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-	The Toyota 4A engine variations are a popular swap into Datsun 1200s.	+	The {{wiki|Toyota A engine}} variations are a popular swap into Datsun 1200s, especially the 4A-GE (1600cc) which is the most common high-power version.
	= About =		= About =
-	Toyota 4A engine series are 1600cc engines, so are a significant upgrade in terms of cubic inches alone compared to the Datsun A12 or A14. However, it is the [[wikipedia:DOHC|DOHC]] 4A-GE that shines with impressive power. Also notable is the [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=555&forum=1 4AGEZ supercharged] engine from the [[wikipedia:Toyota MR2|Toyota MR2]].	+	Toyota 4A engine series are 1600cc engines, so are a significant upgrade in terms of cubic CCs alone compared to the Datsun A12 or A14. However, it is the {{wiki|DOHC}} 4A-GE that shines with impressive power due to 4 valves per cylinder (16V).
-	NOTE to newbys: Beware of mentioning rotary-powered or [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6388&forum=1#11341 Toyota 4AGE]-powered 1200s. Some club members may get offended! But really, these are also excellent engines that fit in fairly well. Just don't tell anybody ;-)	+	4AGE 16V engine is arguably one of the best 1.6 litre motors ever put together. 75KW to 100KW power ratings.
-	Counterpoint: The 4AGE weighs the same as the better engine... Nissan's CA18DE. The CA18DE is 200cc larger, has bigger everything. So you can get away with the same mods as a 4age and get more power.	+	NOTE to newbys: Beware of mentioning rotary-powered or 4A-GE-powered 1200s. Some club members may get offended! But really, these are also excellent engines that fit in fairly well. Just don't tell anybody ;-)
	{{Album|18188}}		{{Album|18188}}
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		+	<blockquote>Counterpoint: The 4AGE weighs the same as the better engine... Nissan's CA18DE. The CA18DE is 200cc more capacity, has bigger everything. So for the same mods as a 4age, you can [[CA|swap in a CA engine]] and get more power.</blockquote>
	The biggest thing that has to be done was a fabricated header, because the 4A manifold is large and does not clear the LHD steering box. You may not have any trouble with a RHD car.		The biggest thing that has to be done was a fabricated header, because the 4A manifold is large and does not clear the LHD steering box. You may not have any trouble with a RHD car.
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-	Although some have been able to extract more power from the 4A-FE. The upside is that they are very easily obtainable and so are parts. They are a narrow angle DOHC (single sprocket) cross-flow alloy head with a cast iron block.	+	Also notable is the 4AGEZ supercharged engine from the Toyota MR2.
-	* [[Toyota 4A engine|4A-GE]] (wide angle DOHC) Come in 5 flavours ranging from 86kW (Gen 2) up to 121kW (Gen 5) 20 Valve.	+	4AGE 20V engine: 120 kw
-	* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=555&forum=1 4A-GZE supercharged]. Some use this motor and its fuel system and computer for a turbo setup although simply replacing the cast pistons with forged items in a 4A-GE will yield the same result (except that an aftermarket ECU will be needed). The advantage over the supercharger is that boost can be variably controlled using and adjustable wastegate or boost controller. A supercharger has a fixed design boost, although aftermarket overdrive pulleys are available. They don't like to be spun more that around 8000 rpm as the teflon coatings on the roots can melt.	+	{{Album|4065}}
