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-The crankshaft is interchangeable between early A12, A12GX, late A12, late A13 and A12A. Only the flywheel bolts differ, starting with the [[A-series_Engine_Changes#1974|A-engine Redesign]] using metric bolts. +{{BackTo|Engine}}
 + 
 +The crankshaft is interchangeable between early A12, A12GX, late A12, late A13 and A12A. Only the flywheel bolts differ, using metric bolts starting with the [[A-series_Engine_Changes#1974|A-engine Redesign]].
= Overview = = Overview =
 +{{Album|17133}}
 +
All Datsun A-series crankshafts are forged, and stroke comes in four sizes: All Datsun A-series crankshafts are forged, and stroke comes in four sizes:
-* 70mm (2.76 in.) stroke: A12/A12A/A13(1980) 
-* 77mm (3.03 in.) stroke: A13(1974)/A14 
-* 82mm (3.23 in.) stroke: A15  
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17133 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/17133.jpg]+ * 70mm (2.76 in.) stroke: A12/A12A/A13(1980)
 + * 77mm (3.03 in.) stroke: A13(1974)/A14
 + * 82mm (3.23 in.) stroke: A15
 + 
 +Crankshaft Stroke:
 +<br>{{Photo|14241.jpg}}
 + 
 +Bare crank
 +<br>{{Album|30408}}
 + 
 +Timing Chain sprocket fits over the snout
 +<br>{{Album|30409}}
= Flywheel Bolts = = Flywheel Bolts =
The flywheel bolts are special washerless bolts, do not use generic bolts. The flywheel bolts are special washerless bolts, do not use generic bolts.
- Buy at [http://www.datsun1200.asia/search?q=flywheel&search_button.x=0&search_button.y=0 Bprojects]+Buy at [[Bprojects]]
- +<br>{{Album|26245}}
-<img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/26245.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26245 album]+
* 3/8 inch bolts: 1966-1973 crank uses Imperial system 3/8" x 24 UNF bolts * 3/8 inch bolts: 1966-1973 crank uses Imperial system 3/8" x 24 UNF bolts
* 10mm bolts: 1974-up crank uses Metric M10 1.25 bolts (from '73-7) * 10mm bolts: 1974-up crank uses Metric M10 1.25 bolts (from '73-7)
- * ARP bolts - buy at [http://www.datsun1200.asia/search?q=flywheel&search_button.x=0&search_button.y=0 Bprojects] 
- 12315-H1001 BOLT-FLY WHEEL 6 B110 MANUAL - $4.38 + 12315-H1001 BOLT-FLY WHEEL 6 B110 MANUAL $4.38
- 12315-H1000 BOLT-FLY WHEEL 6 B110 AUTOMATIC - $3.51 + 12315-H1000 BOLT-FLY WHEEL 6 B110 AUTOMATIC $3.51
- 12330-20300 PILOT-CONVERTER B110 AUTOMATIC - $18.66 + 12330-20300 PILOT-CONVERTER B110 AUTOMATIC $18.66
- 12333-20300 PLATE-CRANK CONVERTER B110 AUTOMATIC - $9.44+ 12333-20300 PLATE-CRANK CONVERTER B110 AUTOMATIC $9.44
Hex head: 14 mm Hex head: 14 mm
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1966-1973: crank uses english-system 3/8" x 24 UNF bolts 1966-1973: crank uses english-system 3/8" x 24 UNF bolts
* 12315-18001 BOLT-flywheel & drive plate 6 A10 (requires washers) * 12315-18001 BOLT-flywheel & drive plate 6 A10 (requires washers)
- * 12315-H1001 BOLT-FLYWHEEL 6 MANUAL (3/8")+ ** {{Ref|12314-18001|}} WASHER-flywheel for A10 only
- * Will ARP 206-2802 work? For BMC A-series engines + ** {{Ref|12314-18002|}} WASHER-flywheel (from engine # A10-87871)
 + * 12315-H1001 BOLT-FLYWHEEL 6 MANUAL (3/8", uses no washers)
 + * ARP bolts - buy at [[Bprojects]]
 + * Will [[ARP]] 206-2802 work? For BMC A-series engines
(UHL Under Head Length 0.900") $18 USD/set of 6 (UHL Under Head Length 0.900") $18 USD/set of 6
 + * [[Flywheel#High_Strength_Bolts|Pitroad-ARP bolts]]
1974-up: crank uses Metric M10 x 1.25 bolts (from '73-7) 1974-up: crank uses Metric M10 x 1.25 bolts (from '73-7)
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(UHL Under Head Length 1.050") $22 USD/set of 8 (UHL Under Head Length 1.050") $22 USD/set of 8
- 26 Washer for A10 flywheel bolts only (6 needed)+26 Washer for A10 flywheel bolts only (6 needed)
- * 12314-18002 WASHER-flywheel+<br>{{Album|26242}}
- [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26242 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/26242.jpg]+
- '62' bolts for metric cranks+Imperial flywheel bolts - heads unmarked
- [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23498 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/23498.jpg]+<br>{{Album|26244}}
-<img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/26243.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26243 album]+'62' bolts for metric cranks
- +<br>{{Album|26243}} {{Album|23498}}
- Imperial flywheel bolts - heads unmarked+
- <img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/26244.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=26244 album]+
= Misc = = Misc =
Also see: [[Bored And Stroked]] for crankshaft modifications you can perform at home. Also see: [[Bored And Stroked]] for crankshaft modifications you can perform at home.
 +* Twin-carb engine ([[Hitachi Twin Carb|A12GX, A12T and A14T]]) crankshafts are the same as a standard engines.
 +
 +* 1974-up cranks use metric flywheel bolts. Early engines used British threads. See [[A Engine Redesign]]
