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-The Datsun 1200's A12 engine uses a standard type oil pump. The oil should be changed every 3,000 to 5,000 miles. +The Datsun 1200's A12 engine uses a standard gerotor type oil pump. It is self-priming. The oil should be changed every 3,000 to 5,000 miles.
-Also see: Oil pressure indicator lamp: [[Wiring]]+= Overview =
 +{{Photo|m-90a.jpg|Datsun%201200/Parts2}} {{PB2|j451|datsun12001||DSC01672.jpg}}
= Oil Temperature = = Oil Temperature =
-Also See: [[Oil Pump Coolers]] 
- 
- 
The oil temperature is controlled by the engine coolant temperature. As long as the engine coolant ("water") does not overheat, neither will the oil. Only a very few high performance cars have a separate oil cooler. So this means: The oil temperature is controlled by the engine coolant temperature. As long as the engine coolant ("water") does not overheat, neither will the oil. Only a very few high performance cars have a separate oil cooler. So this means:
keep your coolant temp low, and your oil temp will be happy. keep your coolant temp low, and your oil temp will be happy.
Count on the oil temp to be about 20 F degrees hotter. So here is a good street performance equation: Count on the oil temp to be about 20 F degrees hotter. So here is a good street performance equation:
-* [[Thermostat]]: 180 F degrees+ * [[Thermostat]]: 180 F degrees
-* Oil temp will run about 200 F degrees+ * Oil temperature: will run about 200 F degrees
 + 
At this temperature, the good quality regular oil (inexpensive) will perform as good as the expensive synthetics in a street car. It is high temps that ruin regular oil whereas the synthetic oil can take high temps OK. At this temperature, the good quality regular oil (inexpensive) will perform as good as the expensive synthetics in a street car. It is high temps that ruin regular oil whereas the synthetic oil can take high temps OK.
-Now if you are racing or towing there is more to talk about.+Now if you are racing or towing there is more to talk about. See: [[Oil Pump Coolers]].
-= Engine oil capacity =+= Engine Oil Capacity =
-* Oil pan: 2-7/8 U.S. qts., 2-3/8 Imper. qts. (2.7 L)+ See [[Oil_pan#Oil_Capacity|Oil Capacity]]
-* Oil filter: 1-1/8 U.S. pints, 1 Imper. pint. (0.54 L)+
- +
-= Oil Pressure Sender =+
- Nissan part number+
- 25240-89910 SWITCH ASSY-OIL PRESSURE $17 USD+
- See [[Switch Part Numbers]]+
 += Oil Pressure =
From the 1973 [[FSM|factory service manual]]: From the 1973 [[FSM|factory service manual]]:
-* Oil pressure at idle (650 RPM ): 13-17 psi 
-* Regulator valve spring 
-** Free Length: 43.49 mm (1.71 inch) 
-** Pressured Length: 30.3 mm (1.19 inch) 
-* Regulator opening pressure: 54-60 psi 
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19998 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19998.jpg]+ * Oil pressure at idle (650 RPM ): 13-17 psi
 + * Regulator valve spring
 + Free Length: 43.49 mm (1.71 inch)
 + Pressured Length: 30.3 mm (1.19 inch)
 + * Regulator opening pressure: 54-60 psi
- Thread Size - NPT: 1/8" x 28 British Std. Pipe+= Oil Usage =
- (BSPT Tapered)+It is normal to add some oil between the oil changes. Usually a quart every 1,500 miles is OK. A quart every 500 miles indicates either a serious leak, or "oil burning" (bad rings) in the engine.
- Terminal Type: Bullet, Male+
- Operating Pressure - PSI: 3 - 9 psi+
-== Interchange ==+= Oil Pressure Sender =
-The stock Datsun 1200 oil pressure switch fits A-series and some L-series, Z-series, E-series, Diesel and CA-series engines. Also fits certain GM, IHC and Isuzu engines.+{{Main|Oil Pressure Sender}}
-Datsun 1200 sender uses bullet connector.+{{Album!|27746}}
-Buy at [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1208821,parttype,4588 RockAuto.com]+= Oil Guages =
-<br>http://www.rockauto.com/info/at/C2CC0185602614888812.jpg+Oil Temperature or Oil Pressure gauge can be added.
-<br>NOTE: Some other Datsun senders use a spade connector or a screw connector+
- Nissan 25240-89902, 25240-89910+ See Main Article: [[Oil_Pressure_Sender#Mechanical_Oil_Pressure_Gauge|Oil Gauge]]
