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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

Strut Insert Part Numbers

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== Stock == == Stock ==
 +See the genuine Nissan part numbers listed above.
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'''418 body length / 631 Extended / 462 Collapsed''' '''418 body length / 631 Extended / 462 Collapsed'''
* Stroke: 169mm (6.7 in) * Stroke: 169mm (6.7 in)
-Stock Nissan B110 inserts. See [[Strut]] 
-== Aftermarket ==+ 
 +== Tokico ==
* TOKICO S1041 (oil), Z1041 (gas) * TOKICO S1041 (oil), Z1041 (gas)
-* Koni 86-1714 (previously 82N-1714, S1003)+ 
-** replaces 56110-H1026+== Kayaba ==
* KYB (Kayaba) 662002/KC1001 (oil) * KYB (Kayaba) 662002/KC1001 (oil)
* KYB 362001 (gas) * KYB 362001 (gas)
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== KONI == == KONI ==
 +* Koni 86-1714 (previously 82N-1714, S1003)
 +** replaces 56110-H1026
* 99996-1714N 1200/FRONT KONI SHOCK ABSORBER * 99996-1714N 1200/FRONT KONI SHOCK ABSORBER
** From the [[1984 Nissan Competition Catalog]] ** From the [[1984 Nissan Competition Catalog]]
-** KONI 86-1714 (previously 82N-1714, S1003) 
 +== VW Jetta ==
 +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6153&forum=1 Jetta inserts] -- information on inserts and adapting Koni inserts for VW Jetta so that they fit a 1200.
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 +'''416 body length/ 599 Extended/ 431 Collapsed,'''
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 +''1200 (B110), 120y (B210)''
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 +Gabriel - G44217
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 +Vera - 62-01015
== VW Golf/Rabbit == == VW Golf/Rabbit ==
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* Yotato Starlet (RWD) * Yotato Starlet (RWD)
* Toyota MR2 MK1 85/86 Rear Insert, 65mm shorter than (120y) B210, KONI 8641 1072sport. * Toyota MR2 MK1 85/86 Rear Insert, 65mm shorter than (120y) B210, KONI 8641 1072sport.
- 
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-== VW Jetta == 
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6153&forum=1 Jetta inserts] -- information on inserts and adapting Koni inserts for VW Jetta so that they fit a 1200. 
- 
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-'''416 body length/ 599 Extended/ 431 Collapsed,''' 
- 
-''1200 (B110), 120y (B210)'' 
- 
-Gabriel - G44217 
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-Vera - 62-01015 
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= 2" OD Strut Inserts = = 2" OD Strut Inserts =

Revision as of 23:06, 8 November 2011

Strut Inserts (shock absorbers) for the front suspension: Datsun 1200 (B110) uses 45 mm diameter strut tubes. Most other Datsuns, including B210, use a larger 2.0 inch (50.8 mm) size. This article will help you choose custom fitment inserts for any strut you may be using.

Contents

Direct Interchange

Original Nissan Part Numbers

  • Datsun 1200s did not come with strut insert cartridges, instead the struts contained had rebuildable shock absorbers (wet shocks).
  • Nissan later offered strut inserts specifically for the 1200, they are still available in USA as of May 2008.

Using a factory-quality Strut rebuild kit (rather than removing the factory strut parts and replacing with a new strut 'cartridge' insert) is the way to retain a smooth front-end ride. However, these kits are no longer manufactured. Using the genuined Nissan cartridge (same as early A12-powered B210s) is just as good.


Insert Cartridge Shock

  • 56105-H5025 CARTRIDGE-ABSORBER,SHOCK, FRONT
    • about $50 each from Nissan


Wet Shocks. The original struts had built-in shock absorbers:

  • 56110-H1025 KIT-ABSORBER SHOCK FRONT (ATSUGI)
  • 56110-H1026 KIT-ABSORBER SHOCK FRONT (TOKICO)

These kits included oil and a rubber thing with valves:

  • 54308-H1025 KIT-PACKING GLAND(ATUGI)
  • 54308-H1026 KIT-PACKING GLAND(TOKICO)
  • 54313-22127 OIL-SUSPENSION STRUT (ATSUGI 360C
  • 54313-22128 OIL-SUSPENSION STRUT (ATSUGI 1000
  • 54313-28525 OIL-SUSPENSION STRUT (TOKICO 360C
  • 54313-22129 OIL-SUSPENSION STRUT (ATSUGI 360C

45mm OD Strut Inserts

Discussion: strut inserts

Stock

See the genuine Nissan part numbers listed above.

