks differ between coupe, sedan and wagon (van). Kayaba (KYB) and Tokico are the factory rear shock brands, so they are good. These came in a black tube. Oil shocks are recommended for street use.

Contents

Overview

Shocks differ for Sedan, Coupe, Van and Truck.

Coupe shocks are similar to sedan shocks (both have upper threaded bayonet), but Coupes have smaller piston shaft.

Sedan shocks are stronger and have a bump stop -- they can support the weight of the car under full bounce.


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Van (wagon) and Truck (ute) shocks are identical except for a small difference in rebound specification.

Coupe & Sedan shocks are different in physical measurements and in compression/rebound.

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Mounting Comparo

Also see: Leaf_Springs#Leaf_Mounting

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Bottom mount Nut & Washer
 8mm: Coupe
      08915-13810 WASHER-lock
      08911-13810 NUT
12mm: Sedan,Van,Truck
      08911-14210 NUT
      08915-14210 WASHER-lock
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Top Mount Nut & Washer
 8mm: Coupe (piston threads)
  08911-10810 NUT
  08911-30810 NUT
 10mm: Sedan (piston threads)
  08911-14010 NUT 2 Sedan
  08911-34010 NUT-jam 2 Sedan
 12mm: Van,Truck (bolt)
  08911-14210 NUT
  08915-14210 WASHER-lock

Truck upper mount
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Aftermarket

Bilstein and KONI are considered the best mass-market shocks, while Boge, Tokico and KYB are considered quality brands. KONI classic/special is recommended for street and track.

Adjustable Shocks

See discussion: Where can you get replacement strut inserts?

KONIs are rebound damping adjustable only, so get the correct damping to start with.

KONI can rebuild most KONI shocks, so if you find a used pair or even worn out part of adjustables, call KONI to see if they can be rebuilt. The new name is "classic" or "Special-D".

KONI are twin-tube, oil filled shocks. All the control of regular gas shocks, but without the extra harsh ride that gas shocks cause.

See KONI web site:

Air Shocks

Gabriel Air Jacker 39579 043645307906
Open 501mm
Compressed 305mm
Stud at top
Rubber bush bottom ~16mm hole... use sleeve bush
The shock mount is slightly offset
pictures
 

Part Numbers

Sedan

  • comes with bump stop
  • upper mount: S1 (standard 3/8 inch O.D. stem bayonet mount, 16 threads)
  • lower mount: E2 (12mm I.D. x 32mm long Eyering with bushing and metal sleeve)

Nissan

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  • Nissan 56200-H1001 COMP-ABSORBER SHOCK REAR (order 2) - Sedan $57.18
  • Nissan 56210-H7926 fits, and is just slightly softer $76.40
  • 56210-H1001 SHOCK ABSORBER KIT-rear (order 2) - Sedan TOKICO NLA
56200-H1001 COMP-ABSORBER SHOCK REAR
56113-09400 WASHER
55240-H1001 BOUND BUMPER A
56124-H1001 BOUND-BUMPER B
56112-09400 BUSH
56123-H1000 SEAT-BOUND BUMPER
56218-H1000 BOLT-SHOCK ABSORBER LOWER MOUNTING
08911-14210 NUT-HEX M12X1.25
08915-24210 WASHER-SPRING LOCK

Kayaba

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  • KYB 442006 oil B110 sedan (from KYB catalog)
  • KYB 552003 gas (from KYB catalog: PB110 & B210 while supplies last
  • KYB 55476 ? non-gas
  • KYB Gas-A-Just KG3798A
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  • KYB K6064
  • KYB 342003 gas B110 sedan (from KYB catalog)
    • One vendor says it fits all 1970-1982 sunny sedan
    • Interchange:
      • KYB 552003
      • SACHS 101 272
      • ACDelco AF42878
      • ACDelco AX69990
      • Nissan 56200-H1001, 56200-H5025, 56210-H1001, 56210-H2801, 56210-H2825, 56210-H5000, 56210-H5025, 56210H5026, 56210H5825, 56210H5826, 56210-H6100, 56210-H6126, 56210-H7900, 56210-H7925, 56210-H7926
  • KYB 552003 (B210)
    • also 66-70 Corolla except Van
  • KYB 442006 oil
    • also 66-70 Corolla except Van (Toyota OEM 4853012013, 4853119056, 4853119125)
Shock Kit (2 spacer, 2 washers and 2 locknuts)
* KYB KIT105 Shock (Sleeve) Adapter Kit; Rear Lower
KYB GR-2 Gas Shock: 343140 fits:
1971-73 Datsun 1200 Sedan
1976-82 Datsun 200SX all
1979-82 Datsun 210 all
1978-81 Datsun 510 exc. wagon
1974-78 Datsun B210 except coupe
1978-85 Mazda RX7 all
1967-74 Toyota Corolla exc. wagon
1973-74 Toyota Corolla SR5 all
Specifications:
ext. length: 20.75 inches
com. length: 13.39 inches
stroke: 7.36 inches
no dustcover
no rebound stop
comes with bump stop
upper mount: S1 (standard 3/8 inch O.D. stem bayonet mount)
lower mount: E2 (12mm I.D. x 32mm long) 
* Eyering with bushing and metal sleeve
Length is measured from center of eyering to shoulder of stem
200SX and 210 also use KG4764A (Obsolete) use mounting kit C199:
1980-83 Datsun 200SX all
1979-82 Datsun 210 all
Specifications:
ext. length: 21.06 inches
com. length: 13.90 inches
stroke: 7.17 inches
no dustcover
comes with rebound stop
comes with bump stop
upper mount: S1 (standard 3/8 inch O.D. stem bayonet mount)
lower mount: E2 (12mm I.D. x 32mm long) 
RX7 shocks also come in KYB Gas-A-Just model KG4644A:
1978-85 Mazda RX7 all
1987-89 Toyota Van (4 w/d)
Specifications:
ext. length: 21.34 inches
com. length: 13.39 inches
stroke: 7.95 inches
comes with dustcover
comes with rebound stop
no bump stop
upper mount: S1 (standard 3/8 inch O.D. stem bayonet mount)
lower mount: E2 (12mm I.D. x 32mm long)

