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Voltage regulator

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= Part Numbers = = Part Numbers =
-Nissan +== B110 ==
-* PN 23500-N3300 (same as 70-73 240Z, and 68-73 510)+ Male Blade Terminals, six terminal
-** replaced by: 23500-29906 $103 USD (which also replaced 70-72 521 pickup) + Female rectangular connector
 + 12V Negative Ground
 + Nissan
 + 23500-N3300 (same as 70-73 240Z, and 68-73 510)
 + * replaced by: 23500-29906 $103 USD (which also replaced 70-72 521 pickup)
 + * 23500-29901 REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI TL135)
 + * 23500-29902 -0972 <> 23500-29901
 + * 23500-N3300 1072- <> 23500-29902 $84.12
 + * 23500-29911 $75.67
-[http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php?carcode=1208483&parttype=4884 www.rockauto.com]+ Aftermarket
-* AIRTEX 1V1250 $18 USD+ [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/catalog.php?carcode=1208483&parttype=4884 www.rockauto.com]
-* ACDELCO E661 $40+ [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts2/1V1250.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts2/bth_1V1250.jpg]
 + * Standard Motor Products VR121 $30 USD
 + * Airtex/Wells 1V1250 $18 USD
 + * AcDelco E661 (88925052) $40
 + * GP Sorensen 265003 $48 USD
 +=== Interchange ===
 + SMP VR121
 + * 1061462C1, 12303548
 + * 23500-14802, 23500-14814
 + * 23500-16513, 23500-16514
 + * 23500-29901/23500-29902/23500-29903/23500-29905/23500-29906
 + 23500-29910/23500-29911/23500-29912
 + Datsun 1200
 + * 23500-73000
 + * 23500-89900
 + * 2350089904, 2350089910, 2350089911, 2350089914,
 + * 23500-N3300/23500-N3300MP
 + Datsun 1200
 + * 478333C1, 478333C3, 487291C91
 + * E606
 + * GRE524
-[http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductList.aspx?PartType=204&PTSet=A&SearchFor=Alternator%20Voltage%20Regulator partsamerica.com]+ Airtex 1V1250
-* GP Sorensen 265003 $48 USD+ 2350014602, 2350014802, 2350014803, 2350014804, 2350014811, 2350014814, 2350016500
 + 2350016502, 2350016503, 2350016504, 2350016510, 2350016512, 2350016513, 2350016514
 + 2350029900, 2350029901, 2350029902, 2350029903, 2350029904, 2350029905, 2350029906
 + 2350029910, 2350029911, 2350029912, 2350029913, 2350073000, 2350073010, 2350073011
 + 2350086400, 2350089900, 2350089901, 2350089902, 2350089904, 2350089910, 2350089911
 + 23500L0400, 23500L2910, 23500N3300, 88925052, VR728
 +== B210 ==
 + Nissan USA Catalog
 +
 + B210 1974 Round Black Connector with six bullet terminals
 + [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210789,parttype,4884,partGroup,18 RockAuto]
 + * $35.79
 + B210 1975-1977 Rectangular Connector (with round pins)
 + * $57.89
-B110 rectangular connector (with spade terminals)+ B210 1977 Round White connector with six round pins
-* 23500-29901 REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI TL135)+
-* 23500-29902 -0972 replaces 01 +
-* 23500-N3300 1072- replaces 02 $84.12+
-* 23500-29911 $75.67+
-* ACDELCO Part # E661 {#88925052} [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1208483,parttype,4884,partGroup,18 $51.99]+
-* AIRTEX Part # 1V1250 [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1208483,parttype,4884,partGroup,18 $43.79]+
- 
- 
-B210 1974 Round Connector  
-* $35.79 [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210789,parttype,4884,partGroup,18 RockAuto] 
- 
-B210 1975-1977 Rectangular Connector (with round pins)  
-* $57.89  
[[Category:Charging System]] [[Category:Charging System]]
[[Category:Engine Electrical System]] [[Category:Engine Electrical System]]

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The Datsun 1200 Alternator uses an external voltage regulator. This is a precision device with magnetic coils and moving contact points. They generally last about 10 years of normal driving. B110 regulator uses spade terminals, and so is different from B210 which uses round pins. It controls the alternator output to between 13.5-15.0 volts, by rapidly vibrating moving point. Newer regulators are available that are more reliable with solid-state circuits (no moving parts).

Also see: Alternator Wiring.

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Location

The voltage regulator is mounted in the engine compartment, on the left strut tower. It is the rectangular box mounted on front of the strut tower (left strut, right side of photo)

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It is in the same location for coupe and sedan, RHD and LHD.

1974-up 1200 utes have the alternator on the other side of the engine. The regulator may be in a different location.

