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Engine Mounts

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-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20928 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20928.jpg]+{{See|Crossmember}}<br>
 += Overview =
 +[[#Rubber Insulators|#Insulator]] | [[#Brackets]]
 +<br>{{AlbumH|20928|jpg|320}} {{Album|20923|jpg|256}}
-= Engine Crossmember =+= Rubber Insulators =
-Front: 1970-1973 1200 engine tall crossmember (B110/B120) +Engine mounting insulator sits between the engine mounting brackets and the crossmember, and provides insulation from noise and vibration.
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=13676 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=320&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/13676.jpg]+
-<br>Rear: 1974-up 1200 tall/short engine crossmember+
-Not only does the new-style engine have a lower mount, but the mount is further back about 1.5 inch. These photos shows how far back:+{{Main|Insulators}}
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=7976 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=224&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/7976.jpg] [http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h16/datsik1200/Photo-0283-1.jpg http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=224&uri=http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h16/datsik1200/Photo-0283-1.jpg]+
-Original B110 engine brackets: 
-<br>right side (high-mount) 
 +{{Album!|20928}}
-<br>Top: High-type right mount (1970-1973 crossmembers)+= Brackets =
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20923 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/20923.jpg]+ B110 (1970-1973)
-<br>Bottom: Low-type right mount (B310?)+ {{Album|25736}}
 + Late 1200 (1974-1994) + B210 + B310
 + {{Album|20934}}
-== Late Engine Mounting ==+= B110 and B120 =
-1974 and up engines are different, and 1974-up 1200s use a corresponding crossmember+Which brackets you need depend on the vehicle's crossmember.
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20924 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20924.jpg] LH+
-Low side mount (new crossmembers)+Front: 1970-1973 1200 engine tall [[crossmember]] (B110/B120)
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2564 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2564.jpg] RH+<br>Rear: 1974-up 1200 tall/short engine crossmember
-* 11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 7510-8503+<br>{{Album|13676}}
-* 11222-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 8504-+
 +Not only does the new-style engine have a lower right-hand mount, but the mounts are further back 35mm (~1-3/8"). These photos shows how far back:
 +<br>{{Album|7976}} {{Photo|Photo-0283-1.jpg}}
-High side mount (similar to earlier)+There are TWO types of right-side brackets:
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2563 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2563.jpg] +<br>{{Album|20923}}
-* 11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 7510-8503+* Top: original style
-* 11221-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 8504-+* Bottom: new style for revised crossmembers
 +** Allows fitment of reduction gear starters
 +** Starting with 1978 B210 USA (H8500)
 +** All B310 (H8500)
 +** Starting with 1985 B120 JDM (G1900)
 +NOTE: If you mix early engine with late crosmember (or vice-versa) it will require some modifications. In this case see [[A-series Engine Swaps]].
-* 11223-H5000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT 7510-8503 [8mm studs]+== Early Engine Mounting ==
-* 11223-G1900 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT 8504- [8mm studs]+1970-1973 Datsun 1200 uses bracket that fit the early A12 engine. Note that the left-side bracket is stepped to fit the engine block.
-*: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20928 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20928.jpg]+<br>{{Album|20925}} {{Album|19820}}
 +B110 Insulator
 +<br>{{AlbumH|20929|jpg|298}} {{Album|20940}}
-= B10 Mounts =+* 11221-H1000 BRACKET-engine mounting, front (R.H.)
-As you can see these are different from newer (B110, etc) mounts.+*: {{Album|562|gif}} {{Album|20943}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18305 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18305.jpg]+* 11222-H1000 BRACKET-engine mounting, front (L.H.)
 +** Stepped mounting. Lower boss is farther out than upper boss
 +*: {{Album|14950}} {{Album|209|JPG}} {{Album|20942}} {{Album|23563}}
-= B210 Mounts =+== Late Engine Mounting ==
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20926 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20926.jpg]+1974 and up engines are different, and 1974-up 1200s use a corresponding crossmember
 +<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20924 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20924.jpg]
-* 11220-H5000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT V [10 mm studs]+[[Engine Mounts]] dimensions
-* 11220-H7500 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT [except] V [10 mm studs]+<br>{{Album|25421}}
 + High side mount (similar to earlier)