Apparently there are two forgings of crankshaft: Apparently there are two forgings of crankshaft:
-* Heavy duty 
-*: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18244 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18244.jpg] 
-* Light weight: thinner straight sided counterweights that also have small scallops out of them. Late model factory crank (from B310 Sunny) 
-*: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17135 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/17135.jpg] 
-* Twin-carb engine ([[Hitachi Twin Carb|A12GX, A12T and A14T]]) crankshafts are the same as a standard engines.+Heavy duty
 +<br>{{Album|18244}}
-* 1974-up cranks use metric flywheel bolts. Early engines used British threads. See [[A Engine Redesign]]+Light weight: thinner counterweights that also have small scallops out of them. Late model factory crank (from B310 Sunny)
-* Front bolt, that holds the front pulley on, is: +<br>{{Album|17135}}
-** Part Number: 12309-78200 ($4.58) + 
-** M16 x 1.50 (fine) pitch + Front bolt, that holds the front pulley on, is:
-** 15mm diameter + * Part Number: 12309-78200 ($4.58)
-** 27mm long + * M16 x 1.50 (fine) pitch
-** The head is ?mm hex and about 15 mm thick. + * 15mm diameter
-** Torque specification: 15-16 kg/m (108-116 ft. lb.)+ * 27mm long
 + * The head is ?mm hex and about 15 mm thick.
 + * Torque specification: 15-16 kg/m (108-116 ft. lb.)
= Identification = = Identification =
-A12: 12200-H5000/12200-H5001 < 12200-H1000/12200-H1001 -7909+A12: 70mm H50 & H10 straight crank throws
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18244 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18244.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/crank.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_crank.jpg] [http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/chrislyons8/Crankshaft1.jpg http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/chrislyons8/th_Crankshaft1.jpg] [http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/chrislyons8/Crankshaft2.jpg http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/chrislyons8/th_Crankshaft2.jpg] [http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/chrislyons8/Crankshaft3.jpg http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/chrislyons8/th_Crankshaft3.jpg]+<br>{{Album|18244}}
-A12/A13 70mm 9.51 kg scalloped crank throws, 12200-H8560/12200-H8500 7910- <2,0> 12200-H5001+A12/[[New_A13|A13]] H85 70mm scalloped crank throws
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17135 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/17135.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17136 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/17136.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18243 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/18243.jpg] +<br>{{Album|17135}}
-A14 H62 12200-H6200 starting 1973 -7909+[[A14]] 77mm H62 1973-1978 straight crank throws
-<br>[http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/A14CrankshaftH6240.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_A14CrankshaftH6240.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/A14Crankshaft1.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_A14Crankshaft1.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8966 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/8966.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8967 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/8967.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11418 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/11418.jpg] +<br>{{Photo|A14CrankshaftH6240.jpg|Datsun%201200/wiki}} {{Photo|A14Crankshaft1.jpg|Datsun%201200/wiki}}
-A14 H89, scalloped crank throws, 12200-H8900 starting 0879 <> 12200-H6200+{{Main|A14 Crankshaft}}
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=25674 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/25674.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=25673 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/25673.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3949 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/3949.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3950 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/3950.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14241 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/14241.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14535 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/14535.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17137 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/17137.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/G34.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_G34.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/a14-crank.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_a14-crank.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/H89-crank.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_H89-crank.jpg]+
