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CA-Series Engine Swaps

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-Swapping a [[wikipedia:Nissan CA engine]] into a Datsun 1200 is perhaps the most common swap. It provides abundant horsepower (up to 400 hp) in a small, lightweight package. The CA18DE is a dual overhead cam engine, while the CA18DET if a factory turbo engine. It will fit into the 1200 without cutting the firewall or body. You will additionally need a stronger rear axle assembly to cope with the extra torque that the CA-series puts out. On the down side, [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=33039&forum=1 quote]: "It does unbalance the car...lets not try to lie to ourselves."+Swapping a {{wiki|Nissan CA engine}} into a Datsun 1200 is perhaps the most common high-power swap. It provides abundant horsepower (up to 400 hp) in a small, lightweight package. The CA18DE is a dual overhead cam engine, while the CA18DET is the factory turbo version. It will fit into the 1200 without cutting the firewall or body. You will additionally need a stronger rear axle assembly to cope with the extra torque that the CA-series puts out. On the down side, [{{Post|198649}} quote]: "It does unbalance the car...lets not try to lie to ourselves."
-For information on choosing a rear axle, see [[Rear Axle Swaps]].+= Overview =
 +Internally stock CA18DET
 +<br>{{Album|21636}} {{Album|23821}}
 + 
 +Perfect fit for a 1200
 +<br>{{Album|10194}} {{Album|18393}}
 + 
 +CA16DE DOHC (Only available in FWD format)
 +<br>{{Album|3708}}
 + 
 +CA18ET SOHC Turbo (Single Overhead Cam)
 +<br>{{Album|4173}} {{Album|17773}}
 + 
 +CA18DET DOHC Turbo (Double Overhead Cam)
 +<br>{{Album|3669}} {{Album|1483}} {{Album|2229}} {{UploadPost|4562_4d9bfe7dca785.jpg|362711}}
 + 
 +CA20E SOHC - See main article: [[CA20]]
 +<br>{{Album|14472}} {{Album|14487}}
 + 
 += Which is better - SR or CA? =
 +{{SRvsCA}}
 + 
 +CA18ET - SOHC turbo
 +<br>{{Album|4717}}
= Cost = = Cost =
-Good used CA engines cost $400+ USD+* Good used CA engines cost $400+ USD
 +* S13/S14 Front-cut cost $1500-$2500 USD
 +* Entire package with CA18DET and intercooler, fitted by a professional shop cost $20,000 AUD
-Front-cut cost $1500-$2500 USD+ See:
 + * [{{Post|128031}} CA18 Aftermath cost]
 + * [{{Post|15173}} CA18's]
-Entire package with CA18DET and intercooler, fitted by a professional shop cost $20,000 AUD+CA18DE in Datsun 1200 wagon
 +<br>{{Album|24995}}
-See:+= Parts Needed =
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=24100&forum=1 CA18 Aftermath cost]+ * Engineer Certificate
 + * Labor: 40 hours
 + * S13 or S14 Silvia front cut (includes engine, 5-spd, and wiring harness)
 + * Hydraulic clutch conversion parts
 + * Custom Engine & Gearbox Mounts
 + * New Timing Belt
 + * S13 Radiator
 + * Bigger Diff (ute diff for stock CA18DET)
 + * Custom tailshaft
 + * Custom hosing for radiator and intercooler
 + * Custom Exhaust
 + * Wiring
 + * Fuel pump hosing filters, return line, surge tank
 + * Engine Oil & filter, Gearbox Oil, Coolant
-= Choose a CA engine =+ OPTIONAL
-* CA16DE (Only available in FWD format)+ * [[Stumpy]] gearbox
-* CA18E SOHC (Single Overhead Cam)+ * Auto [[tunnel]]
-* CA18ET SOHC Turbo+ * [[S13 Brakes]]
-*: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4173 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/4173.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17773 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/17773.jpg] +