-	{{Album|19928}}	+	Although some have been able to extract more power from the cheaper 4A-FE SOHC engine. The upside is that they are very easily obtainable and so are parts. They are a narrow angle SOHC (single sprocket) cross-flow alloy head with a cast iron block.
-	= Swap Overview =	+	* 4A-GE (wide angle DOHC) Come in 5 flavours ranging from 86kW (Gen 2) up to 121kW (Gen 5) 20 Valve.
-	{{Album|26020}}	+	* 4A-GEZ supercharged. Some use this motor and its fuel system and computer for a turbo setup although simply replacing the cast pistons with forged items in a 4A-GE will yield the same result (except that an aftermarket ECU will be needed). The advantage over the supercharger is that boost can be variably controlled using and adjustable wastegate or boost controller. A supercharger has a fixed design boost, although aftermarket overdrive pulleys are available. They don't like to be spun more that around 8000 rpm as the teflon coatings on the roots can melt.
-	The conversion isn't bolt-on -- its all fab work:	+	{{Album|19928}}
-	* Engine mounts	+
-	* Gearbox mount	+
-	* Custom cooling system pipes	+
-	* Custom exhaust	+
-	No one sells a "kit" to fit the 4AGE into a Datsun 1200.	+
-		+
-	20V 4AGE's use a distributor which ends up in the 1200 glovebox and heater/demister box. This means modifying all that. That isn't easy.	+
-		+
-	Front-wheel-drive 4AGE uses a distributor which ends up in the 1200 glovebox and heater/demister box. Modifying all that isn't easy. It's almost always a FWD engine in Australia, unless you can get a Japanese RWD AE86 Engine.	+
	= Source for Engine =		= Source for Engine =
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	* AE71 was the 1983 Corolla, with carbureted 4AS SOHC engine.		* AE71 was the 1983 Corolla, with carbureted 4AS SOHC engine.
	* AE85/AE86 was the last RWD series (1984-1986) with fuel injected DOHC 4AGE engine		* AE85/AE86 was the last RWD series (1984-1986) with fuel injected DOHC 4AGE engine
-	{{Album|826}}	+	{{Album|826|jpg|400}}
-		+	* {{wiki|Toyota MR2}} had the supercharged 4A-GEZ version
-	4AGE 16V engine is arguably one of the best 1.6 litre motors ever put together. 75KW to 100KW power ratings. The suzuki g13b or g16b weigh 15kgs less than an a15. At around 80kgs the nearest rival is the 4age at 130kg. 108 rwhp from a stock 4AGE.	+
-		+
-	4AGE 20V engine: 120 kw.	+
-	* 4065	+
	4AGZE: factory supercharged motor with about 135KW. It has factory forged pistons with later variants with ceramic coated tops, suitable for forced induction and perfect for aftermarket turbo as well. The con-rods and crank are the same or similar to 4age. (eg early AE92 4agze has larger rods). The 4agze smallport head will also come with oil squirter pistons, another good thing for cooling high performance setups. This std setup is strong enough for +200kw hence the reason people grab them for turbo setups with no reason to upgrade pistons, rods or the crank. They are 25kgs lighter than a Nissan [[Nissan CA Engine|CA18DET]] engine. Most people take off the supercharger and place on a turbo for much better performance and then loosely call it a "4AGTE". If you were hunting for max power, then a 7afe block with 4agze internals, turbo and some other mods would bump it to a 1.8L, also known as the "7agte". Maximum powered 7agtes can reach +300kw at the wheels with custom pistons, crank & rods.		4AGZE: factory supercharged motor with about 135KW. It has factory forged pistons with later variants with ceramic coated tops, suitable