- GM 94118755, 94312940+
- IHC 478097-C1+
- Isuzu 8-94118-755-0, 8-94312-940-0+
-== For Pressure Gauge ==+= Oil Specifications =
-Other Datsuns came with a pressure gauge, and used this switch:+ See [[Engine Oil Specifications]]
- +
-Buy at [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1210329,parttype,4588 RockAuto.com]+
-<br>http://www.rockauto.com/info/Airtex/1S6571.jpg+
-<br>Datsun 720 Pickup+
- +
- Thread Size 1/8-28 ISO Tapered Thread+
- Switch to close at 3-10 PSI+
- 0-2 PSI - 75 Ohms min+
- 5.5 PSI - 44-60 Ohms+
- 30 PSI - 27-41 Ohms+
- 80 PSI - 7-20 Ohms+
- +
-= Oil Pressure Gauge =+
-The oil pressure switch threads is 1/8 BSPT (british standard pipe tapered). It screws directly into the oil pump housing.+
- +
-If you instead thread a Tee connector, you can fit both the sensor and a separate gauage. Tees are avaialable in the usual auto supply stores such as Repco or Oreillys.+
- +
-Tee fitted to oil pump [Old Method, no longer recommended]+
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5917 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/5917.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=230 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/230.jpg] +
-<br>Right: this engine has the Tee (and an [[Oil Pump Coolers|oil cooler]])+
- +
-New Method+
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=21581 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/21581.jpg] +
- +
-A word of caution with this: they tend to break, perhaps due the weight of the sender at the end of the tee piece and the vibration of the engine. The solution is to use a braided hose from the oil sender hole out to the bodywork, and then mounted the tee with senders in place.+
- +
-<blockquote><hr>Datsun Nationals 2005 .. I think 3 different cars had their brass t-piece fail resulting in oil all over wakefield track. Definitely mount the brass fitting on the bodywork, not the engine.+
- +
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=367890#forumpost367890 dattodude]<hr></blockquote>+
- +
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=15455 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/15455.jpg]+
= Oil Usage = = Oil Usage =
- + See [[Engine Oil Specifications]]
-It is normal to add some oil between the oil changes. Usually a quart every 1,500 miles is OK. A quart every 500 miles indicates either a serious leak, or "oil burning" (bad rings) in the egine.+
- +
-= Oil Specifications =+
-See [[Engine Oil Specifications]]+
= Interchangeability = = Interchangeability =
-All A-series oil pumps are interchangeable except early A10 models. New pumps work with early A10 connection rods.+All A-series oil pumps are interchangeable in any A12/A12A/A13/A14/A15 engine, except the early [[A10 Engine]] oil pump. New pumps will clear the early A10 [[Connecting Rods]].
- +
* connecting rod cap strengthened with 1mm longer bolt boss starting with A10-728641 * connecting rod cap strengthened with 1mm longer bolt boss starting with A10-728641
* Therfore, Oil pump driveshaft decreased 1.5 mm to clear the new cap design * Therfore, Oil pump driveshaft decreased 1.5 mm to clear the new cap design
- 
= Part Numbers = = Part Numbers =
-Also see: [[Oil Filter]]+For a comprehensive lists of Oil Pump parts for the 1200, see [[Oil Pump Part Numbers]].
 +<br>{{Photo|010-01.jpg|Datsun%201200/USA}}
 + Nissan
 + 15010-H9701 ASSY-PUMP OIL WITH OUT OIL FILTER <> 15010-H6200 <> 15010-H1000 $114 USD
 + * Fits A10/A12/A12A/A13/A14/A15
 + * Fits B10/B110/B120/B210/B310/C120 and F10/N10
 + * Filter points down
 + {{Photo|m-90a.jpg|Datsun%201200/Parts2}}
-== USA ==+ 15010-M3001 PUMP ASSY-OIL <> 15010-M3000 $145 USD
- B110 RAW LIST+ * FWD N10 "Datsun 310" "Datsun Pulsar"
- 15010-H9701 ASSY-PUMP OIL WITH OUT OIL FILTER+ * RWD 1200 1989-
- 15010-H6200 ASSY-PUMP OIL WITH OUT OIL FILTER+ * RWD B120, C22, C120
- 15010-H1000 ASSY-PUMP OIL WITH OUT OIL FILTER+
- 15020-H1025 ASSY-SHAFT DRIVE OIL PUMP+
- 15020-H1005 ASSY-SHAFT DRIVE OIL PUMP+
- 15025-18003 GASKET-OIL PUMP+
- 15132-H1000 ASSY-VALVE OIL REGULATOR+