-* CA18DE DOHC+
-* CA18DET+
-* CA20+
-= Choose a Transmission = += Step-by-step =
-You can use the typical CA18 gearbox. It is longer than a Datsun 1200 gearbox, so the shifter comes up about 4 inches aft of normal.+# Consult with Engineer (for AUS street-legal use)
 +# Purchase S13/S14 front car cut
 +# Test CA engine (compression test) & install new timing belt
 +# Inspect CA clutch
 +# Convert your 1200 to [[S13 Brakes]]
 +# Convert your 1200 to Hydraulic clutch
 +# Take 1200 out of service
 +## Convert your 1200 to stronger diff (ute diff for stock CA18DET)
 +## Remove engine & gearbox
 +## Cut hole in tunnel so large CA gearbox will fit
 +## Remove front suspension & crossmember
 +## Install new fuel system
 +## Jack up car, slide CA engine/gearbox assembly under
 +## Raise engine/gearbox assembly into place, fit crossmembers
 +## Reattach front suspension
 +## Install custom hydraulic clutch line to gearbox
 +## Install & plumb intercooler
 +## Install S13 radiator
 +## Add new fluids, oil & oil filter
 +## Measure transmission-to-diff, and order custom tailshaft
 +## Tow the car to exhaust shoppe for custom exhaust fitment
 +## wire up the engine
 +## Get final engineering certificate
-Or you can modify a L-series "stumpy" gearbox to fit the CA series front case. Then it bolts right in, shifter in the stock location for a 1200, and stock 1200 automatic driveshaft works too.+= 2-valve vs 4-valve =
 +The 4-valve CA is a very special engine. The extra valves make it breathe very, very well which mean a lot more HP. All CA Double Overhead Cam (DOHC) engines have 4 valves per cylinder -- it's worth seeking out over the older SOHC versions.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2118 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/2118.jpg] + * 2-valve CA18E 113 hp
 + * 4-valve CA18DE 131 hp
-== Stumpy Transmission ==+ 4-valve:
-Plus: fits stock shifter hole and uses stock 1200 driveshaft (automatic driveshaft)+ * CA16DE 122 hp
 + * CA18DE 131 hp
 + * CA18DET 167 hp turbo
-Minus: The stumpy uses the same cluster as the 280z 5spd, and while those are known for their durability, they don't shift as nicely and don't shift easilty above 5,000 RPM.+ 2-valve
 + * CA16S 80 hp
 + * CA16I
 + * CA18S 90hp (Single carb)
 + * CA18I 91 hp (single point EFI)
 + * CA18P (LPG)
 + * CA18E 113 hp (EGI/port injection) 113 hp
 + * CA18ET 135 hp
 + * CA20S 102 hp
 + * CA20E 105 hp
 +== CA20 and CA18 SOHC ==
 +CA18S/CA18E, CA18ET, and CA20S/CA20E are 2-valves per cylinder (8 valve head), so not as complicated as the DE models. However a CA20E turbo'd with stock rods will suffice for 300 HP if not taken beyond 6500rpm with 12psi. CA20 have around 9:1 compression.
 +The USA CAs have better made-in-Japan casted alloy heads; the made-in-Australia castings are reportedly not as good. Also CA20 twin sparks are so economical for a 2 liter they really are underrated -- the CA20-powered Stanza got 43 mpg with [[NAPS-X]].
 +CA20 with turbo added
 +<br>{{Thumb|14472}} {{Thumb|14487}} {{Thumb|14489}} {{Thumb|14486}}
-The stumpy Skyline gearbox, refers to the R30 Skylines with the L24 (six-cylinder) engines. The R30 came in sedan and hatchback styles.+Inexpensive factory Mitsubishi 4G63 conrods are easy to mod and fit for 300-450hp.