for forced induction and perfect for aftermarket turbo as well. The con-rods and crank are the same or similar to 4age. (eg early AE92 4agze has larger rods). The 4agze smallport head will also come with oil squirter pistons, another good thing for cooling high performance setups. This std setup is strong enough for +200kw hence the reason people grab them for turbo setups with no reason to upgrade pistons, rods or the crank. They are 25kgs lighter than a Nissan [[Nissan CA Engine|CA18DET]] engine. Most people take off the supercharger and place on a turbo for much better performance and then loosely call it a "4AGTE". If you were hunting for max power, then a 7afe block with 4agze internals, turbo and some other mods would bump it to a 1.8L, also known as the "7agte". Maximum powered 7agtes can reach +300kw at the wheels with custom pistons, crank & rods.
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	Formula Atlantic 4A-GE puts out 240 bhp.		Formula Atlantic 4A-GE puts out 240 bhp.
-	= Gearbox =	+	= Swap Overview =
-	Use the gearbox that came with the engine. Don't try to fit it to the Datsun gearbox, because the Toyota box is much stronger.	+
-	There is just enough room for the t50 in a Datsun 1200 manual tunnel. The 1200's speedometer cable screws straight on.	+	[{{Post|9500}} Swap Toyota 4AGE into 1200]
-	{{Album|26021}}	+	{{Album|26020}}
-	T50 transmission is less expensive than the Supra W55 box & plenty strong enough for the 4AGE. They've been putting them behind 5 litre Holden & Ford V8's for years. The w55 conversion for 4AGE is $1000-up (for new parts), not including the w55 itself. Don't have to cut the tunnel, put in a T50 5 speed, just cut off the two mounts in the tunnel, cleanly and the box fits perfectly.	+	The conversion isn't bolt-on -- its all fab work:
		+	* Engine mounts
		+	* Gearbox mount
		+	* Custom cooling system pipes
		+	* Custom exhaust
		+	No one sells a "kit" to fit the 4AGE into a Datsun 1200.
-	Or if you live where W55 is cheap (South Africa) use the R900 conversion bell housing	+	20V 4AGE's use a distributor which ends up in the 1200 glovebox and heater/demister box. This means modifying all that. That isn't easy.
-	<br>{{Album|9498}}	+
-	T50 is good to handle the torque from a little 1.6 liter 4AGE, but not from a 4AGZE (supercharged engine). A turbo conversion should be OK at low boosts. Otherwise you'll need a stronger transmission like this one:	+	Front-wheel-drive 4AGE uses a distributor which ends up in the 1200 glovebox and heater/demister box. Modifying all that isn't easy. It's almost always a FWD engine in Australia, unless you can get a Japanese RWD AE86 Engine.
-		+
-	Toyota W gearbox	+
-	<br>{{Album|11928}}	+
-		+
-	For drag racing, an automatic is fastest. Use Ford C4, or Toyota Trimatic. Both require custom bellhousing.	+
-		+
-	Since this is not Datsun-specific, For more details, search:	+
-	* http://www.toyota-mods.org	+
-	* [http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBySubject/Gearboxes.html Motorcity Gearboxes]	+
-		+
-	= Clutch & Flywheel =	+
-	OPTIONAL - lighten flywheel	+
-	<br>{{Album|14583}}	+
-		+
-	= Differential =	+
-	The AE86 rear live axle assembly is strong, and is narrow enough to fit under a Datsun 1200. Put the whole thing in there, and use the Toyota alloy wheels while you're at it.	+
-		+
-	AE86 is the RWD Toyota Corolla 1983-1986 (E80 series). The most desirable rear axle is from the GTS model (AE88) with disc brakes. Some were fitted with LSD, but if not TRD sells one. This model came with 14" alloy wheels instead of the 13" common to most AE86. It also had the stronger T282/T284 differential.	+
