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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

Strut Insert Part Numbers

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-== TRD == 
- Toyota TRD 48511-AE941 
- 477 mm extended 
- 342 mm compressed 
- Stroke: 135 mm [compared to 169 mm stock Datsun 1200] 
- damping: 2313/1098N 
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Toyota MR2 MK1 1985-1986 Rear Insert, 65 mm shorter than (120y) B210, KONI 8641 1072sport Toyota MR2 MK1 1985-1986 Rear Insert, 65 mm shorter than (120y) B210, KONI 8641 1072sport
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 + Toyota TRD 48511-AE941
 + 477 mm extended
 + 342 mm compressed
 + Stroke: 135 mm [compared to 169 mm stock Datsun 1200]
 + damping: 2313/1098N
= Measurements = = Measurements =

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Strut Inserts (shock absorbers) for the front suspension: Datsun 1200 (B110) uses 45 mm diameter strut tubes. Most other Datsuns, including B210, use a larger 2.0 inch (50.8 mm) size. This article will help you choose parts for rebuild or replacement.

Contents

Overview

The 1200 front shock absorbers can be rebuilt. Or you can fit strut insert cartridges, such as NOS KYB gas-a-just or the commonly available VW inserts.

Shock Absorber Cartridges for Datsun 1200 struts
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Direct Interchange

Datsun 1200s did not come with strut insert cartridges, instead the struts contained had rebuildable shock absorbers (wet shocks). Later, Nissan offered strut inserts specifically for the 1200, which are still available in USA as of May 2008.

Using a factory-quality Strut rebuild kit (rather than removing the factory strut parts and replacing with a new strut 'cartridge' insert) is the way to retain a smooth front-end ride. However, these kits are no longer manufactured. Using the genuined Nissan cartridge (same as early A12-powered B210s) is just as good.

Inserts

Insert Cartridge Shock
* 56105-H5025 CARTRIDGE-ABSORBER,SHOCK, FRONT
  * superceded 56105-H5025, 56105-H1025
  * about $50 each from Nissan

Original Parts

Wet Shocks. You can add new oil and new strut glands, such as a NOS Koni rebuild kit.

The original struts had built-in shock absorbers:

* 56110-H1025 KIT-ABSORBER SHOCK FRONT (ATSUGI)
* 56110-H1026 KIT-ABSORBER SHOCK FRONT (TOKICO)
These kits included:
* 54308-H1025 KIT-PACKING GLAND(ATUGI)
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* 54308-H1026 KIT-PACKING GLAND(TOKICO)
* 54313-22127 OIL-SUSPENSION STRUT (ATSUGI 360C
* 54313-22128 OIL-SUSPENSION STRUT (ATSUGI 1000
* 54313-28525 OIL-SUSPENSION STRUT (TOKICO 360C
* 54313-22129 OIL-SUSPENSION STRUT (ATSUGI 360C

45mm OD Strut Inserts

Discussion: strut inserts

Monroe shock inserts
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Boge insert cartridges
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Stock

See the genuine Nissan part numbers listed above.

418 body length / 631 Extended / 462 Collapsed

  • Stroke: 169mm (6.7 in)

Nissan Pulsar

1981 Pulsar inserts are the same external size as Datsun 1200 but shorter by 82 mm (3-1/4 in) so if you are after lowering with out banging on the spring mounts this is a easy way to go only 10mm (3/8) shorter in the stroke.

1981 Pulsar vs stock 1200
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Monroe 25-3436 replaces WGC-3436 touring gas cartridge

Tokico

  • TOKICO S1041 (oil), Z1041 (gas)

Tokico inserts
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Kayaba

  • KYB (Kayaba) 662002/KC1001 (oil)
  • KYB 362001 (gas)
    • Replaces B110, B120 Jan 1970-May 1973
      Nissan: 54302-H1025,54302-H1026,54302-H1050,54302-H1055,54302-H1125,54302-H1126,54303-H1055,54303-H1125
    • Replaces B210 with A12 Mar 1973-Oct 1977
      Nissan: 54302-H5025,54302-H5050,54302-H5126,54303-H5125,54303-H5150,56105-H5025,56105-H5027,56105-H1026
    • Replaces VB310 with A12 12" wheel models
      54302-H8500,54302-H8525,54302-H8526,54302-H8527

KYB Gas-filled
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KYB Rally
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KONI

Koni for Datsun 1200
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VW Jetta

Jetta inserts -- information on inserts and adapting Koni inserts for VW Jetta so that they fit a 1200.