-You need a CA20 or CA18 gearbox to get the bellhousing (front case) to fit a CA18.+ 11041-D0202 HEAD ASSY-CYLINDER
 + * GC22.CA20S, C22.CA20
 + * C32.CA18I
 + * C33.CA18I
 + * M10.(CA18S+CA20S)
 + * R30.CA18S
 + * R31.CA18S
 + * R32.CA18I
 + * S12.CA18S
 + * T11.CA18
-To use the gearbox on a CA18, you must switch out the front section of the gearbox from a longer S13 gearbox, or a more common CA20 (e.g. 910 Bluebird Series 3) gearbox. There are conflicting reports about some of the swaps needing a different sized bearing to make this 'gearbox surgery' a success.+ GC22 JAPAN
 +
 + TRANSISTOR IGNITION UNIT
 + 22020-D0210 MITSUBISHI
 + * E24.Z20/WE24.Z20
 + * C22/GC22.CA20
 + * U12.CA16S
 + * 910.CA18
 + * M10.CA18S
 + * R30.CA18
 + * R31.CA18S
 + * S12.CA18
 + * T11/T12.CA16S
 + * U11.CA16+CA18S/CA18E
 + 22020-V5400 HITACHI <> 22020-V5401 Hitachi [[D4N]]
-Beware: if the bearing doesn't fit right, the box will not last a long time. If the bearing is spot-on it can last for years behind a CA18DET.+ CAP ASSY-DISTRIBUTOR
 + 22612-D0110 <> 22162-D0113 MITSUBISHI
 + * GC22.CA20S 8605-
 + 22162-D3302 <> 22162-D3303 HITACHI
 + * GC22.CA20S 8605-8906
-* CA20E front case on a stumpy box doesn't require a different bearing+ 8-Plug Distributor Cap interchange CA16/CA18/CA20 SOHC
-* CA18DET bellhousing on a stumpy box requires a spacer (or bearing change)+ Bosch 03183
 + Standard Motor Products JH186
 + * 22162-03E00/22162-03E01
 + * 22162-11C00/22162-11C01
 + * 22162-21R00
 + * 22162-D0200/22162-D2200/22162-D2201/22162-D2202
 + * 22162-11001
 + * 22162-21800
 + * 22162-D3300/22162-D3302/22162-D3303/22162-D3304
 + * 22162-D3501/22162-D3502
 +== 4-valve CA20 ==
 +It is possible to put a DE/DET head on a on CA20. See http://club-s12.org/v3/index.php?topic=23985.0
 + 269 HP
 + 85.55 mm cast pistons
 + stock CA20 rods, shot-peened
 + drill out the head bolt holes, re-tap for the larger CA18DE bolts
 + Turbo: Lancer EVO III TD05H-16G
 + timing belt: extensive mods
-Once modified, the "stumpy" transmission bolts right into the 1200, and the gearshift lever comes up in the right place. Other CA transmissions will require you to cut a new hole in the tunnel farther back.+== 8-port ==
 +USA and JDM CA16DE/CA18DE/CA18DET uses 8-port heads:
 +<br>{{Upload|10243_4dd5529b6b83b.jpg}}
-See:+There are two kinds of these heads:
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=22092&forum=1 Ca18DET and skyline 5speed install]+<br>{{Upload|10243_4dd552aec221c.jpg}}
-If you wonder why people go for the stumpy 5 speed - here is a comparison photo between (from right to left) a 56 series (A12 gearbox) a 60 series (A14/A15 gearbox) and the stumpy 5 speed.+== 4-port ==
 +Global right-hand drive market (Europe and Australia) use siamesed intake port (4-port) heads:
 +<br>{{Photo|Picture458.jpg}}
-[http://mildman.datsunprojects.org/otherimg/100_2710.jpg http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://mildman.datsunprojects.org/otherimg/100_2710.jpg]+{{Thumb|9547}} {{Thumb|9548}}
-There is also a bearing swap that needs to be made when putting an CA bellhousing on. See photo below+== Inlet Butterflies ==
 +The butterflies are important for torque below 4500rpms:
 +* If you are running after market ECU, and not programming the butterfly function in, then you may as well remove them.