418 body length / 631 Extended / 462 Collapsed

  • Stroke: 169mm (6.7 in)


Tokico

  • TOKICO S1041 (oil), Z1041 (gas)

Kayaba

  • KYB (Kayaba) 662002/KC1001 (oil)
  • KYB 362001 (gas)
    • Replaces B110, B120 Jan 1970-May 1973
      Nissan: 54302-H1025,54302-H1026,54302-H1050,54302-H1055,54302-H1125,54302-H1126,54303-H1055,54303-H1125
    • Replaces B210 with A12 Mar 1973-Oct 1977
      Nissan: 54302-H5025,54302-H5050,54302-H5126,54303-H5125,54303-H5150,56105-H5025,56105-H5027,56105-H1026
    • Replaces VB310 with A12 12" wheel models
      54302-H8500,54302-H8525,54302-H8526,54302-H8527

KONI

VW Jetta

Jetta inserts -- information on inserts and adapting Koni inserts for VW Jetta so that they fit a 1200.


416 body length/ 599 Extended/ 431 Collapsed,

1200 (B110), 120y (B210)

Gabriel - G44217

Vera - 62-01015

VW Golf/Rabbit

  • Get Bilstein (1.507 in) or KYB brand at about 1.5 inch outside diameter. Tokico and KONI are too big around to fit 45mm strut housings.
  • Golf Mk I insert is nearly 4 inches shorter than stock and will need a simple spacer made to make up the difference in length in the bottom of the tube.
  • Strut piston diameter is larger than B110, so drill out the strut-nut and the strut top hole.

discussion: VW Rabbit inserts

318 body length / 511 Extended / 352 Collapsed

324 / 511 / 359'

  • Stroke: 158mm (6.25 in)
  • Bilstein part number W0133-1604944


Four different Rabbit Bilsteins available:

  • OE style "Touring
    • F4PNE3033BE / 171412031J USA Made With Internal Threads
  • stiff "Sport"
    • F4P300032M0 / 171412031J USA Made With Internal Threads
  • softer "heavy duty"
  • race: 270/100 for rebound/compression


Bilstein Race & Rallye (gas)

  • Strut Part Number V36-0059 (but just buy the inserts)
  • 270/100 damping
  • Fits:
    • 1974-1984 Golf/Rabbit
    • 1977-1981 Volkswagen Scirocco I 4 cyl 8v
    • 1980-1984 Volkswagen Jetta I 4 cyl 8v
    • 1982-1988 Volkswagen Scirocco II 1.8L 8v
    • 1986-1988 Volkswagen Scirocco II 1.8L 16v


Monroe Sensa-Trac (gas) 72878 / P832

  • Models w/ Internal Threads on Original Strut Housing (U. S. A.)
  • Diameter: 1.5"
  • Stroke: 152mm (6.000 in)
  • Ext len: 511mm (20.125 in)
  • Comp len: 359mm (14.125 in)
  • Body len: 324mm (12.750 in)


Monroe Sensa-Trac (gas) 72826 / 17090011

  • Models w/ External Threads on Original Strut Housing (German)
  • Diameter: 1.5"
  • Stroke: 6.250"
  • Ext len: 20.125"
  • Comp len: 13.875"
  • Body len: 12.500"
  • Piston diameter: 0.75"

Toyota

Get them from TRD

  • Yotato Starlet (RWD)
  • Toyota MR2 MK1 85/86 Rear Insert, 65mm shorter than (120y) B210, KONI 8641 1072sport.

2" OD Strut Inserts

Most Datsun struts use 2 inch (50.8mm) diameter strut tubes. The insert itself will usually be 1-5/8 inch (41.3mm) diameter and thus too big for 45 mm struts, although some are 1.5" (38mm) and so will also fit in 45 mm Struts.


