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[[Category:Propeller Shaft And Differential Carrier]] [[Category:Propeller Shaft And Differential Carrier]]
-The Datsun 1200 used a leaf-spring live axle with an H145 differential. This is a Hitachi design with 145mm ring gear (5.71 inch). It is a lightweight unit suitable to handle the torque from an A12 engine. Light weight is good, remember that heavy parts take more horsepower to accelerate. Some Australian-assembled B110s used a [[Borg_Warner_Differential|Borg Warner Model 60]] rear axle. All Datsun 1200 utes (trucks) used the stronger [[H165]] rear axle assembly.+The Datsun 1200 used a leaf-spring live axle with an H145 differential. This is a Hitachi design with 145mm ring gear (5.71 inch). It is a lightweight unit suitable to handle the torque from an A12 engine. Light weight is good, remember that heavy parts take more horsepower to accelerate. The complete assembly (housing, differential, etc) is know as the Rear Axle Assembly. Some Australian-assembled B110s used a [[Borg_Warner_Differential|Borg Warner Model 60]] rear axle. All Datsun 1200 utes (trucks) used the stronger [[H165]] rear axle assembly.
= Differential = = Differential =
-The [[Differential]] is the part in the center of the [[Rear Axle|rear axle assembly]]. Also known as the "Gear carrier assembly", "pumpkin", "center" or "diff head". It has two purposes: 1) reduce the speed ("rear gearing") and 2) equalize power distribution to left and right wheels even when turning corners (differential).+The '''Differential''' is the part in the center of the [[Rear Axle|rear axle assembly]]. Also known as the "Gear carrier assembly", "pumpkin", "center" or "diff head". It has two purposes: 1) reduce the speed ("rear gearing") and 2) equalize power distribution to left and right wheels even when turning corners (differential).
The gear reduction is accomplished by the Ring & Pinion gearset a.k.a. (Crown Ring and Pinion (CRP). The differential action is enabled by the spider gears. The gear reduction is accomplished by the Ring & Pinion gearset a.k.a. (Crown Ring and Pinion (CRP). The differential action is enabled by the spider gears.
 +
 +See main articles: [[H145]] and [[H165]]
= Specifications = = Specifications =
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* 3.90:1 ratio - sedans and coupes * 3.90:1 ratio - sedans and coupes
* 4.11:1 ratio - [[VB110]] wagons with aluminum gear case * 4.11:1 ratio - [[VB110]] wagons with aluminum gear case
-* 4.11:1 ratio - [[B120]] Truck+* 4.11:1 ratio - [[B120]] Truck [[H165]]
* Ring gear diameter: 145mm (5.71 inch) * Ring gear diameter: 145mm (5.71 inch)
* Torque Rating: about 100 lb. ft. * Torque Rating: about 100 lb. ft.
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Weight Weight
-* H145: 42kg+* [[H145]]: 42kg
-* H165: 52kg+* [[H165]]: 52kg
= Maintenance = = Maintenance =
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Sedan axle housing has no welded-on leaf perches. The others do. Plus other small differences. Sedan axle housing has no welded-on leaf perches. The others do. Plus other small differences.
-= Best Ratio for a Ute =+= Best Ratio =
-The Datsun 1200 truck comes with a 4.11 ratio. This is excellent for acceleration, but some feel it is too low for highway driving. Rest assured, the A12 engine can run at 110 kph all day long even with the 4.11 gears.+1200 sedans and coupe come with 3.90 ratio. This is the best all-around ratio for the stock-diameter tires, balancing enough torque for take-off with highway speeds. Top speed is 90 mph with the 3.90 ratio.