	= Projects =		= Projects =
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	== Zoom 153 ==		== Zoom 153 ==
-	4AGE STREET ELITE DATTO white ute 'DATOOW' "Third time's a charm" page 20	+	4AGE STREET ELITE DATTO white ute 'DATOOW' "Third time's a charm" page 20. In its third incarnation Simon Vella's 1200 Ute is a stunning showcase of a well thought-out performance package that goes, turns stops and looks damn good doing so.
	{{Album|26726}} {{Album|26727}} {{Album|26728}} {{Thumb|26724}} {{Thumb|26725}}		{{Album|26726}} {{Album|26727}} {{Album|26728}} {{Thumb|26724}} {{Thumb|26725}}
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-	in its third incarnation Simon Vella's 1200 Ute is a stunning showcase of a well thought-out performance package that goes, turns stops and looks damn good doing so
	==DatsunDonnie==		==DatsunDonnie==
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	In Cape Town, South Africa there is this one:		In Cape Town, South Africa there is this one:
-	{{Album|9675}} {{Album|16548}}	+	{{Album|15125}} {{Album|16548}}
	{{SeeMainArticle!|Kululadotgroen}}		{{SeeMainArticle!|Kululadotgroen}}
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-	{{Thumb|9486}} {{Thumb|9487}} {{Thumb|9489}} {{Thumb|9490}} {{Thumb|9491}} {{Thumb|9492}} {{Thumb|9493}} {{Thumb|9494}} {{Thumb|9495}} {{Thumb|9496}} {{Thumb|9497}} {{Thumb|9498}} {{Thumb|9499}} {{Thumb|9505}} {{Thumb|9506}} {{Thumb|9507}} {{Thumb|9508}} {{Thumb|9510}} {{Thumb|9511}} {{Thumb|9512}} {{Thumb|9513}} {{Thumb|9514}} {{Thumb|9515}} {{Thumb|9516}} {{Thumb|9517}} {{Thumb|9518}} {{Thumb|9519}} {{Thumb|9520}} {{Thumb|9521}} {{Thumb|9522}} {{Thumb|9523}} {{Thumb|9524}} {{Thumb|9525}} {{Thumb|9526}} {{Thumb|9668}} {{Thumb|9669}} {{Thumb|9670}} {{Thumb|9671}} {{Thumb|9672}} {{Thumb|9673}} {{Thumb|9674}} {{Thumb|9675}} {{Thumb|9676}} {{Thumb|9677}} {{Thumb|9678}} {{Thumb|9679}} {{Thumb|9680}} {{Thumb|10833}} {{Thumb|10835}} {{Thumb|10952}} {{Thumb|10953}} {{Thumb|10954}} {{Thumb|12440}} {{Thumb|12441}} {{Thumb|12442}} {{Thumb|12662}} {{Thumb|12670}} {{Thumb|12671}} {{Thumb|12672}} {{Thumb|12673}} {{Thumb|12674}} {{Thumb|12675}} {{Thumb|12676}} {{Thumb|12692}} {{Thumb|12693}}
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	== Jason's 1200 Coupe==		== Jason's 1200 Coupe==
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	(now sold)		(now sold)
-	gearbox crossmember	+	gearbox | crossmember
-	<br>{{Thumb|4642}} {{Thumb|4639}}	+	<br>{{Album|4642}} {{Album|4639}}
	= Swap Notes =		= Swap Notes =
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	* http://www.club4ag.com		* http://www.club4ag.com
-	{{Thumb|9515}} Engine Mount Left{{Thumb|9493}}	+	== Engine Fitting ==
		+	{{Album|9507}} {{Album|9506}}
-	{{Thumb|9514}} Engine Mount Right {{Thumb|9492}}	+	Engine Mount Left
		+	<br>{{Album|9515}} {{Album|9493}}
-	{{Thumb|9499}} Sump Fitment	+	Engine Mount Right
		+	<br>{{Album|9514}} {{Album|9492}} {{Album|10002}}
		+
		+	Sump Fitment
		+	<br>{{Album|9499}}
	The 4A has a front sump oil pan, actually shorter than the a12, so you can position it lower in the chassis.		The 4A has a front sump oil pan, actually shorter than the a12, so you can position it lower in the chassis.
-	{{Thumb|9494}} front clearance	+	front clearance | rear clearance
		+	<br>{{Album|9494}} {{Album|9491}}
-	{{Thumb|9491}} rear clearance	+	Air Inlet
		+	<br>{{Album|9508}}
-	{{Thumb|9508}} Air Inlet	+	== Clutch & Flywheel ==
		+	OPTIONAL - lighten flywheel
		+	<br>{{Album|14583}}