Nissan

  • 56105-N8425 B210
    • superceded 56105-H5925


Aftermarket

  • Monroe Sensa-Trac 73949 $35
    • Compressed Length: 17.875"
    • Extended Length: 24.250"
    • Body Length: 17.375"
    • Travel: 6.375"
  • AC/Delco gas-charged 50335/88945515 $39
  • KYB 364003 GR-2 gas $52
    • 1974-1978 B210
    • 1979-1982 210
    • 1980-1983 200SX
    • 1978-1981 510
  • AutoTek 181 00-167



KONI

  • From the 1984 Nissan Competition Catalog
    • 99996-1912R B210/FRONT KONI SHOCK ABSORBER
      • KONI 86-1912
    • B310 Nissan 99996-2002P 210/FRONT KONI SHOCK ABSORBER
      • KONI 86-2002
    • B310 Nissan 99996-2002T 210/FRONT (SPORT) KONI SHOCK ABSORBER
      • KONI 86-2002

Inserts

356 Body length

1978-1983 280zx TURBO/NON TURBO


364 Body length/ 555 Extended/ 318 Collapsed, Book reference wrong???

R31 6/86-12/90, Pintara

Gabriel G44946/G44972

Koni Red Specials - 86-2361


362 body length/ 559 extended/ 392 collapsed

Z31 (300ZX) 5/84-85

Gabriel - G44936


357 body length/ 531 extended/ 366 collapsed

Z31 (300ZX) 1/86-89

Gabriel - G44968

Tokico Performance Gas - HZ3100


381 Body Length/ 543 Extended/ 398 Collapsed

240/260/280z (S30),Gazelle

from chassis#30-060001 strut tube size is increased inside and outside, some inserts will fit both but leading manufacturers are model specific.


non model specific

Mulholland - 2351501

Gabriel - G44869

Monroe US Made - 86361


up to chassis#30-060000

Koni Red Specials - 86-1811

Tokico HP Series - HZ3015

KYB GR2 Gas - 361002

Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - BZ3015


from chassis#30-060001

Tokico HP Series - HZ3012

KYB GR2 Gas - 361003

Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - BZ3012


403 Body length/ 575 Extended/ 415 Collapsed

200b (810 L24E) 10/77-81, 240K (C110) 73-79, Skyline C210 3/78-80, R30 3/81-86, 200SX 77-79, 1600 (P510) 8/71-73

Gabriel - G44856/G44900

Vera - 62-00976

Koni Red Specials - 86-2224


410mm (415mm if including gland nut) 340mm travel

1600 (P510) 68-8/69, 180b (P610) 72-77

Monroe - MC962,

Gabriel - G44864


437mm Body Length

Stanza/Violet (H510) 77-81, Sunny (B310) 78-81, 200SX 80-83

Monroe - MC949,

Gabriel - G44752

Vera - 62-00570

KYB GR2 Gas - 364003


??????? Not sized yet

1600 (P510) 9/69-7/71

Monroe - MC926

Gabriel - G44865


?????? Not sized yet

280ZX (S130) 78-83, Bluebird 80-83, Maxima (910) 82-84

Tokico Illumina - BZ3038,

Tokico Illumina 5-Way Adjustable - TOBZ3038

Tokico Performance Gas - HZ3038

Gabriel - G44977

KYB GR2 Gas - 365013

Measurements

Strut Housing

  • Outside Diameter: 45mm (1.77 in)
  • Inside Diameter: about 1.5 inch


Nissan 56105-H5025 for Datsun B110

  • Body length: 41.8mm (16-3/8 inch). The seal protrudes 1/8 past this.
  • diameter: main housing - 37.6mm (1.48 in)
  • diameter: upper collar at top of housing - 40.9mm (1.61 in)
  • shaft dia. 17.8mm (1.7 in)
  • thread height - 24mm
  • thread diameter - M10 (10mm hole, 11 mm threads)
  • Overall collapsed - 46.2mm (18-3/16 in.)
  • Overall extended - 63.1mm (24-13/16 in.)
  • Stroke: 16.9mm (6.7 in)


Specifications

Original B110 Strut valving Damping Force @ 0.3m/sec:

  • Expansion kg(lb): 48 (106)
  • Compression kg(lb): 22 (48.5)


Stroke

  • B310 strut valve: 164 mm (6.46 in)
  • B310 cartridge: 161.5
  • B310 cartridge: 160.5 A12A Canada (12" wheels)

Damping rates are same for B310 valve or insert, but stroke differs slightly.


Damping Force

model B110 1970-1973 disc B210 1974-1977 A13/A14 B210 1978 A14 B310 1979 B310 80-82 B310 12"
expansion: kg 48 32-48 28-42 30-40 28-42 38-58
compression: kg 22 20-30 16-24 17-23 16-24 15.5-24.5