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E15 Electronic Distributor Swap

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= Models = = Models =
== D4R83 == == D4R83 ==
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20215 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/thumbs/20215.jpg]+See [[D4R]] for Hitachi D4R series
-D4R83-30 Shaft+
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20213 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/thumbs/20213.jpg]+== D4A ==
-D4R83-36 Shaft+
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20212 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/thumbs/20212.jpg]+Hitachi D4A series
-D4R83-36 Unit+
-22100-P4000 D4R83-39 5505 +== Mitsubishi T4T ==
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18020 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18020.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18021 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18021.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18022 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18022.jpg] +
-22100-P4000 D4R83-39 4702+For more details see [[T4T]]
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4532 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4532.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4533 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4533.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4534 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4534.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4535 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4535.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4536 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4536.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4537 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4537.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4538 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4538.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4604 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4604.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4605 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4605.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4606 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4606.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4607 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4607.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4608 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4608.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4609 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4609.jpg]+
= Part Numbers = = Part Numbers =

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Obtain an Electronic Ignition distributor from an E15 engine such as from an N12 Nissan Pulsar. Fit a drive gear from an A series distributor, drill a new hole in the shaft, grind, file and drill the housing. Plug it in. Cost is about $65 AUD for a used distributor from the wreckers.

Contents

Sourcing

Obtain an E-series distributor from one of the following engine:

  • E15S (single carburetor)
  • E15I (Injected, central throttle body injection)
  • E16S
  • E16I

This is the same type of Hitachi distibutor used on A12 Sunny Trucks with factory EI, and also used in certain Ford, Mazda and Mitsubishi vehicles. So cap & rotor parts can be purchased in just about any country.

You want to get this type, Hitachi D4R and D4A types:
12193.jpg

Or this type, Mitsubishi T4T(?):
11188.jpg


NOTE: The E15ET turbo and some E16I engines use a different type of distributor than we will consider here. It looks like this, and has none of the familiar guts inside:
174_4c7b4a0d71319.jpg
D4P distributor -- Easily identified as having no vacuum advance unit


You can also use this E15 "Matchbox" type, which was used on a couple of Japan-market E-series models. Use the same gear & mount mods as discussed below, but it is wired differently as per the B310 Electronic Distributor Swap:
14075.jpg

  • B11 JDM 8110-[8608] E15S.(GL,LT).F5
  • N12 JDM 8205-[8610] E15S.5F.(TS,D,FC)


For more details, see E-Series Distributor.

Instructions

  1. remove gear from A-series distributor and fit to the E-series distributor
  2. Modify housing clamp-down
  3. Insert distributor with correct timing. See Distributor Installation
  4. Wire it up and enjoy maintainence free driving (no more yearly points changing)

Gear Changeover

E15 doesn't use a gear, but is otherwise nearly identical to A15 distributor:
4537.jpg


Top one is from converted E15, while lower is from A10/A12.
3948.jpg
The E15 has been converted for A series. Note that it is fractionally longer that the A series when comparing shafts.

Using a 3mm pin punch, remove the roll pin from an A-series distributor. Remove the gear from the shaft. Do the same for the retaining ring on the E-series distributor. Fit the A-series gear onto the E-series distributor shaft. Before drilling a new hole for the roll pin, ensure there is sufficient end float at the top of the gear. (Use a shim or similar when drilling). The clearance required is minimal but is needed to ensure the distributor spins freely. What is the spec for this clearance on the original distributor?

For the adjuster bracket unscrew and remove the plate from the A-series distributor. Install onto the E-series and mark it with a scribe on the original alloy (part of the housing) adjuster bracket.

One method for fixing the adjuster plate is to drill and pin it to the housing. (Use the leftover roll pin) and ensure it sits above the bottom surface of the plate. Alternativly, use a small (3mm) bolt and lock nut to keep the adjuster plate in place, at high revs the roll pin could loosen.

4604.jpg

3955.jpg


Mounting Flange

The E-series distributor has a large cast bracket that won't fit against the A-series block. Simple mod is to stops it fouling on the head.

3955.jpg

The distributor securing bolt on post-1973 A-series engines is in about the 11 o'clock position [when viewed from the side]. If the E-series distributor was bolted straight in, the canister would hit the block, but the pre-1974 block has this bolt in about the 4 o'clock position. This would place the canister facing near to the opposite position, away from the block.

So it depends on whether you have an early or late A12.

Put the stocker A-series flat plate on the E-series distributor:

11188.jpg


Modded Bracket Method


3952.jpg


Hacksaw Method

One way is grind the original bracket part off so it won't foul on the block. Fit a Datsun A-series bracket onto the distributor.


shoom: what I found was that the A15 adjuster plate fitted over the bottom of the [Hitachi] E15 dizzy. funnily enough there is a painted dot on the bottom of the dizzy that exactly matches the location of the original A-series securing bolt. so I just drilled and tapped a hole out and walah, plate fits. I then ground off the original adjustment slot on the body and with a little bit of buffing you cant even tell it was there before.