-	{{Thumb|9507}} Engine {{Thumb|9506}}	+	== Gearbox ==
		+	Use the gearbox that came with the engine. Don't try to fit it to the Datsun gearbox, because the Toyota box is much stronger.
-	{{Thumb|9498}} Gearbox {{Thumb|9497}}{{Thumb|9496}}	+	The 1200's speedometer cable screws straight on.
-	{{Thumb|9495}} Shifter	+	There is just enough room for the t50 in a Datsun 1200 manual tunnel -- no need to cut the tunnel out.
-	{{Thumb|9509}} [[Radiator|VW Golf Radiator]]	+	{{Album|9495}} {{AlbumH|26021|jpg|266}}
-	{{Thumb|9673}} Water pump hose	+	T50 transmission is less expensive than the Supra W55 box & plenty strong enough for the 4AGE. They've been putting them behind 5 litre Holden & Ford V8's for years. The w55 conversion for 4AGE is $1000-up (for new parts), not including the w55 itself. Don't have to cut the tunnel, put in a T50 5 speed, just cut off the two mounts in the tunnel, cleanly and the box fits perfectly.
-	{{Thumb|9672}} Radiator {{Thumb|9517}}	+	Or if you live where W55 is cheap (South Africa) use the R900 conversion bell housing
		+	<br>{{Album|9498}}
-	{{Thumb|9671}} Water bottle {{Thumb|9670}}	+	T50 is good to handle the torque from a little 1.6 liter 4AGE, but not from a 4AGZE (supercharged engine). A turbo conversion should be OK at low boosts. Otherwise you'll need a stronger transmission like this one:
-	{{Thumb|9522}} Pedal Boxes	+	Toyota W gearbox
		+	<br>{{Album|11928}}
-	Brake booster	+	For drag racing, an automatic is fastest. Use Ford C4, or Toyota Trimatic. Both require custom bellhousing.
-	<br>{{Thumb|9521}}{{Thumb|9520}}{{Thumb|9519}} {{Thumb|9669}} {{Thumb|9525}}{{Thumb|9524}}	+
-	{{Thumb|9668}} clutch pedal {{Thumb|9526}}	+	Since this is not Datsun-specific, For more details, search:
		+	* http://www.toyota-mods.org
		+	* [http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBySubject/Gearboxes.html Motorcity Gearboxes]
		+
		+	Gearbox
		+	<br>{{Album|9498}} {{Album|9497}} {{Album|9496}}
		+
		+	Shifter
		+	<br>{{Album|9495}}
		+
		+	== Differential ==
		+	The AE86 rear live axle assembly is strong, and is narrow enough to fit under a Datsun 1200. Put the whole thing in there, and use the Toyota alloy wheels while you're at it.
		+
		+	AE86 is the RWD Toyota Corolla 1983-1986 ([[Corolla#E85.2FE86_vs_Nobody|E80 series]]). The most desirable rear axle is from the GTS model (AE88) with disc brakes. Some were fitted with [[LSD]], but if not TRD sells one. This model came with 14" alloy wheels instead of the 13" common to most AE86. It also had the stronger T282/T284 differential.
		+
		+	== Radiator ==
		+	[[Radiator_Upgrades#Brand_new_aluminum_radiator.2C_.2443_USD|VW Golf Radiator]]
		+	<br>{{Album|9509}} {{Album|9672}} {{Album|9517}}
		+
		+	Water pump hose
		+	<br>{{Album|9673}}
		+
		+	VW Water bottle
		+	<br>{{Album|9671}} {{Album|9670}}
		+
		+	== Brake Booster & Clutch Pedal ==
		+	Toyota gearbox uses hydraulic clutch pedal.
		+
		+	Pedal Boxes
		+	<br>{{Album|9522}}
		+
		+	Brake booster
		+	<br>{{Album|9521}} {{Album|9520}} {{Album|9519}} {{Album|9669}} {{Album|9525}} {{Album|9524}}
-	{{Thumb|10002}} right mount	+	clutch pedal
		+	<br>{{Album|9668}} {{Album|9526}}
	= Discussions =		= Discussions =
-	* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=26023&forum=1 Datsun 1200 (4agze TURBO)Conversion]	+	* [{{Post|143074}} Datsun 1200 (4agze TURBO) Conversion]
-	* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=25138&forum=1 4331] 4AGE into Datsun 1000	+	* [{{Post|135956}} 4AGE into Datsun 1000]
		+	{{Album|4331}}
	= Photo Index =		= Photo Index =