Others

Which is best?

ACDelco (gas charged)
Gabriel Guardian (gas charged)
Monro-Matic Plus (gas)
Orca/BOGE
KYB Gas-A-Just
KYB GR2 Gas
ACDelco 520166 or 88946011 (Sedan, gas charged)
Gabriel Guardian (gas shock) PN 81501 fits:
- 1200/B110 1971-1973 Sedan
- 200SX 1976-1984 (solid axle)
- 210/B310 1979-1982 all
- 510 1978-1981 exc. wagon
MONRO-MATIC Plus (gas) PN 33272:
74-78 B210
Orca/BOGE PN OR-27103x2 is 50/pair at http://classicgarage.com

Coupe

Coupe shock has small diameter piston

Nissan 56210-H1825 SHOCK ABSORBER KIT-rear (2) - Coupe
* 2011 USA catalog $65 each
* Classic Garage NOS $80/pair
KYB KG3608 Gas-A-Just
KYB GR2 
* Amazon.com $31 each
KYB 343143 - Coupe. Per KYB interchange, this fits:
* 1971-73 Datsun 1200 Coupe
* 1974-78 Datsun B210 Coupe
* 1970-74 Toyota Corolla wagon (starting 5/70)
* 1966 Volkswagen Type I (except 1200)
* 1967-70 Volkswagen Type I all FRONT
* 1971-77 Volkswagen Type I (except Super Beetle) FRONT
KONI KO-80-1787 FRONT
KONI KO-80-1977 - Coupe (NLA)
Tokico 1031
Gabriel Classic 82020 
* Rockauto.com $14/each

Wagon

  • Nissan 56210-H1425 SHOCK ABSORBER KIT-rear (2) - Van
  • KONI KO-80-1904 - 1200 wagon/van, Toyota Landcruiser
Mini part number 150309
AVO adjustable TA233
Extended length: 316mm
Body: 212mm

Truck

1200 ute (truck) shocks are physically same as VB110 wagon, but with different damping characteristics.

B120  リヤ サスペンション <シヤシー>

ショック アブソーバー
56210-G1025 SHOCK ABSORBER KIT-rear (2) リヤ ショック アブソーバー キット
56210K
56210-G1026 ABSORBER KIT-SHOCK, REAR コクインNO 56210-G1001 トキコ 8504- [Tokico]
superseded 56210-G1025 コクイン 56210-G1000  カヤバ -8503 [Kayaba (KYB)]


Interchange: Hyundai, Jeep, Mitsubishi, Nissan
* SACHS 101280
* AL-KO 1436
* BOGE 275509
* KYB 343121 [gas]
* KYB 443066 [oil]
Kayaba
KYB oil: 443066
KYB gas: 343121, 553100
* 56210-G1000
* 56210-G1001 
* 56210-G1025
* 56210-G1026
* 56210-H1400
* 56210-H1425
Tokico
Oil: 2048
Gas: E2048  
* 56210-G1025 
* 56210-G1026
coxsteve: Last Ute I built we used VW Passat Wagon Koni rear shocks worked a treat

Possible interchange: Volkswagen Type I

* E2 type eye mounts
* 390mm extended, 255mm compressed length
KONI KO-80-1349 adjustable (450N/900N)
* VW FRONT 1955-1967
KONI KO-80-1350 adjustable (750N/1050N)
* VW REAR 1955-1967
* about 40% stiffer (750N vs 450N)
KONI 80-2149 externally adjustable + upper mount
* 386mm long with 129mm stroke
* Top mount: M12 x 34mm
* Bottom mount: M12 x 48mm

Specifications

The stock factory damping force specification is:

Measured at 0.3m/s

modelSedanCoupeWagonB120
Stroke mm(in)167 (6.6)180 (7.1)180 (7.1)180 (7.1)
Max. length mm(in)506 (19.9)440 (17.3)468 (18.4)468 (18.43)
Min. Length mm(in)339 (13.3)260 (10.2)288 (11.3)288 (11.3)
Rebound kg(lb)N58 (128) 56968 (150) 66790 (198) 88393-127 (205-280)
Compression kg(lb)N38 (83.8) 37345 (99.2) 44145 (99.2) 44132-50 (71-110)