 +* If you are running a light flywheel and are only interested in power between 5000-8000rpm, then pulling out the butterflies is a good idea.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/2382.jpg http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/2382.jpg]+== Carburetors ==
 +CA fitted with [[Bike Carbs]]
 +<br>{{Album|19513}}
-== S13 Silvia/180SX Transmission ==+CA16DE retro-fitted with carburetors
-- Manual tunnel needs pretty much all of tunnel replaced from 120Y, or 1200 Automatic tunnel.+<br>{{Album|1903}}
-- Most will need a box section cut into the shifter area to clear the shifter area on the gearbox.+
-== 910 5-Speed ==+= Donor Vehicles =
-Series 3 Bluebird (910) CA20E/CA20 5 Speed+== Japan ==
-- This is a straight fit, and for low power applications this is a cheap alternative. Especially if you can find a low milage example.+=== CA16 ===
 + B12 CA16D
 + B12L CA16D
 + KN13 CA16D
 + N13 CA16D
 + N13P CA16D
 + 910 CA16S
 + T11 CA16S
 + T12 CA16S
 + T12Y CA16S
 + U11 CA16S
 + U12 CA16S
-== Gearbox crossmembers ==+=== CA18DE ===
-All gearbox options for the CA will need you to fabricate (or get someone to fabricate) a new gearbox crossmember to attach the gearbox to the floor of your car. In the case of a stumpy 5 speed just a piece of 40mm box steel will do the job. Bolt it to the rubber mount of the stumpy and then bolt it to the floor - add some spacers as required. Here a pic of a crossmember I made. (It only gets wider at the edges as I had some existing holes in the floor of the Datto I wanted to use.)+ S13 CA18D
 + T12 CA18D
 + T12Y CA18D
 + U12 CA18D
-[http://mildman.datsunprojects.org/images/100_4647.JPG http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://mildman.datsunprojects.org/images/100_4647.JPG]+=== CA18DET ===
 + RWD
 + [[Silvia#S12|S12]] SILVIA 8308-8805 CA18DT 8602-8805
 + [[Silvia#S13|S13]] SILVIA 8805-9310 CA18DT 8805-9101
 + RS13 180SX 8903-9812 CA18DT 9803-9101
-[http://mildman.datsunprojects.org/images/100_4665.JPG http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=400&uri=http://mildman.datsunprojects.org/images/100_4665.JPG]+ FWD/AWD
 + T12 AUSTER 8510-8911 CA18DT 8510-
 + T12Y STANZA 8608-8911 CA18DT 8608-
 + U11 BLUEBIRD 8310-9005 CA18DT 8508-
 + U12 BLUEBIRD 8709-9108 CA18DT -8910
 + 
 + ALL S13/RS13 use [[COP|Coil On Plug]] ignition
 + * CA18DE and CA18DT (turbo)
 + 13287-51E00 ORNAMENT-ROCKER COVER CA18DT RS13
 + 22433-5960 COIL ASSY-IGNITION MITSUBISHI
 + <> 22433-59S10/22433-59S11/22433-59S12 HANJIN MCP-210
 + 
 + S12 & U11 CA18DET is distributorless
 + * uses 2-piece cover ornament
 + * 4 plug wires
 + * 4-terminal coil
 + * 22020-D4200 TRANSISTOR IGNITION UNIT Hitachi
 + 
 +Distributorless w/coil pack (not Coil on Plug)
 +<br>{{Album|9029}}
 + 
 +=== CA18 SOHC ===
 + 910 CA18E
 + R30 CA18E
 + S12 CA18E
 + T11 CA18E
 + U11 CA18E
 + C33 CA18I
 + R32 CA18I
 + T12 CA18I
 + T12Y CA18I
 + U12 CA18I
 + C32 CA18P
 + 910 CA18S
 + C31 CA18S
 + C32 CA18S
 + M10 CA18S
 + R30 CA18S
 + R31 CA18S
 + S12 CA18S
 + T11 CA18S
 + U11 CA18S
 + 
 +=== CA18 SOHC Turbo ===
 + GC22 CA18T
 + S12 CA18T
 + T12 CA18T
 + T12Y CA18T
 + U11 CA18T
 + 
 +=== CA20 ===
 + C22 8509-9403 CA20S Vanette
 + GC22 8605-9303 CA20S Vanette Largo
 + M10 Prairie 8208-8809 CA20S
 + M11 Prairie 8809-9811 CA20S
 + U11 Bluebird 8310-9005 CA20S
 + 
 +== North America ==
 + Vehicles
 + * 1982-1986 T11 Stanza CA20S, CA20E