-G34 block with scalloped crankshaft+A14 77mm H89 scalloped crank throws 1979-
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=253963#forumpost253963 http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff245/chrislyons8/Chris%20and%20Dans%20Saturday%20Haul/th_UNDERSIDEsml.jpg]+<br>{{Album|14241}} {{Photo|H89-crank.jpg|Datsun%201200/wiki}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6110 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/6110.jpg]+[[A15]] 12200-G3400 MT, 12200-H9700 AT
 +<br>{{Photo|A15crank-1.jpg|Datsun%201200/wiki}} {{Photo|A15crank-2.jpg|Datsun%201200/wiki}}
-A15 12200-G3400 MT, 12200-H9700 AT+== H10 ==
-<br>[http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/A15crank-1.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_A15crank-1.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/A15crank-2.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_A15crank-2.jpg]+A12 70mm H50 & H10
 + 12200-H1000/12200-H1001 -7909
 + 12200-H5000/12200-H5001
 +{{Album|18244}} {{Photo|crank.jpg|Datsun%201200/wiki}}
- A14 +{{PB2.|ff245|chrislyons8||Crankshaft1.jpg}} {{PB2.|ff245|chrislyons8||Crankshaft2.jpg}} {{PB2.|ff245|chrislyons8||Crankshaft3.jpg}}
- M23 F10+ 
- M49 F10+== H85 ==
 +A12/A13 70mm scalloped crank throws (9.51 kg) lightweight but strong
 + 
 + 12200-H8560/12200-H8500 7910- > (can replace) 12200-H5001
 +{{Album|17135}}
 + 
 +{{Album|18243}} {{AlbumH|17136|jpg|300}}
= Crankshaft Pulley = = Crankshaft Pulley =
-See [[Crankshaft Pulley]]+{{Main|Crankshaft Pulley}}
 + 
 +{{Album!|20598}}
= Lightened Crankshaft = = Lightened Crankshaft =
-Discussion: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=37775&forum=1 JTS Cranks]+Discussion: [{{Post|234575}} JTS Cranks]
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=5538 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/5538.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=7306 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/7306.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8478 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/8478.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8479 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/8479.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8617 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/8617.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9665 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/9665.jpg]+Race-prepped cranks are often:
 +* Relieved/polished to reduce chance of cracking
 +* Lightened for quicker acceleration
 +* Knife-edge for reduced windage friction
 + 
 +Race-prepped A-series crank:
 +<br>{{Album|7306}} {{Album|19814}} {{Album|5538}} {{Album|8478}} {{Album|8479}} {{Album|8617}} {{Album|9665}}
 + 
 +A12 crank lightened & edged
 +<br>{{PB2|ff245|chrislyons8|Red%20B10|3.jpg}}
A14 knife-edged A14 knife-edged
-<br>[http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/A14_crank-1.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_A14_crank-1.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/A14_crank-2.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_A14_crank-2.jpg]+<br>{{Photo|A14_crank-1.jpg|Datsun%201200/wiki}} {{Photo|A14_crank-2.jpg|Datsun%201200/wiki}}
= Counterweighted Cranks = = Counterweighted Cranks =
All A-series crankshafts are counterweighted and will rev smoothly to 8500+ RPM. All A-series crankshafts are counterweighted and will rev smoothly to 8500+ RPM.
-Here is [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=130357#forumpost130357 the difference] between counterweighted and "fully counterweighted" (L/Z cranks shown):+Stock crank is counterweighted: there are four counterweights, one for each crank throw:
-<br><img size=400>http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k45/b120dat/Picture175.jpg</img>+<br>{{Album|17133}}
-Fully counterweighted means each journal has it's own counterweights. Theoretically it means better torsional vibration control.+A12 "fully" counterweighted billet {{web|www.pitroad-ts.com/A-parts-2/engine/crankshaft-full.htm|Pitroad A12 Crankshaft}}
 +<br>{{ExtPhoto|http://www.pitroad-ts.com/A-parts/engine|a12crank-2.jpg}}
 + 
 +Fully counterweighted means each journal has two counterweights. Theoretically it means better torsional vibration control. A regular counterweighted crank accelerates faster and has less friction, so a heavier fully counterweighted crank should only be used where torsion vibration is a known problem.
 + 
 +Here is the difference between counterweighted and "fully counterweighted" (L/Z cranks shown): [{{Post|130357}} Lseries Power Time]
 +<br>{{PB2.|k45|b120dat||Picture175.jpg}}
Either way, both types of Datsun cranks are precision balanced from the factory. Either way, both types of Datsun cranks are precision balanced from the factory.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17133 A15 crank] is fully counterweighted: there are four counterweights, one for each crank throw.+<blockquote>Smaller counterweights == smaller crankcase</blockquote>