1. Cut the A15 flat bracket and bolt it like so to the E15 dizzy
18022.jpg

2. Then grind away unneeded parts of the E15 cast bracket
18020.jpg

Finished product:
18021.jpg


Another way to do it:
4605.jpg 4606.jpg 4607.jpg


Custom Bracket Method

Make up a special bracket to mount it

12819.jpg

Austin Method

Beattie used an Austin Mini dizzy clamp on a E15S Mitsubishi type.


beattie: I ground all of the alloy adjuster part off and used the dizzy clamp off a Mini. Fits perfectly around the dizzy shank and lines up perfectly with the hole! Dont ya just love that?

11717.jpg


Installation

Install the new distributor (see Distributor Installation. Use the old adjuster plate as a spacer. This is necessary as the hole on the gear sits higher than the hole on the shaft. Thus drilling a new hole on the shaft means the gear is further down the shaft (The distance between the two holes can be measured to be approximately the same as the thickness of the spacer plate.

The rotation of the body relative to the block will be different from a stock distributor. for example (depending on your mount mod method):

4608.jpg 4609.jpg 11717.jpg

Wiring

A-series wiring colours mentioned are from an A15 (1980 Sunny). Should be the same for A12/A14 models.

  • Black/White wire to POSITIVE coil connector
  • Blue wire to NEGATIVE coil connector.

The original white wire which connects from the negative? side of the coil to the points is not used and can be removed.

The black wire from the tab on the vacuum diaphragm can also be left off. The same applies to the black wire from the positive? side of the coil to the body (via a capacitor) Need to check 120Y diagrams to confirm they are just for noise suppression.

Use the Pulsar coil or a performance coil.

Works with resistor bypassed (shorted). Is this correct as per original Pulsar setup? Confirm with N12? wiring diagram.

Has anyone dynoed the different configurations? Is it reasonable to expect a (slight) increase in power?

beattie

11188.jpg beattie's E15E distributor

  • with Top-weights
  • similar to circa 1983 Mazda 626 GC (AU)
  • Cap is taller than the usual E15

Cap and rotor: The "standard" E15 rotor is the conventional style, same style as the A-series that is. This E15E Distributor has a round item that is fastened to the top plate where the centrifugal weights are and covers them completely. So the cap needs to be taller then the "standard" E15 item!


I don't understand this bit but I'm leaving it in until I clarify it.

Part numbers are

  • CAP-BOSCH GM554
  • ROTOR-BOSCH GM555

20216.jpg

Need to confirm alternate sources for distributor. Mitsubishi 4G15?

Models

D4R83

See D4R for Hitachi D4R series

D4A

Hitachi D4A series


Mitsubishi T4T

For more details see T4T

Part Numbers

For Hitachi D4R Distributor

22162-15M01 CAP ASSY-DISTRIBUTOR
22162-15M02 CAP ASSY-DISTRIBUTOR
22162-15M03 CAP ASSY-DISTRIBUTOR
22162-15M04 CAP ASSY-DISTRIBUTOR
22162-52A01 CAP ASSY-DISTRIBUTOR
** Master Pro 2-4870A 
** BWD C708
** Beck/Arnley 174-6861
** ACDelco E303E
CAP & ROTOR KIT
* Bosch 06089
Fits these USA models
** 1982 Datsun 310 (N10) E15
** 1983 Datsun Pulsar (N12) E16
** 1983-1986 Datsun Pulsar NX (KN13) E16
** 1982-1986 Datsun Sentra (B11) E15S,E16
** 1983-1984 Subaru Brat 1800,1800 Turbo
N10 E15S USA, N12 E16S USA, B11 E15S+E16S
22157-H9560 ROTOR-HEAD 
** Master Pro 2-3774 
** BWD D575
** BWD D680 "Nascar"
Fits:
* 1976 Accord
* 1975-1975 Civic
* Many Datsun. See B-210_Electronic_Distributor_Swap#Rotor
22163-15M00 STATOR [Sheet metal type] 
22115-15M00 SIGNAL ROTO ASSY [Reluctor]
22136-21M00, 22136-D4700 PLATE ASSY-BREAKER
22159-15M00 HARNESS ASSY-DISTRIBUTOR [Wiring]
22108-15M00 SHAFT ASSY [weight & spring shaft]
22020-15M00,22020-15M20 TRANSISTOR IGNITION UNIT 
22109-W0560 WEIGHT-GOVERNOR 79-83 Z/E/CA/A Engine
22132-21M00 CAM SET

Variations

12819.jpg E15 from N12 Pulsar