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Ignition Timing

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= Setting Dwell = = Setting Dwell =
 +If your 1200 still has the factory contact points (if you haven't convereted to [[Electronic Ignition]]) you must set the dwell for perfect tune. To accurately check the contact points '''Dwell''' angle, use a dwell meter. This is far more accurate than simply setting the points-gap.
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From the 1973 [[Factory Service Manual]]: From the 1973 [[Factory Service Manual]]:
* Dwell angle: 49-55 degrees * Dwell angle: 49-55 degrees
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<blockquote><hr>Be sure that the contact surfaces are clean and not burned.<br>The correct gap of 0.018 to 0.022 in (0.45 to 0.55 mm)<br>should be checked with a feeler gauge.<hr></blockquote></td></tr></table> <blockquote><hr>Be sure that the contact surfaces are clean and not burned.<br>The correct gap of 0.018 to 0.022 in (0.45 to 0.55 mm)<br>should be checked with a feeler gauge.<hr></blockquote></td></tr></table>
</blockquote></center>These days we recommend a dwell meter instead of a feeler gauge. The feeler gauge is fine with new points, but inaccurate with used points due to the pitting/cratering that occurs. </blockquote></center>These days we recommend a dwell meter instead of a feeler gauge. The feeler gauge is fine with new points, but inaccurate with used points due to the pitting/cratering that occurs.
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 +Dwell-Tachometer
 +<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20098 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/20098.jpg]
 +<br>Older style (analog) Dwell-Tachometer
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 +# New points are gap-set to 0.018-0.021 inch
 +# Check the dwell
 +# Readjust the gap until it reads 49-55 degrees
 +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20099 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/20099.jpg]
 +<br>NOTE: On this type of scale with only 8- and 6-cylinder, 4-cylinder reading is DOUBLE 8-cylinder scale.
= Setting Timing with Timing Light = = Setting Timing with Timing Light =

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Engine ignition timing (distributor timing) is the foundation of any tune-up. It is generally the first step you need to perform as all other tune-up and carburetor adjustments depend on ignition timing being correct.

If you have the distributor out of the engine, see Installing Distributor.

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General Procedure

  1. Check the gap on the plugs then put them back in. Spec is 0.028-0.032 for the A12. I recommend 0.035 for the smoothest idle.
  2. Set the point-gap or dwell. Use a dwell meter if at all possible as it is much more accurate than the points gap, Set dwell 49 to 55 degrees. If the points are brand new, a feeler gauge can be used to set the gap to 0.018-0.021 in. Incorrect Dwell can cause rough running, as does bad points. For example, it might only run at high idle, and not very smooth at that.
  3. Double-check the timing. Spec is 5 degrees for the US A12 and should be safe for any A12 engine. This must be done after setting the dwell -- because changing the dwell affects the timing, but not vice-versa. 724.JPG
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NOTE: If you use the older pully with 
the newer cover, then you could get 
really weird timing readings

Ignition Timing Specifications

North America

North America
static timing 5 degrees BTDC
point gap (new points) 0.018-0.021 in
dwell (new or used points) 49-55 degrees
Spark plug gap 0.28-0.32 in

Setting Dwell

If your 1200 still has the factory contact points (if you haven't convereted to Electronic Ignition) you must set the dwell for perfect tune. To accurately check the contact points Dwell angle, use a dwell meter. This is far more accurate than simply setting the points-gap.

From the 1973 Factory Service Manual:

  • Dwell angle: 49-55 degrees
  • Point gap: 0.45 to 0.55 mm (18-22 thousands inch)

Same specifications are used for B210s with contact-point ignition as well.


The gap should be checked every 3,000 miles (5k) as part of a [Tune-up].

USA 1972 Owners manual (see page 36 for points-gap details):
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Be sure that the contact surfaces are clean and not burned.
The correct gap of 0.018 to 0.022 in (0.45 to 0.55 mm)
should be checked with a feeler gauge.
These days we recommend a dwell meter instead of a feeler gauge. The feeler gauge is fine with new points, but inaccurate with used points due to the pitting/cratering that occurs.

Dwell-Tachometer
20098.jpg
Older style (analog) Dwell-Tachometer

  1. New points are gap-set to 0.018-0.021 inch
  2. Check the dwell
  3. Readjust the gap until it reads 49-55 degrees

20099.jpg
NOTE: On this type of scale with only 8- and 6-cylinder, 4-cylinder reading is DOUBLE 8-cylinder scale.

Setting Timing with Timing Light

Setting Timing by Hand (for us 'po boys')

If you don't have a timing light ...

Fine-tuning the Timing - Relative Timing Marks

Note the timing marks on the A12 plate.

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Advance and Retard marks

These are NOT used to time the engine (the marks on the crankshaft pulley are). But they are very useful for advancing or retarding the timing a degree or two. After installation, you can look down past the #1 spark plug, between the engine and the distributor to view the marks.

  1. Advance it two degrees (turn distributor clockwise), test drive, repeat until it pings at part throttle
  2. Retard it one degree (turn counter-clockwise) to remove the pinging
Once you have this, you can note the crankshaft timing and next time just set it using a Timing Light.

Advanced Timing

Base timing

Tuning for Power

Dialing in Distributor Spark Curve

Mechanical advance

Vacuum advance

Retarding, for boosted engines

Fully electronic spark timing