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/17133.jpg</img>+
-In comparison, the E16 crank has two counterweights per crank throw, which helps reduce the overall diameter of the crank. +The E16 crank has a much larger stroke, so it uses two counterweights per crank throw, which helps reduce the overall diameter of the crank.
-<br>Smaller counterweights == smaller crankcase.+
-A12 full counter Billet [http://www.pitroad-ts.com/A-parts-2/engine/crankshaft-full.htm Pitroad A12 Crankshaft] 
-<br><img size=400>http://www.pitroad-ts.com/A-parts/engine/a12crank-2.jpg</img> 
<blockquote>Of full counter crank benefits advantageous to the vibration reduction high-speed and high output, disadvantage weight increase and manufacturing cost. Crankshaft for race for achieving both the lightweight and stiffness UP is <blockquote>Of full counter crank benefits advantageous to the vibration reduction high-speed and high output, disadvantage weight increase and manufacturing cost. Crankshaft for race for achieving both the lightweight and stiffness UP is
<br> <br>
<br>[downside] 800 g weight increase</blockquote> <br>[downside] 800 g weight increase</blockquote>
 +
 +{{Album|23985}} {{Album|23984}}
= Seals = = Seals =
- See main article: [[Crankshaft Seal]]+{{Main|Crankshaft Seal}}
 + 
 += Oil Thrower =
 +The thrower (oil slinger) goes over the front snout of the crank, after the [[Timing Chain]] set is placed, and before the [[Timing Cover]] is installed/
 + 
 +The slinger's job is to keep oil away from the crankshaft oil seal. The cupped side faces the timing chain to "throw" oil back towards the chain.
 + 
 +{{searchPart|12302-18000}} THROWER-OIL CRANKSHAFT 1 A12 - $1.57
 +<br>{{Album|28574}} {{Album|28575}}
 + 
 +timing chain sprocket and OIL THROWER. The curved side goes toward the block, flat side toward the front.
 +<br>{{Album|30407}}
 + 
 += Specs =
 + from {{1973SM}} <i>Figure EM-58 Crankshaft</i>
 + Main journal diameter 49.951-49.964 mm
 + Main journal width 27.00-27.05 mm
 + crankpin diameter 44.961-44.974 mm
= Part Numbers = = Part Numbers =
 + 12200-H5000 CRANKSHAFT A12
12200-H8500 CRANKSHAFT ASSY B310 A12S, A13S 12200-H8500 CRANKSHAFT ASSY B310 A12S, A13S
12200-H8515 A12/A12A CRANKSHAFT 70mm/2.76" stroke 12200-H8515 A12/A12A CRANKSHAFT 70mm/2.76" stroke
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BEARINGS BEARINGS
- * See main article: [[Bearings]]+{{Main|Bearings}}
SEAL, Front SEAL, Front
- See main article: [[Crankshaft Seal]]+{{Main|Crankshaft Seal}}
SEAL, Rear SEAL, Rear
- See main article: [[Crankshaft Seal]]+{{Main|Crankshaft Seal}}
PILOT BUSHING PILOT BUSHING
- * see [[Pilot Bushing]]+{{Main|Pilot Bushing}}
- SLINGER+ OIL SLINGER: see [[#Oil Thrower]]
- 12302-18000 THROWER-OIL CRANKSHAFT 1 A12 - $1.57 +
- FLYWHEEL BOLTS - see [[Crankshaft#Flywheel Bolts]]+ FLYWHEEL BOLTS: see [[#Flywheel Bolts]]
= Damage = = Damage =
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<blockquote>I started to hear a hell of a noise and shaking under acceleration and reving ... the flywheel bolts have given up the ghost.</blockquote> <blockquote>I started to hear a hell of a noise and shaking under acceleration and reving ... the flywheel bolts have given up the ghost.</blockquote>
-For best practices, see [[Flywheel#Bolts]].+For best practices, see [[#Flywheel Bolts]].
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=398178#forumpost398178 Flywheel bolts failure - crank now needs repair]+[[{{Post|395579}} Flywheel bolts failure\fix\questions]
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24122 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24122.jpg]+<br>{{Album|24122}} {{Album|24123}} {{Album|24124}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24123 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24123.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24124 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24124.jpg]+
== Cracked Crank == == Cracked Crank ==
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* Dropping the crank during or before engine assembly * Dropping the crank during or before engine assembly
* Unbalanced engine. After replacing a piston, a rod or the crank, have the engine re-balanced * Unbalanced engine. After replacing a piston, a rod or the crank, have the engine re-balanced
-* Detonation (pinking) can put massive stresses on the engine+* [[Pinging]] (detonation) can put massive stresses on the engine
-The forging line can be seen in this photo+The thick forging line can be seen in this photo
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19917 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19917.jpg]+<br>{{AlbumH|19917|jpg|318}} {{Album|19916}}
-[[Category:Engine Mechanical]]+[[Category:Engine Mechanical]]{{End}}