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Revision as of 23:14, 9 March 2019

The Toyota A engineᵂ variations are a popular swap into Datsun 1200s, especially the 4A-GE (1600cc) which is the most common high-power version.

Contents 1 About 2 Source for Engine 3 Swap Overview 4 Projects 4.1 Zoom 153 4.2 DatsunDonnie 4.3 GX Monster 4.4 Kululadotgroen 4.5 Jason's 1200 Coupe 4.6 Randoli 4.7 3Rotor 4.8 Wogboy 4.9 Normo's Ute 5 Swap Notes 5.1 Engine Fitting 5.2 Clutch & Flywheel 5.3 Gearbox 5.4 Differential 5.5 Radiator 5.6 Brake Booster & Clutch Pedal 6 Discussions 7 Photo Index

About

Toyota 4A engine series are 1600cc engines, so are a significant upgrade in terms of cubic CCs alone compared to the Datsun A12 or A14. However, it is the DOHCᵂ 4A-GE that shines with impressive power due to 4 valves per cylinder (16V).

4AGE 16V engine is arguably one of the best 1.6 litre motors ever put together. 75KW to 100KW power ratings.

NOTE to newbys: Beware of mentioning rotary-powered or 4A-GE-powered 1200s. Some club members may get offended! But really, these are also excellent engines that fit in fairly well. Just don't tell anybody ;-)

Album 18188

Counterpoint: The 4AGE weighs the same as the better engine... Nissan's CA18DE. The CA18DE is 200cc more capacity, has bigger everything. So for the same mods as a 4age, you can swap in a CA engine and get more power.

The biggest thing that has to be done was a fabricated header, because the 4A manifold is large and does not clear the LHD steering box. You may not have any trouble with a RHD car.

Datsun A15 vs Toyota 4A-**

	Datsun A15	4A-FE	4A-GE (Gen 3)	4A-GZE (AE101)
Bore	76 mm	81 mm	81 mm	81 mm
Stroke	82 mm	77 mm	77 mm	77 mm
Displacement	1488 cc	1587 cc	1587 cc	1587 cc
Power	81 hp (60 kW)	89 hp (66 kW)	138 hp (103 kW)	168 hp (125 kW)

Also notable is the 4AGEZ supercharged engine from the Toyota MR2.

4AGE 20V engine: 120 kw
Album 4065

Although some have been able to extract more power from the cheaper 4A-FE SOHC engine. The upside is that they are very easily obtainable and so are parts. They are a narrow angle SOHC (single sprocket) cross-flow alloy head with a cast iron block.

• 4A-GE (wide angle DOHC) Come in 5 flavours ranging from 86kW (Gen 2) up to 121kW (Gen 5) 20 Valve.
• 4A-GEZ supercharged. Some use this motor and its fuel system and computer for a turbo setup although simply replacing the cast pistons with forged items in a 4A-GE will yield the same result (except that an aftermarket ECU will be needed). The advantage over the supercharger is that boost can be variably controlled using and adjustable wastegate or boost controller. A supercharger has a fixed design boost, although aftermarket overdrive pulleys are available. They don't like to be spun more that around 8000 rpm as the teflon coatings on the roots can melt.

Album 19928

Source for Engine

RWD 4A Engines

• AE71 was the 1983 Corolla, with carbureted 4AS SOHC engine.
• AE85/AE86 was the last RWD series (1984-1986) with fuel injected DOHC 4AGE engine

Album 826

• Toyota MR2ᵂ had the supercharged 4A-GEZ version

4AGZE: factory supercharged motor with about 135KW. It has factory forged pistons with later variants with ceramic coated tops, suitable for forced induction and perfect for aftermarket turbo as well. The con-rods and crank are the same or similar to 4age. (eg early AE92 4agze has larger rods). The 4agze smallport head will also come with oil squirter pistons, another good thing for cooling high performance setups. This std setup is strong enough for +200kw hence the reason people grab them for turbo setups with no reason to upgrade pistons, rods or the crank. They are 25kgs lighter than a Nissan CA18DET engine. Most people take off the supercharger and place on a turbo for much better performance and then loosely call it a "4AGTE". If you were hunting for max power, then a 7afe block with 4agze internals, turbo and some other mods would bump it to a 1.8L, also known as the "7agte". Maximum powered 7agtes can reach +300kw at the wheels with custom pistons, crank & rods.

Formula Atlantic 4A-GE puts out 240 bhp.

Swap Overview

POST Swap Toyota 4AGE into 1200

Album 26020

The conversion isn't bolt-on -- its all fab work:

• Engine mounts
• Gearbox mount
• Custom cooling system pipes
• Custom exhaust

No one sells a "kit" to fit the 4AGE into a Datsun 1200.

20V 4AGE's use a distributor which ends up in the 1200 glovebox and heater/demister box. This means modifying all that. That isn't easy.

Front-wheel-drive 4AGE uses a distributor which ends up in the 1200 glovebox and heater/demister box. Modifying all that isn't easy. It's almost always a FWD engine in Australia, unless you can get a Japanese RWD AE86 Engine.