- 08310-53010 SET-BOLT BODY TO COVER+
- 08915-13510 WASHER-SPRING+
- 15066-18000 GASKET-OIL PUMP TO CYLINDER BLOCK+
- 08915-13810 WASHER-LOCK+
- 15036-18000 BOLT-OIL PUMP+
- 08110-85510 BOLT+
- 15050-H1000 ASSY-STRAINER OIL+
- 15053-18000 GASKET-OIL STRAINER+
- 08110-82010 BOLT+
- 08915-13810 WASHER-LOCK+
-== Nissan Competition Parts ==+ Aftermarket [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1208483,parttype,5564 RockAuto]
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5917 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5917.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5927 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/5927.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8004 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8004.jpg]+ Sealed Power 22441908 $39 USD
 + ITM 057140 [http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1209912,parttype,5564 $52 USD]
-LUBRICATION (A-SERIES)+=== Cherry ===
-* 15010-25720 COMPETITION OIL PUMP Generates an oil pressure of over 100psi and does not self prime+ 15010-M0100 <> 15010-M
-* 15010-M0821 COMPETITION OIL PUMP (FWD) Similar to 15010-25720 except unit is designed for FWD Datsuns with A-series engines+ * For FWD E10 "Nissan Cherry" "Datsun Cherry"
-* 11710-H5720 ALTERNATOR BRACKET For use on B210 and 210 models when installing 15010-25720 oil pump+ * Filter points up
-* 15025-25720 GASKET FOR COMPETITION OIL PUMP T= 0.10mm (Yellow)+
-* 15025-25721 GASKET FOR COMPETITION OIL PUMP T=0.12mm (Blue)+
-* 15025-25722 GASKET FOR COMPETITION OIL PUMP T = 0. 1 4mm (Green)+
-* 15010-M0821 DRY SUMP OIL PUMP Similar to 115010-25720 +
-except has additional fittings for dry sump system+
-* 15025-H5720 GASKET FOR DRY SUMP OIL PUMP T = 0. 10mm (Yellow)+
-* 15025-H5721 GASKET FOR DRY SUMP OIL PUMP T = 0. 1 2mm (Blue)+
-* 15025-H5722 GASKET FOR DRY SUMP OIL PUMP T = 0. 14mm (Green)+
-= Hybrid High Volume Pump =+= Strainer =
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6233 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/6233.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6261 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/6261.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10266 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10266.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10267 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10267.jpg] +The oil pump pickup tube has an integrated strainer.
-Use the [[L|L-series engine]] oil pump rotor and stator, which is exactly the same as A-series parts, but longer. This requires a spacer to make up the difference. It also requires modifying the shaft. Use the larger diameter L-series shaft pressed through the rotor and re-pin it for the A-series gear. Run a 1/2" reamer through the A series housing to make the L-shaft fit.+ See main article: [[Oil pan#Pickup Tube]]
-The stock pump works up to 10,000 RPM, so this is not needed for high RPM use.+{{Photo!|15050-18001.jpg}}
-But if you run loose tolerances in a race engine, or you run a cross drilled crank with full circle grooved main bearings, then extra volume may well be just what you need. Also modding the rocker shaft for increased oiling requires more volume. += Nissan Competition Parts =
 + See main article: [[Competition Oil Pump]]
-High-volume is more important than high-pressure because it ensures oiling. The NISMO pump uses high-pressure (100psi) which will also work up to a point, and is far simpler, only requiring shims on the pressure valve. But the better, more expensive option -- if needed -- is the high-volume pump. Most built A-series engines do not need either high-pressure nor high-volume pumps.+= Hybrid High Volume Pump =
- + See main article: [[High Capacity Oil Pump]]
-If your engine is worked hard at high temperatures which results in a measured rise in oil temps, then use an oil cooler to fix the problem. That is much better than simply increasing pressure or volume to compensate.+
-[[Category:Engine Lubrication System]]+[[Category:Engine Lubrication System]]{{End}}