Current revision

<-- back to Engine

The crankshaft is interchangeable between early A12, A12GX, late A12, late A13 and A12A. Only the flywheel bolts differ, using metric bolts starting with the A-engine Redesign.

Contents

Overview

17133.jpgAlbum 17133

All Datsun A-series crankshafts are forged, and stroke comes in four sizes:

* 70mm (2.76 in.) stroke: A12/A12A/A13(1980)
* 77mm (3.03 in.) stroke: A13(1974)/A14
* 82mm (3.23 in.) stroke: A15 

Crankshaft Stroke:
14241.jpg

Bare crank
30408.jpgAlbum 30408

Timing Chain sprocket fits over the snout
30409.jpgAlbum 30409

Flywheel Bolts

The flywheel bolts are special washerless bolts, do not use generic bolts.

Buy at Bprojects
26245.jpgAlbum 26245

* 3/8 inch bolts: 1966-1973 crank uses Imperial system 3/8" x 24 UNF bolts
* 10mm bolts: 1974-up crank uses Metric M10 1.25 bolts (from '73-7)
12315-H1001 BOLT-FLY WHEEL 6 B110 MANUAL $4.38 
12315-H1000 BOLT-FLY WHEEL 6 B110 AUTOMATIC $3.51 
12330-20300 PILOT-CONVERTER B110 AUTOMATIC $18.66 
12333-20300 PLATE-CRANK CONVERTER B110 AUTOMATIC $9.44
Hex head: 14 mm
Thread length: 20mm
Head bottom length: 22mm
Whole length: 29mm
1966-1973: crank uses english-system 3/8" x 24 UNF bolts 
* 12315-18001 BOLT-flywheel & drive plate 6 A10 (requires washers)
** 12314-18001 WASHER-flywheel for A10 only
** 12314-18002 WASHER-flywheel (from engine # A10-87871)
* 12315-H1001 BOLT-FLYWHEEL 6 MANUAL (3/8", uses no washers)
* ARP bolts - buy at Bprojects
* Will ARP 206-2802 work? For BMC A-series engines
  (UHL Under Head Length 0.900") $18 USD/set of 6
* Pitroad-ARP bolts
1974-up: crank uses Metric M10 x 1.25 bolts (from '73-7)
* A12,A13,A14,A12A,A15
* 12315-H6900 BOLT-FLYWHEEL 6 (10mm) $4.83 USD > 12315-H6200
* Will ARP 203-2802 work? For 4AGE engines 
  (UHL Under Head Length 1.050") $22 USD/set of 8

26 Washer for A10 flywheel bolts only (6 needed)
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Imperial flywheel bolts - heads unmarked
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'62' bolts for metric cranks
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Misc

Also see: Bored And Stroked for crankshaft modifications you can perform at home.

  • 1974-up cranks use metric flywheel bolts. Early engines used British threads. See A Engine Redesign

Apparently there are two forgings of crankshaft:

Heavy duty
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Light weight: thinner counterweights that also have small scallops out of them. Late model factory crank (from B310 Sunny)
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Front bolt, that holds the front pulley on, is: 
* Part Number: 12309-78200 ($4.58) 
* M16 x 1.50 (fine) pitch 
* 15mm diameter 
* 27mm long 
* The head is ?mm hex and about 15 mm thick. 
* Torque specification: 15-16 kg/m (108-116 ft. lb.)