 + 11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 7510-8503
 + 11221-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 8504-
-* 11221-H7301 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH+ Low side mount (new crossmembers)
 + 11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 7510-8503
 + * Same part for 74-up B120 (ute), B210 and B310
 + 11222-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 8504-
 +11221-G1900 RH
 +<br>{{Album|2563}}
-* 11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH+11222-H5001 LH
 +<br>{{Album|2564}}
 +=== 1978 Revision ===
 +1978 [[Reduction gear starter]] modification
 +<br>{{Album|23748}} {{AlbumH|20923|jpg|248}}
-= B310 Mounts =+= B10 Mounts =
-The B310 insulators have a metal wrap in case the rubber breaks, the engine won't move too far.+The Datsun 1000 parts are different from newer (B110, etc) mounts.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20927 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20927.jpg]+ 11121-18000 BRACKET-engine mounting front (R.H.)
 + * stepped bracket - looks similar to B110 LH bracket
 + 11122-18000 BRACKET-engine mounting front (L.H.)
 + * flat (unstepped) bracket
-B310 engine mounts have a larger studs and locating pins, plus a safety wrap design, but otherwise are the same dimesion as B110 mounts. +RH stepped bracket
 +<br>{{Album|2569}}
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4689 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/4689.jpg]+== Late Engine Into Datsun 1000 ==
 +For putting a 1974-up engine into a B10, see [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=295981#forumpost295981 Chris's Rip Snorter A12 & Red B10]
-* 11223-H1900 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT B310 [10 mm studs]+{{Album!|21063}} {{Album!|21062}}
 += B210 Mounts =
 +{{Album|20926}}
-* 11222-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH+ 11223-H5000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT V [8 mm studs]
 + * also used by 1976-1985 Datsun 1200
 + 11223-H6100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA -0874 [for A13 engine]
 + * ? mm studs, A13 engine harder mounts]
 + 11223-H7500 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT except Van [10 mm studs]
 + 11223-H7300 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA 0974-
 + * [10 mm studs, A14 engine softer mounts] $30.47 USD
 + * replaces 11223-H7500
 + * replaces 11223-H6100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA -0874
 + [? mm studs, A13 engine harder mounts]
 + 11221-H7301 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH
 + * USA -0777
 + USA 11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH -0874
 + {{Album|20517}}
 + USA 11121-H7300 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0974-1074
 + USA 11221-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0877-
 + * Bracket notched for Reduction Gear [[Starter]]?
-* 11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH+ 11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH
-** Same as mid-model B120, but larger hole for the insulator stud+ {{Album|20516}}
-= Upgraded Insulators =+Right-side mount comparison:
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6215 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/6215.jpg]+<br>Middle pair is B110 early, right is B210? (thin), left is B310? (thick)
-* "These are the heavy duty engine mounts we were talking about. Broken engine mounts are a common thing in rally cars and this fixes the problem. Mounts are polyurethane and come out of a ford cortina and last for years of competition...Part number MT8156N. Kelpro make them...I usually just go to a good parts place and ask for cortina engine mounts and this is what they give me. Maybe there are two types, these are about 70mm in dia."+<br>{{Album|20945}}
 +B210 crossmember change for 1978 North America
 +<br>{{Album|23748}}
 +<br>Crossmember horns are farther apart, requiring new style RH bracket
 +<br>B310 uses this new spacing
-* http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34366&forum=1 One guy said: "you might want to look at the poly-urathene style mounts. I am using some of a Jag. The part number is at home. but they are heaps wider but no tallers, so they make a good direct replacement, plus they are high temp rated."+= B310 Mounts =
 +The B310 insulators have a metal wrap in case the rubber breaks, the engine won't move too far.
 +<br>{{Album|20927}}
 + 11223-H9100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH [10 mm studs] $34.38 USD
 + 11224-H9100 INSULATOR ASSY-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT LH $44.32 USD
 + {{Album|4689}}
 +
 +B310 insulators have a larger studs and locating pins, but otherwise are the same dimensions as B110 mounts.
 +
 + 11221-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH
 +
 +Stronger, more rigid than ever - perhaps to reduce [[NVH]] (noise, vibration and harshness)
 +<br>{{Album|20930}} {{Album|20935}}
 +
 +11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH
 +<br> * Same as B210 and mid-model B120
 +<br>{{Album|16679}} {{Album|20936}}
 +
 +Left and Right together
 +<br>{{Album|20934}}
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 +
 +[[Category:Engine Mechanical]]