Current revision

The Datsun 1200's A12 engine uses a standard gerotor type oil pump. It is self-priming. The oil should be changed every 3,000 to 5,000 miles.

Contents

Overview

m-90a.jpg DSC01672.jpg

Oil Temperature

The oil temperature is controlled by the engine coolant temperature. As long as the engine coolant ("water") does not overheat, neither will the oil. Only a very few high performance cars have a separate oil cooler. So this means:

keep your coolant temp low, and your oil temp will be happy.

Count on the oil temp to be about 20 F degrees hotter. So here is a good street performance equation:

* Thermostat: 180 F degrees
* Oil temperature: will run about 200 F degrees

At this temperature, the good quality regular oil (inexpensive) will perform as good as the expensive synthetics in a street car. It is high temps that ruin regular oil whereas the synthetic oil can take high temps OK.

Now if you are racing or towing there is more to talk about. See: Oil Pump Coolers.

Engine Oil Capacity

See Oil Capacity 

Oil Pressure

From the 1973 factory service manual:

* Oil pressure at idle (650 RPM ): 13-17 psi
* Regulator valve spring
  Free Length: 43.49 mm (1.71 inch) 
  Pressured Length: 30.3 mm (1.19 inch)
* Regulator opening pressure: 54-60 psi

Oil Usage

It is normal to add some oil between the oil changes. Usually a quart every 1,500 miles is OK. A quart every 500 miles indicates either a serious leak, or "oil burning" (bad rings) in the engine.

Oil Pressure Sender

27746.jpg

Oil Guages

Oil Temperature or Oil Pressure gauge can be added.

See Main Article: Oil Gauge

Oil Specifications

See Engine Oil Specifications

Oil Usage

See Engine Oil Specifications

Interchangeability

All A-series oil pumps are interchangeable in any A12/A12A/A13/A14/A15 engine, except the early A10 Engine oil pump. New pumps will clear the early A10 Connecting Rods.

  • connecting rod cap strengthened with 1mm longer bolt boss starting with A10-728641
  • Therfore, Oil pump driveshaft decreased 1.5 mm to clear the new cap design

Part Numbers

For a comprehensive lists of Oil Pump parts for the 1200, see Oil Pump Part Numbers.
010-01.jpg

Nissan
15010-H9701 ASSY-PUMP OIL WITH OUT OIL FILTER <> 15010-H6200 <> 15010-H1000 $114 USD
* Fits A10/A12/A12A/A13/A14/A15 
* Fits B10/B110/B120/B210/B310/C120 and F10/N10
* Filter points down
  m-90a.jpg
15010-M3001 PUMP ASSY-OIL <> 15010-M3000 $145 USD
* FWD N10 "Datsun 310" "Datsun Pulsar"
* RWD 1200 1989-
* RWD B120, C22, C120
Aftermarket RockAuto
Sealed Power 22441908 $39 USD
ITM 057140 $52 USD

Cherry

15010-M0100 <> 15010-M
* For FWD E10 "Nissan Cherry" "Datsun Cherry"
* Filter points up

Strainer

The oil pump pickup tube has an integrated strainer.

See main article: Oil pan#Pickup Tube

15050-18001.jpg

Nissan Competition Parts

See main article: Competition Oil Pump

Hybrid High Volume Pump

See main article: High Capacity Oil Pump 
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