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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

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Category: Engine Electrical System

Datsun 1200's A12 engine uses a traditional type of starter motor with a Bendix gear drive. The Aftermarket Bosch starter motor is far better the the orgiinal specification Datsun 1200 starter. The newer Datsun starter by Mitsubishi from B210 or B310 is good too and will fit the Datsun 1200's A12 engine.


Contents

Part Numbers

Nissan Part Numbers

B10 Hitachi (2-brush)

  • 23300-18000 ASS'Y-starter HITACHI 5114-87 B10
  • 23300-18005 ASS'Y-starter HITACHI 5114-87K (ISO threads) B10 interchages with 23300-18000
  • 23300-H0100 ASS'Y-starter HITACHI 5114-87L B10 supercedes 5114 models


B10 Mitsubishi (3-brush)

  • 23300-18010 ASS'Y-starter Mitsubishi MW-V1R B10
  • 23300-18011 ASS'Y-starter Mitsubishi MW-V3R B10 interchanges with MW-V1R
  • 23300-18015 ASS'Y-starter Mitsubishi 206-893 (ISO threads) B10 interchanges with MW models


B110 Hitachi (2-brush)

  • 23300-H0101 ASS'Y-starter Hitachi S114-87M B110 manual transmission
  • 23300-H3900 ASS'Y-starter Hitachi S114-156 B110 automatic transmission


B110 Mitsubishi (4-brush)

  • 23300-18015 ASS'Y-starter Mitsubishi MW-V3R (Same as B10 part number)
  • 23300-18016 ASS'Y-starter Mitsubishi MW-V5R (from 72-5) supercedes MW-V3R type


B210 manual transmission

  • 23300-H0101 ASS'Y-starter Hitachi S114-87M B210 A12 M/T
  • 23300-H5000 ASS'Y-starter Hitachi S114-87P B210 A12 (from 73-6) M/T
  • 23300-H5001 ASS'Y-starter Hitachi S114-160 B210 A12 (from 74-4) M/T (4-brush)

B210 Automatic transmission

  • 23300-H3900 ASS'Y-starter Hitachi S114-156 B210 A12 A/T
  • 23300-H6900 ASS'Y-starter Hitachi S114-156A B210 (from 73-6) A12 A/T
  • 23300-H6901 ASS'Y-starter Hitachi S114-163 B210 (from 74-4) A12 A/T (4-brush)


Interchange

Strict interchange:

  • Manual Transmission
    • 23300-H5000, H5001, H7301 (Hollander 1217)
    • All Sunny 1971-1979 Manual Tranmission
    • (what about 1980-1982?)
    • What about Datsun 1000?
    • Hollander 1395 fits if you swap the drive gear
  • Automatic Transmission
    • Part number?


Upgrade

Reduction Starter

1977 Canada models and 1978-up USA models used an optional Reduction gear starting motor with increase torque for easy starting in sub-zero temperatures. This is also a good upgrade for high-compression engines. On the B210 it requires a different right-side engine mount.

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Details on fitting this to a Datsun 1200 are needed. Can it be done?


PitRoad Reduction Starter

starter-motor.JPG

Pitroad for 1971-1973

For 1974-up utes, cut a bit of the right-side tower like this: b110-menber.JPG

Service

Starter parts breakdown for original (2-brush) Datsun 1200 starter

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  • The brushes can be replaced with a large soldering iron
  • The overrun cluch (drive gear) can easily be replaced

Otherwise, replace with a new, rebuilt or good used unit.

Testing Overrun Clutch

If your starter "whizzes" just after the engine catches, the Overrun clutch is almost for sure bad.

  1. Remove starter from engine
  2. With your fingers, turn the small drive gear.
    • It should smoothly turn one direction
    • It should NOT turn at all the other direction, not even a little bit