Current revision

See also: Crossmember

Contents

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Overview

#Insulator | #Brackets
20928.jpgAlbum 20928 20923.jpgAlbum 20923

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Rubber Insulators

Engine mounting insulator sits between the engine mounting brackets and the crossmember, and provides insulation from noise and vibration.

Main: Insulators


20928.jpg

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Brackets 

B110 (1970-1973)
25736.jpgAlbum 25736

Late 1200 (1974-1994) + B210 + B310
20934.jpgAlbum 20934
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B110 and B120

Which brackets you need depend on the vehicle's crossmember.

Front: 1970-1973 1200 engine tall crossmember (B110/B120)
Rear: 1974-up 1200 tall/short engine crossmember
13676.jpgAlbum 13676

Not only does the new-style engine have a lower right-hand mount, but the mounts are further back 35mm (~1-3/8"). These photos shows how far back:
7976.jpgAlbum 7976 Photo-0283-1.jpg

There are TWO types of right-side brackets:
20923.jpgAlbum 20923

  • Top: original style
  • Bottom: new style for revised crossmembers
    • Allows fitment of reduction gear starters
    • Starting with 1978 B210 USA (H8500)
    • All B310 (H8500)
    • Starting with 1985 B120 JDM (G1900)

NOTE: If you mix early engine with late crosmember (or vice-versa) it will require some modifications. In this case see A-series Engine Swaps.

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Early Engine Mounting

1970-1973 Datsun 1200 uses bracket that fit the early A12 engine. Note that the left-side bracket is stepped to fit the engine block.
20925.jpgAlbum 20925 19820.jpgAlbum 19820

B110 Insulator
20929.jpgAlbum 20929 20940.jpgAlbum 20940

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Late Engine Mounting

1974 and up engines are different, and 1974-up 1200s use a corresponding crossmember
20924.jpg

Engine Mounts dimensions
25421.jpgAlbum 25421 

High side mount (similar to earlier)
11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 7510-8503
11221-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 8504-

Low side mount (new crossmembers)
11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 7510-8503
* Same part for 74-up B120 (ute), B210 and B310
11222-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 8504-

11221-G1900 RH
2563.jpgAlbum 2563

11222-H5001 LH
2564.jpgAlbum 2564

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1978 Revision

1978 Reduction gear starter modification
23748.jpgAlbum 23748 20923.jpgAlbum 20923

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B10 Mounts

The Datsun 1000 parts are different from newer (B110, etc) mounts. 

11121-18000 BRACKET-engine mounting front (R.H.) 
* stepped bracket - looks similar to B110 LH bracket
 11122-18000 BRACKET-engine mounting front (L.H.) 
* flat (unstepped) bracket

RH stepped bracket
2569.jpgAlbum 2569

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Late Engine Into Datsun 1000

For putting a 1974-up engine into a B10, see Chris's Rip Snorter A12 & Red B10

21063.jpg 21062.jpg

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B210 Mounts

20926.jpgAlbum 20926 

11223-H5000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT V [8 mm studs]
* also used by 1976-1985 Datsun 1200
11223-H6100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA -0874 [for A13 engine]
* ? mm studs, A13 engine harder mounts]
11223-H7500 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT except Van [10 mm studs]
11223-H7300 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA 0974- 
* [10 mm studs, A14 engine softer mounts] $30.47 USD
* replaces 11223-H7500
* replaces 11223-H6100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA -0874 
  [? mm studs, A13 engine harder mounts]

11221-H7301 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH
* USA -0777
USA 11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH -0874
20517.jpgAlbum 20517
USA 11121-H7300 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0974-1074
USA 11221-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0877-
* Bracket notched for Reduction Gear Starter?

11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH
20516.jpgAlbum 20516

Right-side mount comparison:
Middle pair is B110 early, right is B210? (thin), left is B310? (thick)
20945.jpgAlbum 20945

B210 crossmember change for 1978 North America
23748.jpgAlbum 23748
Crossmember horns are farther apart, requiring new style RH bracket
B310 uses this new spacing

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B310 Mounts

The B310 insulators have a metal wrap in case the rubber breaks, the engine won't move too far.
20927.jpgAlbum 20927 

11223-H9100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH [10 mm studs] $34.38 USD
11224-H9100 INSULATOR ASSY-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT LH $44.32 USD
4689.jpgAlbum 4689

B310 insulators have a larger studs and locating pins, but otherwise are the same dimensions as B110 mounts. 

11221-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH

Stronger, more rigid than ever - perhaps to reduce NVH (noise, vibration and harshness)
20930.jpgAlbum 20930 20935.jpgAlbum 20935

11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH
* Same as B210 and mid-model B120
16679.jpgAlbum 16679 20936.jpgAlbum 20936

Left and Right together
20934.jpgAlbum 20934

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