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= Overview = = Overview =
 +Also see [[Battery Maintenance]] and [[Cable Cleaning]].
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Datsun 1200 stock large battery (big enough for a V8) is good if you want to use the stock hold-down and tray. Otherwise fit a smaller battery. One with half the weight is plenty for the A-series engine. Datsun 1200 stock large battery (big enough for a V8) is good if you want to use the stock hold-down and tray. Otherwise fit a smaller battery. One with half the weight is plenty for the A-series engine.
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In Japan, the 1200s come with a very small battery, (tall, but small). In Japan, the 1200s come with a very small battery, (tall, but small).
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* JDM battery, takes up only a portion of the battery tray. This is powering a street/race A14. * JDM battery, takes up only a portion of the battery tray. This is powering a street/race A14.
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** For batteries 6.75 wide, 8.75 in Tall, 10.87 long (Group 24 size) ** For batteries 6.75 wide, 8.75 in Tall, 10.87 long (Group 24 size)
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Factory J-Hook 24424-H5000 (9.25" 235mm) Factory J-Hook 24424-H5000 (9.25" 235mm)
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Factory Photo Factory Photo
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ddgonzal's 1972 1200 ddgonzal's 1972 1200
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The positive cable is bolted directly to the starter solenoid: The positive cable is bolted directly to the starter solenoid:
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Revision as of 19:51, 15 October 2012

Note that the Battery from most cars interchange with the Datsun 1200 -- even large batteries. The A12 does not need a high-power battery and often a worn battery that can no longer start a V8 will work fine in your 1200 for another year or two. The 1200 can take quite large batteries, although newer very small batteries will save weight thus gaining "free" horsepower. In Japan, 1200s came with very small batteries.

Contents

Overview

Also see Battery Maintenance and Cable Cleaning.

Datsun 1200 stock large battery (big enough for a V8) is good if you want to use the stock hold-down and tray. Otherwise fit a smaller battery. One with half the weight is plenty for the A-series engine.

Gary_P say:

I've been running the Odyssey PC680MJT batteries in both 1200's. One has been in use for a year, the other has been in 2 years. 220 CCA, very small, and 15# [pounds]. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ODY-PC680MJT/

Note that GM batteries with side-mounted terminals won't work unless you change the battery cables to match.


Australia

What size battery was standard for Datsun 1200 in Australia?

Japan

In Japan, the 1200s come with a very small battery, (tall, but small).

16698.jpg

  • JDM battery, takes up only a portion of the battery tray. This is powering a street/race A14.

Type: 38B19L

Dimensions

  • Height: 20.4 mm (7-7/8 inch)
  • Width: 18.8 mm (7-3/8 inch)
  • Depth: 12.8 mm (4-7/8 inch)
  • Weight with acid: 9.7 kg (21.4 pounds)
  • CCA: 274
  • Capacity @ 20 Ah: 33-35
  • Reserve Capacity Minutes: 52


B110

  • Battery: 40B19R
    • Length: 19.7 cm
    • Width: 12.9 cm
    • Height: 20.0 cm
    • modern spec: TH: 222 Capacity 5hrs (Ah) 28 Ah

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  • Tray
    • Length: 20.5 cm
    • Width: 13.5 cm


keywords: バッテリ バッテリートレー

Part Numbers

Also see Battery Part Numbers

B120 8910-

  • 24420-M7000 FRAME-BATTERY FIX $8.29 USD
    • 24420-J0600 F/COLD ZONE $11.15 USD
  • 24422-18001 ROD-BATTERY FIX LONG
  • 24422-G1600 ROD-BATTERY FIX F/50A
  • 24422-H1000 ROD-BATTERY FIX SHORT


Battery 8910-

  • B441M-3B197
  • B441M-3B201
  • B441M-5D237
  • 24428-89900 TRAY-BATTERY -8910
  • 24428-89920 TRAY-BATTERY 8910- $24.61 USD
    • F/COLD ZONE -8910

Body Sheet Metal

See Hoodledge

The battery platform/box/frame is spot-welded to the right hoodledge (inner fender).

Angle: early 1200s
east-west: late 1200s

USA

The best fit is with the Positive terminal on the right side of the battery top.

USA models originally used a large full-size battery (Group 24). With today's better batteries, a much smaller battery is all you need.

  • Group 24: 41 pounds. 6.75 wide, 8.75 in Tall, 10.87 long
  • Group 25: 36 pounds. 6.75 wide, 8.75 in Tall, 9.69 long
  • Group 26: 31 pounds. 6.75 wide, 7.81 in Tall, 8.75 long

A Group 26 battery is a lot lighter and more powerful than the original specification. But it doesn't fit very well using the original hold-down as you can see in this photo:

15362.jpg

Sears Group 26 Battery

Sears Group 24 Battery

All Sears Batteries for Datsun 1200

  • Group 24
    • CCA: 525
    • Reserve Capacity: 90
  • Group 25
    • CCA: 525
    • Reserve Capacity: 85
  • Group 26
    • CCA: 525
    • Reserve Capacity: 80

Reserve Capacity (RC) is the number of minutes a fully charged battery at 80° F (26.7° C) can be discharged at 25 amps until the voltage falls below 10.5 volts. More RC is better in every case. To convert Reserve Capacity to approximate Ampere-Hours, multiple RC by 0.4.


http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ODY-PC680MJT/

  • Odyssey Battery PC680MJT
  • $160
  • 15 pounds
  • 220 CCA
  • Top Post
  • Reserve Capacity 24 minutes
  • Length (in) 7.250 in.
  • Width (in) 3.000 in.
  • Height (in) 6.650 in.


Battery Hold-down

The genuine battery hold-down:

  • 24420-J0600
    • For batteries 6.75 wide, 8.75 in Tall, 10.87 long (Group 24 size)

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Factory J-Hook 24424-H5000 (9.25" 235mm)

Cable Routing

The Negative battery cable (black cable) bolts to the timing cover bolt. It is important to have the engine grounded like this, and not the body -- because the starter uses the most power, the cable needs to go directly to the engine block.

Factory Photo
4969.jpg

ddgonzal's 1972 1200
3517.jpg

The positive cable is bolted directly to the starter solenoid:
15374.jpg