-Or you can change the gears. Read this dicussion: [url=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3010]starting at Post 11[/url].+The Datsun 1200 truck comes with a 4.11 ratio for extra torque taking off and pulling loads up hills. This is excellent for acceleration, but some feel it is too low for highway driving. Rest assured, the A12 engine can run at 110 kph all day long even with the 4.11 gears.
 + 
 +Or you can change the gears. Read this discussion: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3010 starting at Post 11].
The Ute uses the [[H165]] gears. See [[H165]] for more information about ratios and donor cars. The Ute uses the [[H165]] gears. See [[H165]] for more information about ratios and donor cars.
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-= Gear Sets = 
- B110 - Datsun 1200 1971-1973 3.90  
- B110 Wagon 4.11 
- 
- B10 - Datsun 1000 1967-1970 4.11  
- B10 wagon (VB10) with alloy carrier - 4.375  
- 
- B210 - 1974 3.90 (north american)  
- 
-Datsun Competition (later Nismo) used to sell various ratios: 3.9, 4.111, 4.375, 4.625 for the H145.  
- 
- B10 Datsun 1000 H145 alloy carrier 
- 38310-18000 COMP.-CARRIER, gear ALL 
- * 38315-18000 STUD (fixing differential bearing cap) 4 ALL 
- * 38317-18000 WASHER (fixing differential bearing cap) 4 ALL 
- * 38318-18000 NUT (fixing differential bearing cap) 4 ALL 
- 
- B10 Datsun 1000 H145 gear sets (will fit all Datsun 1200) 
- 38100-18000 JDM SET-GEAR, hypoid with pinion (37 T: 9 T) [4.11] Sedan & Coupe 
- 38100-H0700 JDM SET-GEAR, hypoid with pinion (35 T: 8 T) [4.375] Van 
- * superceded 38100-18100  
- 38100-15400 JDM SET-GEAR, hypoid with pinion (37 T: 8 T) [4.625] Truck 
- 38100-G0400 JDM SET-GEAR, hypoid with pinion (37 T: 8 T) [4.625] Truck (from '69-Nov) 
- 
- Datsun 1200 gear sets 
- 38100-H1000 3.900 R&P SET Sedan & Coupe 
- 38100-H1100 4.111 R&P SET Van 
- 
- Datsun B120 (1200 Sunny Truck) gear sets - [[H165]] (HC41) 
- [[H165|Type I carriers]] 
- * 38100-28500 4.111 HYPOID GEAR & PINION SET (37/9) (to '72-12) 
- * 38100-N5200 4.111 HYPOID GEAR & PINION SET (37/9) (from '73-1 to 7906) 
- Type II carriers 
- * 38100-W9000 4.111 GEAR SET-FINAL DRIVE 7907-8605 
- * 38100-G3300 4.111 GEAR SET-FINAL DRIVE 8605- 
= Differential Repair = = Differential Repair =
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= Bumpers = = Bumpers =
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Coupe & Van rear suspension bumper (above the [[Leaf Spring]]) Coupe & Van rear suspension bumper (above the [[Leaf Spring]])
55240-H1400 ASSY-BUMPER REAR AXLE 55240-H1400 ASSY-BUMPER REAR AXLE
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55240-H1001 BOUND BUMPER A 55240-H1001 BOUND BUMPER A
56124-H1001 BOUND-BUMPER B 56124-H1001 BOUND-BUMPER B
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= Pinion Snubber = = Pinion Snubber =
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Datsun 1200 was not offered with a limited-slip differential, however Datsun Competition sold an LSD for the H145. This part is NLA, however it may be found occasionally in specialty shops or on eBay. Datsun 1200 was not offered with a limited-slip differential, however Datsun Competition sold an LSD for the H145. This part is NLA, however it may be found occasionally in specialty shops or on eBay.
-= Nissan Competition =+See main article: [[Limited Slip]]
-From the [[1984 Nissan Competition Catalog]]+
- +
-* H145A RING & PINION SET (TO 8/74)+
-** 38100-H1000 3.900 R&P SET+
-** 38100-H1100 4.111 R&P SET+
-** 38100-H0700 4.375 R&P SET+
-** 38100-G0400 4.625 R&P SET+
- +
-* [[LSD|H145A LIMITED-SLIP ASSY (TO 8/74)]]+
- +
-* H145A DIFFERENTIAL ASSY+
-*: The H145A 3rd members will fit the 1200 and B210 (to 8/74) and do <strong>not</strong> include limited slip units.+
-** 38300-H1000 3.900 3RD MEMBER+
-** 38300-H1100 4.111 3RD MEMBER+
-** 38300-H0700 4.375 3RD MEMBER+
-** 38300-G0500 4.625 3RD MEMBER+
- +
-* [[Diff Baffles|H145A AXLE BAFFLES]]+
-* [[Differential Oil Cooler Assy]]+

