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== Main Wiring == == Main Wiring ==
-There are two <b>important</b> main wires:+There are three <b>important</b> main wires:
-* body ground wire. This goes from the engine end of the Negative battery cable to the body. It's bolted down at the horn bolt. Without this weird problems can happen.+* Main ground wire (big battery cable). This bolts to the engine timing cover
-* Red wire at battery '+' terminal. This connects to the Fusible Link ("Main Fuse") about six inches from the battery<blockquote><hr>WARNING: Do not replace fusible link with a solid wire, or you risk burning up the entire wiring system ... If the fuse blows, figure out why before replacing it. Was there a short in the system, or did it simply overheat due to corroded contacts?<hr></blockquote>+* Body ground wire. This goes from the engine end of the Negative battery cable to the body. It's bolted down at the horn bolt. Without this weird problems can happen.
 +* Red wire at battery '+' terminal. This connects to the Fusible Link ("Main Fuse") about six inches from the battery<blockquote><hr>WARNING: Do not replace fusible link with a solid wire, or you risk burning up the entire wiring system ... If the fuse blows, figure out why before replacing it. Was there a short in the system, or did it simply overheat due to corroded contacts?<hr></blockquote>
Use a "FUL 0.5mm2" or better fuse-link. This goes between the battery and the main wiring harness (which also feeds the Alternator output "A" terminal) Use a "FUL 0.5mm2" or better fuse-link. This goes between the battery and the main wiring harness (which also feeds the Alternator output "A" terminal)
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#*: 1200s are nose-heavy, so moving the 28-40 lb battery to the back helps. You need heavy-gauge cable, larger than stock due to the long lenght. Buy a kit with a sealed box, so fumes don't enter car #*: 1200s are nose-heavy, so moving the 28-40 lb battery to the back helps. You need heavy-gauge cable, larger than stock due to the long lenght. Buy a kit with a sealed box, so fumes don't enter car
# Installing a modern new-fangled ground wire "System". There are two opinions:<blockquote>AFRacer:<hr>The grounding wire kits that people are putting on newer cars DO help out, and in many cases add power! I was a nonbeliever at first until I saw them used and they did add power and when I tore apart my 180SX I understood why it would add power. There are LOTS of electrical parts on newer cars, especially with EFI and distributorless ignitions ...<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14347&forum=1 read more]<hr></blockquote><blockquote>ddgonzal:<hr>You've seen the ads where you install many grounds wires all over the car, sometimes using 'gold' connectors. They don't add horsepower. Not even new cars use this. There are advantages: They do make troubleshooting extremly complex wiring (like in a Mercedes with 47 computers) easier. My advice is don't waste your money on this. <p> [edit:] After reading AFRacer's report above, I wonder if the B110 simply needs a better ground wire. The unibody is a large conductor so there is no problem there, but the stock ground wire is 1) kinda small and 2) in a place where corrosion can cause problems. Try using a thicker wire, grounding the battery and engine to the unibody in a better way (use a thick wire and good connections).<hr></blockquote> # Installing a modern new-fangled ground wire "System". There are two opinions:<blockquote>AFRacer:<hr>The grounding wire kits that people are putting on newer cars DO help out, and in many cases add power! I was a nonbeliever at first until I saw them used and they did add power and when I tore apart my 180SX I understood why it would add power. There are LOTS of electrical parts on newer cars, especially with EFI and distributorless ignitions ...<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=14347&forum=1 read more]<hr></blockquote><blockquote>ddgonzal:<hr>You've seen the ads where you install many grounds wires all over the car, sometimes using 'gold' connectors. They don't add horsepower. Not even new cars use this. There are advantages: They do make troubleshooting extremly complex wiring (like in a Mercedes with 47 computers) easier. My advice is don't waste your money on this. <p> [edit:] After reading AFRacer's report above, I wonder if the B110 simply needs a better ground wire. The unibody is a large conductor so there is no problem there, but the stock ground wire is 1) kinda small and 2) in a place where corrosion can cause problems. Try using a thicker wire, grounding the battery and engine to the unibody in a better way (use a thick wire and good connections).<hr></blockquote>
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== Ignition Switch == == Ignition Switch ==

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Datsun 1200 wiring is relatively uncomplicated.