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Testing

The regulator should keep voltage output of the alternator between 13.5 - 15.0 volts (exact specs vary by temperature, see the Factory service manual. If out of specification, it is possible to adjust the regulator. But it is far easier to replace the regulator.

First: Check the Fuse Box. The 'M' fuse (Meter/Reverse/Regulator) powers the voltage regulator. If this fuse is bad, the alternator will not charge the battery.

To test the Regulator:

  1. Put a voltage meter across the battery terminals
  2. With engine running, at 1200 RPM:
    • Battery fully charged: Voltage must be at least 13.5 volts or battery won't be properly charged
    • Battery low: Voltage must be at least 12.5 @ 1100 RPM with headlights on
    • Voltage must be no higher than 15.0 volts or battery damage may result

If it is too high (over 15.0 volts):

  • Test output at Regulator, from A terminal and Ground terminal.
  • If in spec here, but too high at the battery, there is a wire corrosion problem somewhere. Clean and inspect the wires at battery, cable and wiring harness.
  • If output is too high at regulator, replace or adjust Regulator

If it is too low

  • Test output at Regulator, from A terminal and Ground terminal.
  • If in spec at the regulator, but too low at the battery, there is a wire corrosion problem somewhere. Clean and inspect the wires at battery, cable and wiring harness.
  • If too low at the regulator, peform Regulator Bypass Test


Regulator Bypass Test

  1. With key off, unplug T-connector from the alternator
  2. Insert jumper wire with spade connector to the F terminal in the T-opening.
  3. Place voltage meter across battery terminals
  4. With engine running, touch jumper to A terminal on alternator (+12V).
    • If voltage jumps to 13.5 volt or more, the regulator is bad
    • If voltage is still low, replace or repair the Alternator. Often it just need a $10 brush replacement.

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Also see Alternator Wiring

Voltage

Voltage for a standard lead-acid automative battery depends on temperature. Here are specs for a typical a Datsun regulator:

Temperature, Voltage
14F  14.0-15.5
32F  14.5-15.5
50F  14.8-15.3
68F  14.2-15.2
88F  14.0-15.0
104F 13.9-14.9

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Advanced Battery

If you have an advanced lead-acid battery (AGM, Optima, etc), follow the manufacturer's recommendation on charging voltage. While these batteries can handle a wider range of charging voltages, they will last longer if the voltage is tightly controlled.

For example, Optima recommends this charging for thier AGM batteries:


Optima Yellowtop - Alternator: 13.65 to 15.0 volts, no amperage limit
Optima Bluetop/Redtop - Alternator: 13.3 to 15.0 volts, no amperage limit

Adjustment

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Part Numbers

B110

Male Blade Terminals, six terminal
Female rectangular connector
12V Negative Ground
Nissan 
23500-N3300 (same as 70-73 240Z, and 68-73 510)
* replaced by: 23500-29906 $103 USD (which also replaced 70-72 521 pickup) 
* 23500-29901 REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI TL135)
* 23500-29902 -0972 <> 23500-29901
* 23500-N3300 1072- <> 23500-29902 $84.12
* 23500-29911 $75.67
Aftermarket
www.rockauto.com
bth_1V1250.jpg
* Standard Motor Products VR121 $30 USD
* Airtex/Wells 1V1250 $18 USD
* AcDelco E661 (88925052) $40
* GP Sorensen 265003 $48 USD

Interchange

SMP VR121
* 1061462C1, 12303548
* 23500-14802, 23500-14814
* 23500-16513, 23500-16514
* 23500-29901/23500-29902/23500-29903/23500-29905/23500-29906
  23500-29910/23500-29911/23500-29912
  Datsun 1200
* 23500-73000
* 23500-89900
* 2350089904, 2350089910, 2350089911, 2350089914, 
* 23500-N3300/23500-N3300MP
  Datsun 1200
* 478333C1, 478333C3, 487291C91
* E606
* GRE524
Airtex 1V1250
2350014602, 2350014802, 2350014803, 2350014804, 2350014811, 2350014814, 2350016500
2350016502, 2350016503, 2350016504, 2350016510, 2350016512, 2350016513, 2350016514
2350029900, 2350029901, 2350029902, 2350029903, 2350029904, 2350029905, 2350029906
2350029910, 2350029911, 2350029912, 2350029913, 2350073000, 2350073010, 2350073011
2350086400, 2350089900, 2350089901, 2350089902, 2350089904, 2350089910, 2350089911
23500L0400, 23500L2910, 23500N3300, 88925052, VR728 

B210

Nissan USA Catalog

B210 1974 Round Black Connector with six bullet terminals
RockAuto
* $35.79 
B210 1975-1977 Rectangular Connector (with round pins) 
* $57.89 
B210 1977 Round White connector with six round pins