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Voltage regulator

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The Datsun 1200 Alternator uses an external voltage regulator. This is a precision device with magnetic coils and moving contact points. They generally last about 10 years of normal driving. B110 regulator uses spade terminals, and so is different from B210 which uses round pins. It controls the alternator output to between 13.5-15.0 volts, by rapidly vibrating moving point. Newer regulators are available that are more reliable with solid-state circuits (no moving parts).

Contents

Location

The voltage regulator is mounted in the engine compartment, on the left strut tower. It is the rectangular box mounted on front of the strut tower (left strut, right side of photo)

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It is in the same location for coupe and sedan, RHD and LHD.

1974-up 1200 utes have the alternator on the other side of the engine. The regulator may be in a different location.

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Testing

The regulator should keep voltage output of the alternator between 13.5 - 15.0 volts (exact specs vary by temperature, see the Factory service manual. If out of specification, it is possible to adjust the regulator. But it is far easier to replace the regulator.

First: Check the Fuse Box. The 'M' fuse (Meter/Reverse/Regulator) powers the voltage regulator. If this fuse is bad, the alternator will not charge the battery.

To test the Regulator:

  1. Put a voltage meter across the battery terminals
  2. With engine running, at 1200 RPM:
    • Battery fully charged: Voltage must be at least 13.5 volts or battery won't be properly charged
    • Battery low: Voltage must be at least 12.5 @ 1100 RPM with headlights on
    • Voltage must be no higher than 15.0 volts or battery damage may result

If it is too high (over 15.0 volts):

  • Test output at Regulator, from A terminal and Ground terminal.
  • If in spec here, but too high at the battery, there is a wire corrosion problem somewhere. Clean and inspect the wires at battery, cable and wiring harness.
  • If output is too high at regulator, replace or adjust Regulator

If it is too low

  • Test output at Regulator, from A terminal and Ground terminal.
  • If in spec at the regulator, but too low at the battery, there is a wire corrosion problem somewhere. Clean and inspect the wires at battery, cable and wiring harness.
  • If too low at the regulator, peform Regulator Bypass Test


Regulator Bypass Test

  1. With key off, unplug T-connector from the alternator
  2. Insert jumper wire with spade connector to the F terminal in the T-opening.
  3. Place voltage meter across battery terminals
  4. With engine running, touch jumper to A terminal on alternator (+12V).
    • If voltage jumps to 13.5 volt or more, the regulator is bad
    • If voltage is still low, replace or repair the Alternator. Often it just need a $10 brush replacement.

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Also see Alternator Wiring

Voltage

Voltage for a standard lead-acid automative battery depends on temperature. Here are specs for a typical a Datsun regulator:

Temperature, Voltage
14F  14.0-15.5
32F  14.5-15.5
50F  14.8-15.3
68F  14.2-15.2
88F  14.0-15.0
104F 13.9-14.9

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Advanced Battery

If you have an advanced lead-acid battery (AGM, Optima, etc), follow the manufacturer's recommendation on charging voltage. While these batteries can handle a wider range of charging voltages, they will last longer if the voltage is tightly controlled.

For example, Optima recommends this charging for thier AGM batteries:


Optima Yellowtop - Alternator: 13.65 to 15.0 volts, no amperage limit
Optima Bluetop/Redtop - Alternator: 13.3 to 15.0 volts, no amperage limit

Adjustment

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Wiring

See main article: Alternator Wiring
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Part Numbers

B110

Male Blade Terminals, six terminal
Female rectangular connector
12V Negative Ground
Nissan 
23500-N3300 (same as 70-73 240Z, and 68-73 510)
* replaced by: 23500-29906 $103 USD (which also replaced 70-72 521 pickup) 
* 23500-29901 REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI TL135)
* 23500-29902 -0972 <> 23500-29901
* 23500-N3300 1072- <> 23500-29902 $84.12
* 23500-29911 $75.67
Aftermarket
www.rockauto.com
bth_1V1250.jpg
* Standard Motor Products VR121 $30 USD
* Airtex/Wells 1V1250 $18 USD
* AcDelco E661 (88925052) $40
* GP Sorensen 265003 $48 USD

Interchange

SMP VR121
* 1061462C1, 12303548
* 23500-14802, 23500-14814
* 23500-16513, 23500-16514
* 23500-29901/23500-29902/23500-29903/23500-29905/23500-29906
  23500-29910/23500-29911/23500-29912
  Datsun 1200
* 23500-73000
* 23500-89900
* 2350089904, 2350089910, 2350089911, 2350089914, 
* 23500-N3300/23500-N3300MP
  Datsun 1200
* 478333C1, 478333C3, 487291C91
* E606
* GRE524
Airtex 1V1250
2350014602, 2350014802, 2350014803, 2350014804, 2350014811, 2350014814, 2350016500
2350016502, 2350016503, 2350016504, 2350016510, 2350016512, 2350016513, 2350016514
2350029900, 2350029901, 2350029902, 2350029903, 2350029904, 2350029905, 2350029906
2350029910, 2350029911, 2350029912, 2350029913, 2350073000, 2350073010, 2350073011
2350086400, 2350089900, 2350089901, 2350089902, 2350089904, 2350089910, 2350089911
23500L0400, 23500L2910, 23500N3300, 88925052, VR728 