Projects

Ruda's 11-sec Bakkie
Album 2080

Zoom 153

4AGE STREET ELITE DATTO white ute 'DATOOW' "Third time's a charm" page 20. In its third incarnation Simon Vella's 1200 Ute is a stunning showcase of a well thought-out performance package that goes, turns stops and looks damn good doing so.

Album 26726 Album 26727 Album 26728 Album click to view Album click to view

DatsunDonnie

Donnie in Victoria, Canada has a fantastic 4AGE-powered 2-door sedan:
Album 3020

Had it at the drags the other night-15.95@86mph sound good? 7100 RPM through the traps!

Album 4002 Album 3019

Donnie used the stock Datsun 1200 radiator.

GX Monster

South Africa

Album 14762 Album 14763 Album 14761

Kululadotgroen

In Cape Town, South Africa there is this one:

Album 15125 Album 16548

Jason's 1200 Coupe

Out of Vancouver, WA:
Album 1609 Album 4003

• Toyota 4AGE DOHC engine
• Toyota T50 5-speed
• Corolla EFI fuel tank is in the back compartment
• 77 Corolla SR5 rear with LSD pumpkin
• 175/70R-13 tires

Randoli

4A-GZE conversion. Use EMS ECU and removed the MAF sensor
Album 21259 Album 18548

3Rotor

See all pics from 10936 - 10947, starting with:

Album 10936

Wogboy

4A Turbo conversion

Normo's Ute

(now sold)

gearbox | crossmember
Album 4642 Album 4639

Swap Notes

• http://www.toyotaturbo.com/1200datsun.htm
• http://www.users.bigpond.com/vidore/toyota_4age_engine.htm
• http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20tech_pages/4A-GE_technical_specifications.htm
• http://www.club4ag.com

Engine Fitting

Album 9507 Album 9506

Engine Mount Left
Album 9515 Album 9493

Engine Mount Right
Album 9514 Album 9492 Album 10002

Sump Fitment
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The 4A has a front sump oil pan, actually shorter than the a12, so you can position it lower in the chassis.

front clearance | rear clearance
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Air Inlet
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Clutch & Flywheel

OPTIONAL - lighten flywheel
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Gearbox

Use the gearbox that came with the engine. Don't try to fit it to the Datsun gearbox, because the Toyota box is much stronger.

The 1200's speedometer cable screws straight on.

There is just enough room for the t50 in a Datsun 1200 manual tunnel -- no need to cut the tunnel out.

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T50 transmission is less expensive than the Supra W55 box & plenty strong enough for the 4AGE. They've been putting them behind 5 litre Holden & Ford V8's for years. The w55 conversion for 4AGE is $1000-up (for new parts), not including the w55 itself. Don't have to cut the tunnel, put in a T50 5 speed, just cut off the two mounts in the tunnel, cleanly and the box fits perfectly.

Or if you live where W55 is cheap (South Africa) use the R900 conversion bell housing
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T50 is good to handle the torque from a little 1.6 liter 4AGE, but not from a 4AGZE (supercharged engine). A turbo conversion should be OK at low boosts. Otherwise you'll need a stronger transmission like this one:

Toyota W gearbox
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For drag racing, an automatic is fastest. Use Ford C4, or Toyota Trimatic. Both require custom bellhousing.

Since this is not Datsun-specific, For more details, search:

• http://www.toyota-mods.org
• Motorcity Gearboxes

Gearbox
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Shifter
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Differential

The AE86 rear live axle assembly is strong, and is narrow enough to fit under a Datsun 1200. Put the whole thing in there, and use the Toyota alloy wheels while you're at it.

AE86 is the RWD Toyota Corolla 1983-1986 (E80 series). The most desirable rear axle is from the GTS model (AE88) with disc brakes. Some were fitted with LSD, but if not TRD sells one. This model came with 14" alloy wheels instead of the 13" common to most AE86. It also had the stronger T282/T284 differential.

Radiator

VW Golf Radiator
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Water pump hose
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VW Water bottle
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Brake Booster & Clutch Pedal

Toyota gearbox uses hydraulic clutch pedal.

Pedal Boxes
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Brake booster
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clutch pedal
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Discussions

* POST Datsun 1200 (4agze TURBO) Conversion
* POST 4AGE into Datsun 1000
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