Identification

A12: 70mm H50 & H10 straight crank throws
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A12/A13 H85 70mm scalloped crank throws
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A14 77mm H62 1973-1978 straight crank throws
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A14 77mm H89 scalloped crank throws 1979-
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A15 12200-G3400 MT, 12200-H9700 AT
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H10

A12 70mm H50 & H10

12200-H1000/12200-H1001 -7909
12200-H5000/12200-H5001

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H85

A12/A13 70mm scalloped crank throws (9.51 kg) lightweight but strong

12200-H8560/12200-H8500 7910- > (can replace) 12200-H5001

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Crankshaft Pulley

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Lightened Crankshaft

Discussion: POST JTS Cranks

Race-prepped cranks are often:

  • Relieved/polished to reduce chance of cracking
  • Lightened for quicker acceleration
  • Knife-edge for reduced windage friction

Race-prepped A-series crank:
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A12 crank lightened & edged
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A14 knife-edged
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Counterweighted Cranks

All A-series crankshafts are counterweighted and will rev smoothly to 8500+ RPM.

Stock crank is counterweighted: there are four counterweights, one for each crank throw:
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A12 "fully" counterweighted billet Pitroad A12 Crankshaft
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Fully counterweighted means each journal has two counterweights. Theoretically it means better torsional vibration control. A regular counterweighted crank accelerates faster and has less friction, so a heavier fully counterweighted crank should only be used where torsion vibration is a known problem.

Here is the difference between counterweighted and "fully counterweighted" (L/Z cranks shown): POST Lseries Power Time
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Either way, both types of Datsun cranks are precision balanced from the factory.

Smaller counterweights == smaller crankcase

The E16 crank has a much larger stroke, so it uses two counterweights per crank throw, which helps reduce the overall diameter of the crank.

Of full counter crank benefits advantageous to the vibration reduction high-speed and high output, disadvantage weight increase and manufacturing cost. Crankshaft for race for achieving both the lightweight and stiffness UP is

[downside] 800 g weight increase

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Seals

Oil Thrower

The thrower (oil slinger) goes over the front snout of the crank, after the Timing Chain set is placed, and before the Timing Cover is installed/

The slinger's job is to keep oil away from the crankshaft oil seal. The cupped side faces the timing chain to "throw" oil back towards the chain.

12302-18000 THROWER-OIL CRANKSHAFT 1 A12 - $1.57
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timing chain sprocket and OIL THROWER. The curved side goes toward the block, flat side toward the front.
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Specs

from 1973 Datsun 1200 Service Manual Figure EM-58 Crankshaft
Main journal diameter  49.951-49.964 mm
Main journal width     27.00-27.05 mm
crankpin diameter      44.961-44.974 mm

Part Numbers

12200-H5000 CRANKSHAFT A12
12200-H8500 CRANKSHAFT ASSY B310 A12S, A13S 
12200-H8515 A12/A12A CRANKSHAFT 70mm/2.76" stroke
12200-H5720 A12 COMPETITION CRANKSHAFT 70mm/2.76" stroke
12200-H8915 A13/A14 CRANKSHAFT 77mm/3.03" stroke
* Weight 26.2 lbs
12200-G3400 A15 CRANKSHAFT 82mm/3.23" stroke
Old Numbers:
12200-H1000 ASSY-CRANKSHAFT 1 A12 MANUAL - $624.02 
12200-H1001 CRANKSHAFT 1 A12 -671 12 12200-H1000 superceded 
12200-H1000 CRANKSHAFT 1 A12 0671- 2 12200-H1001 superceded 
12200-H5000 CRANKSHAFT 1 A12 0572- 2 12200-H1000 $624.02 
BEARINGS
Main: Bearings
SEAL, Front
SEAL, Rear
PILOT BUSHING 
OIL SLINGER: see #Oil Thrower
FLYWHEEL BOLTS: see #Flywheel Bolts

Damage

Flywheel Loosening

The Datsun factory balanced every engine. But when parts are changed, it will get out of balance. In worst case scenario, this leads to shaking and eventual loosening of the flywheel bolts.

I started to hear a hell of a noise and shaking under acceleration and reving ... the flywheel bolts have given up the ghost.

For best practices, see #Flywheel Bolts.

[POST Flywheel bolts failure\fix\questions
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Cracked Crank

All A-series crankshafts are forged, but can still crack if abused.

Causes:

  • Dropping the crank during or before engine assembly
  • Unbalanced engine. After replacing a piston, a rod or the crank, have the engine re-balanced
  • Pinging (detonation) can put massive stresses on the engine

The thick forging line can be seen in this photo
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