WARNING: Wire colors can vary by year, model and country. Please double-check the wiring in your Datsun 1200 before connecting parts according to this article. You don't want to burn something up! Use a voltmeter or test light to confirm the circuit behavior.


Contents

Wire color codes

BBlack
WWhite
RRed
YYellow
GGreen
LBlue
Wires with two codes: The first letter is the wire color, the second is the stripe color. Example:
BW - Black wire with White stripe


Battery & Main Wiring

Battery has two wires, of course:

  • Positive (+). Stock cable is RED. This connects directly to the starter's large connector. A smaller wire runs bout six inches from the terminal to the Fusible Link. See below.
  • Negative (-, aka earth/ground). Stock cable is BLACK with Yellow stripe. It connects directly to the engine block at the oil pump. The engine end of this cable also has a smaller black wire. This is the main body ground and connects to the body at the Horn bolt


Main Wiring

There are three important main wires:

  • Main ground wire (big battery cable). This bolts to the engine timing cover
  • Body ground wire. This goes from the engine end of the Negative battery cable to the body. It's bolted down at the horn bolt. Without this weird problems can happen.
  • Red wire at battery '+' terminal. This connects to the Fusible Link ("Main Fuse") about six inches from the battery

    WARNING: Do not replace fusible link with a solid wire, or you risk burning up the entire wiring system ... If the fuse blows, figure out why before replacing it. Was there a short in the system, or did it simply overheat due to corroded contacts?

Use a "FUL 0.5mm2" or better fuse-link. This goes between the battery and the main wiring harness (which also feeds the Alternator output "A" terminal)


Improvements

  1. Relocating battery to back of car. Advantages:
    • Make room in engine compartment
    • Balance weight of car
      1200s are nose-heavy, so moving the 28-40 lb battery to the back helps. You need heavy-gauge cable, larger than stock due to the long lenght. Buy a kit with a sealed box, so fumes don't enter car
  2. Installing a modern new-fangled ground wire "System". There are two opinions:
    AFRacer:
    The grounding wire kits that people are putting on newer cars DO help out, and in many cases add power! I was a nonbeliever at first until I saw them used and they did add power and when I tore apart my 180SX I understood why it would add power. There are LOTS of electrical parts on newer cars, especially with EFI and distributorless ignitions ...
    read more
    ddgonzal:
    You've seen the ads where you install many grounds wires all over the car, sometimes using 'gold' connectors. They don't add horsepower. Not even new cars use this. There are advantages: They do make troubleshooting extremly complex wiring (like in a Mercedes with 47 computers) easier. My advice is don't waste your money on this.

    [edit:] After reading AFRacer's report above, I wonder if the B110 simply needs a better ground wire. The unibody is a large conductor so there is no problem there, but the stock ground wire is 1) kinda small and 2) in a place where corrosion can cause problems. Try using a thicker wire, grounding the battery and engine to the unibody in a better way (use a thick wire and good connections).


    </blockquote>

Ignition Switch

The ignition switch bolts to the back of the key cylinder.


4973.jpg Ignition Switch Comparison


Interchange

B310 has a larger-diameter switch with two mounting lugs. B110 is smaller with one mounting lug. I believe the middle one (the one with the wiring harness) is a B210 switch, and looks like it would plug into the B110 harness, but is wired differently. Beware! I think this is the B210 Auto harness, where the BY wire goes through the auto-trans shifter inhibit switch (can only start car when in Nuetral or Park).


The 1971 switch has four spade terminals. The 1972 and newer adds the "Accessory" position and so has five spade terminals.


TIP: On the back of the switch, each contact is marked ('S', 'IG', etc.). Double-check before replacing to ensure they are the same.


B110 & B210 North American Wiring

</tr>
WB (Battery)
BW or IG (ignition/Run)
BW (LW for B210)ACC (Accessory)
1971 switches didn't have ACC position
BY (YB for B210)S (start)
BRR (resistor)

The switch in the picture with the wires has differently colored wires (WR, L, BL, BW, BY). From these colors and position, I think it is the same wiring as the B310 switch, just different colors.