Types

6-spade terminal Type (for 35A system)
RockAuto 23500-29901/23500-29902, 23500-29911, 23500-N3300
th_VR121.jpg th_VR121_.jpg th_VR121_connector.jpg
6-bullet terminal type (for early 50A system)
RockAuto 23500-N2200/23500-N2201
th_VR148.jpg  th_VR148_.jpg  th_VR148_connector.jpg
6-female pin Type (for late 50A system)
RockAuto 23500-N6001/23500-N6003/23500-N6010/23500-N6011
th_VR146.jpg th_VR146_.jpg th_VR146_connector.jpg
6-male pin Type (for Datsun 620 system)
RockAuto 23500-B8000/23500-B8001/23500-B8003
th_VR159.jpg th_VR159_.jpg th_VR159_connector.jpg

B210

North America

Nissan North America Catalog

USA & CANADA
1974 with A13 0773-0874
23500-29902 REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI TLI
* for 35A alternator Hitachi LT-135/Hitachi LT-135B/Hitachi LT-135C
23500-N2200 REGULATOR-VOLTAGE <> 23500-N2201 REGULATOR-VOLTAGE FOR SERVICE
* for Heavy Duty 50A alternator Hitachi LT-150
  (alternators 23100-P0101 <> 23100-H6200/23100-H6201/23100-H6202/23100-H6203)
1975-1978 with A14 0974-
23500-N6000 REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI TLI
23500-N6001 REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI TLI <> 23500-N6000
* 0275-0876
23500-N6002 REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI TLI <> 23500-N6001
* 0976-1076
23500-N6003 REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI TLI <> 23500-N6002
* 1176-0777

Aftermarket

B210 1974 RockAuto
35A Standard Motor Products VR121 [Spade terminal type]
35A AcDelco E660C [Spade terminal type]
50A Standard Motor Products VR148 $35.79 USD [Bullet terminal type]
* Replaces: 12321668, 23500N2200/23500N2201, E621, GRE763
B210 1975 RockAuto
Beck/Arnley 177-0304 $25
BWD/Niehoff R586 $26
Standard Motor Products VR146 [6-female pin Type]
* replaces: 12322365, E632
  23500-N6001/23500-N6003/23500-N6010/23500-N6011
Standard Motor Products VR526SB
Airtex/Wells 1V1233 [6-female pin Type]
* replaces: 88925128, VR735
  23500-N6000/23500-N6001/23500-N6002/23500-N6003/23500-N6010/23500-N6011
th_1V1233.jpg
AcDelco E674
B210 1977 RockAuto
Airtex/Wells 1V1243 $28 USD [6-male pin type]
* Replaces 12321669, 23500-B8000/23500-B8001/23500-B8003, 88925054, VR737
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AcDelco E662 (88925054) $68 USD [6-male pin type]
Standard Motor Products VR146 [6-female pin type]
BWD/NIEHOFF R586 $26
Beck/Arnley 177-0304 $25

620

Datsun 620 Pickup

North America

Li'l Hustler Datsun Pickup model series 620

Nissan Catalog

USA & CANADA

1972-1973 L16  6-blade rectangular connector
1974      L18  6-bullet round connector
1975-1977 L20B 6-male pin round connector
ELECTRICAL/ELECTRICAL PARTS MOUNTING
23500-29902 0372-0872 L16  REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI)
23500-N3300 0972-0973 L16  REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI) <> 23500-29902
23500-N2200 1073-0874 L18  REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI)
23500-N2201 0974-     L18  REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI) <> 23500-N2200
23500-B8000 0974-1274 L20B REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI)
23500-B8001 0175      L20B REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI) <> 23500-B8000
23500-B8002           L20B REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI) <> 23500-B8001
23500-B8003     -0777 L20B REGULATOR-VOLTAGE (HITACHI) <> 23500-B8002
Alternator Types
0372-0777 ALTERNATOR(HITACHI 35A) 23100-U0100/23100-U0101/23100-U0102 <5> 23100-M0402/23100-M0403
0876- ALTERNATOR(HITACHI 38A)(OP FOR COOLER) 23100-B8001 <4> 23100-B8002
0877- internally regulated LR135 23100-B9800/23100-B9801, 38A 23100-B9805 COOLER.OP+CAMPER(0478-)

Aftermarket

1977 RockAuto
AutoTune PT832 $8
Beck/Arnley 177-0312 [6-male pin type]
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Guaranteed Parts 265010 $24
BWD/Niehoff R586 $26
Airtex/Wells 1V1243 $48 [6-male pin type]
BWD/Niehoff R592 $28
Standard Motor Products VR159 $45 [6-male pin type]
* Replaces 12321669, 23500-B8000/23500-B8001/23500-B8003, E622, GRE765
AcDelco E662 (88925054) $68 [6-pin male type]