416 body length/ 599 Extended/ 431 Collapsed,

1200 (B110), 120y (B210)

Gabriel - G44217

Vera - 62-01015

VW Golf/Rabbit

  • Get Bilstein (1.507 in) or KYB brand at about 1.5 inch outside diameter. Tokico and KONI are too big around to fit 45mm strut housings.

Bilstein shock inserts
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  • Golf Mk I insert is nearly 4 inches shorter than stock and will need a simple spacer made to make up the difference in length in the bottom of the tube.
  • Strut piston diameter is larger than B110, so drill out the strut-nut and the strut top hole.

discussion: VW Rabbit inserts

318 body length / 511 Extended / 352 Collapsed

324 / 511 / 359'

  • Stroke: 158mm (6.25 in)
  • Bilstein part number W0133-1604944


Four different Rabbit Bilsteins available:

  • OE style "Touring
    • F4PNE3033BE / 171412031J USA Made With Internal Threads
  • stiff "Sport"
    • F4P300032M0 / 171412031J USA Made With Internal Threads
  • softer "heavy duty"
  • race: 270/100 for rebound/compression


Bilstein Race & Rallye (gas)

  • Strut Part Number V36-0059 (but just buy the inserts)
  • 270/100 damping
  • Fits:
    • 1974-1984 Golf/Rabbit
    • 1977-1981 Volkswagen Scirocco I 4 cyl 8v
    • 1980-1984 Volkswagen Jetta I 4 cyl 8v
    • 1982-1988 Volkswagen Scirocco II 1.8L 8v
    • 1986-1988 Volkswagen Scirocco II 1.8L 16v


Monroe Sensa-Trac (gas) 72878 / P832

  • Models w/ Internal Threads on Original Strut Housing (U. S. A.)
  • Diameter: 1.5"
  • Stroke: 152mm (6.000 in)
  • Ext len: 511mm (20.125 in)
  • Comp len: 359mm (14.125 in)
  • Body len: 324mm (12.750 in)


Monroe Sensa-Trac (gas) 72826 / 17090011

  • Models w/ External Threads on Original Strut Housing (German)
  • Diameter: 1.5"
  • Stroke: 6.250"
  • Ext len: 20.125"
  • Comp len: 13.875"
  • Body len: 12.500"
  • Piston diameter: 0.75"

Monroe Reflex
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Toyota TRD

Get them from TRD

Yotato Starlet 1978-1984 (RWD)
Toyota MR2 MK1 1985-1986 Rear Insert, 65 mm shorter than (120y) B210, KONI 8641 1072sport
Toyota TRD 48511-AE941
477 mm extended
342 mm compressed
Stroke: 135 mm [compared to 169 mm stock Datsun 1200]
damping: 2313/1098N

Measurements

Strut Housing

  • Outside Diameter: 45mm (1.77 in)
  • Inside Diameter: about 1.5 inch


Nissan 56105-H5025 for Datsun B110

  • Body length: 41.8mm (16-3/8 inch). The seal protrudes 1/8 past this.
  • diameter: main housing - 37.6mm (1.48 in)
  • diameter: upper collar at top of housing - 40.9mm (1.61 in)
  • shaft dia. 17.8mm (1.7 in)
  • thread height - 24mm
  • thread diameter - M10 (10mm hole, 11 mm threads)
  • Overall collapsed - 46.2mm (18-3/16 in.)
  • Overall extended - 63.1mm (24-13/16 in.)
  • Stroke: 16.9mm (6.7 in)


Specifications

Original B110 Strut valving Damping Force @ 0.3m/sec:

  • Expansion kg(lb): 48 (106)
  • Compression kg(lb): 22 (48.5)


Stroke

  • B310 strut valve: 164 mm (6.46 in)
  • B310 cartridge: 161.5
  • B310 cartridge: 160.5 A12A Canada (12" wheels)

Damping rates are same for B310 valve or insert, but stroke differs slightly.

Damping Force

model B110 1970-1973 disc B210 1974-1977 A13/A14 B210 1978 A14 B310 1979 B310 80-82 B310 12"
expansion: kg 48 32-48 28-42 30-40 28-42 38-58
compression: kg 22 20-30 16-24 17-23 16-24 15.5-24.5