Wiring Connections
Switch internal connections

Offno connections
AccessoryBattery (hot) to ACC
RunBattery (hot) to ACC + IG
StartBattery (hot) to IG + Resistor + Start\*

\*Starting with 1974 automatic models and all newer, ACC is also hot while in the Start position.


Where do the wires go on a stock B110?

</table> \*Automatics became available in 1973 in North America. 5022.jpg Lock Comparison - No ACC position for 1971
(the two wires at the front of the cylinder are for the Warning Buzzer system) Common Problem
Ever had the "sometime it doesn't start until I turn the key back and forth a few times" problem? This occurs because the relatively high current loads of the starter solenoid tend to burn the ignition switch Start contacts after some years. This only gets worse. You might think you could prevent this problem by using a relay. The S wire could go to to a relay, and the relay could go from the Main Fuse to the starter. The problem is if the relay sticks, you won't be able to turn it off with the key. To prevent this, you could use two relays, with the main power fed through a relay connected to the IG terminal of the switch. Then if the starter relay sticks, you could turn key to ACC or OFF to stop it. Easiest just to replace the switch. Which other Datsun (or other brand) cars use the same switch? Click Edit and add to this list.

Alternator & Regulator

Our Datsun B110 used -- as with most 1964-1974 cars -- an alternator with external regulator.

Alternator Connections

switch terminalConnects to ...
IG (ignition/run)This connects to two things:
  • Directly to Ballast Resistor (non-coil side). This is spelled "Resister" in some Nissan publications. If equipped with optional factory tachometer, this circuit goes through tachometer

    <li>To IG circuit of fuse box</ul></td></tr>

S (start)<li>the solenoid on the starter
On automatic cars*, this goes through the "Nuetral Switch".
B (battery/hot)<li>battery + terminal, through the fusible link

<li>Fuse box "B" side <li>Alternator "A" large output wire

<li>Voltage regulator "A" terminal
R (resistor)<li>Coil + terminal <li>Ballast resistor (coil side)
ACC (accessory)<li>Radio (through inline fuse)


Since 1971 didn't get ACC position, 1971 radios connect to fuse box L wire (always hot) <li>Optional heated rear window glass

<li>Note that this circuit does NOT go to the fuse box, as does Bat and IG
</table> Regulator Connections
terminalColorLogical Connections
A (Alternator)WR or W
  • To Battery + terminal through Fusible Link <li>To Regulator "A" terminal (W wire)</td></tr>
  • F (Field)WB<li>To Regulator "F" terminal
    N (neutral point)Y<li>To Regulator "N" terminal <li>To electric choke relay Y wire
    E (Earth/ground)B<li>To body ground <li>To Regulator "E" terminal
    </table>


    How the Alternator Dash Light Works

    The dash lamp is connected to IGN +. The other side goes to the "L" terminal of the external regulator.

    • When the alternator is not putting out current, the "L" terminal is at '-' voltage, so the dash light turns on
    • Once the alternator starts putting out current, the "L" terminal is at + voltage, so the light turns off (both sides of the light are at +)


    Alternator Upgrade

    5088.jpg Alternator Comparison & swap info


    Internal Regulator Alternator

    If you install a newer Datsun alternator with internal-regulator:

    • disconnect the voltage regulator
    • On the B110 regulator harness that goes down to the engine, connect WB wire of connector to WR wire of connector:
    • WR <--> WB
    • 7441.jpg wiring jumper
    • Logically, you are connecting the "L" (Light) of new alternator to "L" (Light) of the wiring harness. Be sure to use the original Datsun 1200 wiring harnesses. Only one jumper wire is needed.


    7440.jpg wiring diagram


    More Swaps

    terminalColorLogical Connections
    A (Alternator)W
  • To Alternator "A" terminal (WR or W)</td></tr>
  • F (Field)WB<li>To Alternator "F" terminal
    N (nuetral point)Y<li>To Alternator "N" terminal <li>To electric choke relay Y wire
    E (Earth)B<li>To body ground <li>To Alternator "E" terminal
    IG (ignition)WL (72: W?)<li>To fuse box "M" terminal (fused through to IG terminal of ignition switch)
    L (Light)WR<li>To dash light "IGN" ('72, '73) or "CHG" (1971)