Revision as of 23:28, 30 October 2012


The Datsun 1200 used a leaf-spring live axle with an H145 differential. This is a Hitachi design with 145mm ring gear (5.71 inch). It is a lightweight unit suitable to handle the torque from an A12 engine. Light weight is good, remember that heavy parts take more horsepower to accelerate. The complete assembly (housing, differential, etc) is know as the Rear Axle Assembly. Some Australian-assembled B110s used a Borg Warner Model 60 rear axle. All Datsun 1200 utes (trucks) used the stronger H165 rear axle assembly.

Contents

Differential

The Differential is the part in the center of the rear axle assembly. Also known as the "Gear carrier assembly", "pumpkin", "center" or "diff head". It has two purposes: 1) reduce the speed ("rear gearing") and 2) equalize power distribution to left and right wheels even when turning corners (differential).

The gear reduction is accomplished by the Ring & Pinion gearset a.k.a. (Crown Ring and Pinion (CRP). The differential action is enabled by the spider gears.

See main articles: H145 and H165

Specifications

Also see: Rear Suspension Specifications

  • 3.90:1 ratio - sedans and coupes
  • 4.11:1 ratio - VB110 wagons with aluminum gear case
  • 4.11:1 ratio - B120 Truck H165
  • Ring gear diameter: 145mm (5.71 inch)
  • Torque Rating: about 100 lb. ft.
  • Axle assembly width: 1305 mm drum-to-drum


Weight

Maintenance

The stock Datsun 1200 differential is a reliable, long lasting part behind an A12 or A13 engine.

  1. As long as it doesn't run dry on gear lube it will usually last forever. So check it every few months for signs of leaking.
  2. The only common maintenance is to pack the rear wheel bearings every two years or so. This will also keep the bearings quiet and reduce gear lube leakage into the brake area.

Differential Lubricant

Since the differential is a typical hypoid-gear unit, you can use any lubricant designed for such:

  • the traditional "90 weight" gear oil
  • the newer 75W-140 or 85W-140 multi-weight gear oil

For maximum fuel economy, use a modern multi-weight gear oil. Otherwise use this chart to select a single-weight oil:
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1972 Nissan Specification
* API GL-4 
* MIL-L-2105 
Such as:
* Chevron Multiservice Gear Lub. 75,80,90,140
* Esso Gear Oil GP 80,90,140
* Mobil Mobilube EP or GX 80-90,90,140
* Shell Spirax 75EP,80EP,90EP,140EP
* Sunoco Multipurpose Gear Lub. GL-4 80,90,140
* Texaco Universal Gear Lub. EP 80,90,140

1972 USA Owners manual (Page 23)

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Recommended Lubricants

GL-4 vs GL-5

The differential can use a GL-4 oil, same as the transmission lube.

GL-5 is now recommmended for the differential, but should not be used in the gearbox unless it is marked both GL-4 AND GL-5.

Nissan 1981 Specification
* API GL-5

Borg Warner Model 60

Australian-assembled B110s used a Borg Warner Model 60 rear axle, starting in Late 1971.

See main article: Borg Warner Differential

Leaf Spring Mounting

Sedan, Coupe, Wagon and Ute (Truck) all have different mounting points. See Leaf Springs

Swapping

Datsun 1200 Coupe, sedan, van, and ute housing are all just slightly different.

discussion in main forum

Sedan axle housing has no welded-on leaf perches. The others do. Plus other small differences.

Best Ratio

1200 sedans and coupe come with 3.90 ratio. This is the best all-around ratio for the stock-diameter tires, balancing enough torque for take-off with highway speeds. Top speed is 90 mph with the 3.90 ratio.

The Datsun 1200 truck comes with a 4.11 ratio for extra torque taking off and pulling loads up hills. This is excellent for acceleration, but some feel it is too low for highway driving. Rest assured, the A12 engine can run at 110 kph all day long even with the 4.11 gears.

Or you can change the gears. Read this discussion: starting at Post 11.

The Ute uses the H165 gears. See H165 for more information about ratios and donor cars.

Differential Repair

Replacing diff bearings or spider gears? Or ring & pinion? The procedure for re-assembly the differential gear carrier is very complicated. Be sure to get the factory service manual.

We recommend: Just swap the whole center section "pumpkin" from a 1971-1973 B110 or 1974 B210 in there. It will be cheaper and certainly easier, someone has one for free. The center section rarely goes bad unless the diff runs low on oil, so your chances of getting a good used one are high.

Yes, B110 and 1974 B210 center section is identical. You could also swap a 1975-1978 pumpkin they say you need a 2mm spacer between the pumpkin and the housing.

Bumpers

Coupe & Van rear suspension bumper (above the Leaf Spring)
55240-H1400 ASSY-BUMPER REAR AXLE
08911-64010 NUT-HEX M10X1.25
08915-14010 WASHER-SPRING LOCK
Sedan rear suspension bumper (on the Shocks)
55240-H1001 BOUND BUMPER A
56124-H1001 BOUND-BUMPER B

Pinion Snubber

The pinion snubber is a rubber bumper that prevents the differential from rotating too much under torque input.

Axles

Datsun 1200 -- both car H145 and truck H165 -- uses 23-spline axles. The truck axles are a larger diameter and so they do not interchange.

See main article: Axle Shaft

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Part Numbers

See the various related articles such as:

Limited Slip

Datsun 1200 was not offered with a limited-slip differential, however Datsun Competition sold an LSD for the H145. This part is NLA, however it may be found occasionally in specialty shops or on eBay.

See main article: Limited Slip