 + * 1985-1989 T12 Stanza CA20E
 + * 1985-1988 M10 Stanza Wagon CA20E
 + * 1984-1988 S12 Nissan 200SX SE CA20E 104 hp
 + * 1984-1986 S12 200SX XE CA18ET 116 hp
 + * 1987-1988 S12 200SX XE CA18ET Canada
 + * 1986-1987 KN13 Nissan Pulsar NX SE CA16DE 113 hp
 + * 1988-1989 KN13 Nissan Pulsar NX SE CA18DE 125 hp
 + 
 +American CA18DE - 1988-1989 Pulsar NX SE (N13)
 +<br>{{wikiCommons|Nissan_EXA#Second_generation_.28N13.3B_1986.E2.80.931990.29|9/98|1988-1991_Nissan_EXA_%28N13%29_coupe_%282011-11-08%29_02.jpg}}
 + 
 + Engines
 + * CA16DE - 1986-1987 KN13 Nissan Pulsar NX SE
 + * CA18DE - 1988-1989 KN13 Nissan Pulsar NX SE
 + * CA18ET - 1984-1988 S12 200SX
 + * CA20S - 1982-1986 T11 Stanza
 + * CA20E
 + * 1982-1986 T11 Stanza
 + * 1985-1989 T12 Stanza
 + * 1985-1988 M10 Stanza Wagon
 + * 1984-1988 Nissan 200SX XE
 + 
 + T11 Stanza 43mpg USA (FWD)
 + * [[NAPS-X]] dual-plug engine (TwinSpark/Eight Plug)
 + * CA20S (carbureted) 2-valve dual-plug
 + * CA20E EFI 2-valve dual-plug
 + 
 + T11 Stanza USA (FWD & 4WD)
 + * CA20E EFI 2-valve dual-plug (8 spark plugs)
 + 
 + M10 Stanza USA (FWD)
 + * CA20E EFI 2-valve dual-plug (8 spark plugs)
 + 
 + S12 USA 200SX SOHC 8-valve, Twin Plug
 + * FS5W71B transmission 5-speed 1083-0186 (31.5" length)
 + * FS5W71C transmission 5-speed 0186- (33.9" length)
 + * CA20E (Coupe & Hatchback)
 + 102 hp @ 5200 rpm, 116 ft.lb. @ 3200 rpm
 + * CA18ET (Hatchback 3-dr only)
 + 120 hp @ 5200 rpm, 134 ft.lb. @ 3200 rpm
 + 
 + KN13 Nissan Pulsar NX SE - DOHC
 + * 1986-1987 CA16DE (FWD) 16-valve, single plug
 + * 1988-1989 CA18DE (FWD) 16-valve, single plug
 + 
 +== Intake Gasket ==
 +* 14035-D5710 GASKET-MANIFOLD
 +* 14035-D5711 GASKET-MANIFOLD [JDM/USA 8-port CA16DE/CA18DE/CA18DET]
 +* 14035-D5720 GASKET-MANIFOLD [Europe 4-port siamesed ports, CA18DE/CA18DET]
= Engine Fitting = = Engine Fitting =
-Any motor mount that is made for the KA24DE motor can be used on the CA18DET. If using the Nismo mounts your motor may sit slightly higher than stock but it will fit. 
-= Fuel Line, Pumps and Tank =+{{SeeMainArticle!|CA engine fitting}}
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=24581&forum=1 fuel tank issues - need osme advice]+ 
-Use high flow rated Bosch EFI pumps, Walbro pumps (watch out for the Ebay fakes).+ Choose a Transmission, gearbox crossmembers, speedo drive
 + Engine Fitting, Flywheel & Engine Plate
 + Sump & Crossmember
 + Fuel Line, Pumps and Tank
 + Wiring, Alternator & Ignitor
 + MAF Sensor
 + Preparing the Engine before Installation
 + Piping/Hose Connections, Heater Hoses & Crankcase Ventilation
 + Upgrading the CA engine 17.1 Injectors
 + Turbo Choice
 + Camshafts & Lifters
 + B210 Swap Notes
 + Differential
 + Clutch & Flywheel
 + 
 += Feature Cars =
 +[[1200U]] Gold Coast charger
 +<br>{{Album|9029}}
 + 
 +[[45USN]]
 +<br>{{Photo|45USN200506161958ridefile1.jpg|forum}}
 + 
 +[[Bezman#CA18DET_Power|Bezman]] sedan
 +<br>{{Upload!|10513_4bdee64cef624.jpg|400}}
 + 
 +[[CYA18T]]
 +<br>{{Photo|Imgp0053.jpg|forum}}
 + 
 +[[Demojob]] coupe
 +<br>{{Album!|7190}}
 + 
 +[[VB110#Datwag|Datwag]]
 +<br>{{Album|7844}}
-= Preparing the Engine before Installation =+[[elrich11]] ute
-For a second hand CA18det, these are some pre-install activities:+<br>{{Upload!|17122_583abb8eca8f0.jpg|400}}
-* Get engine block water/oil galleries cleaned out professionally.+
-* Get radiator professionally cleaned and pressure tested.+
-* Remove MAFM and clean the hotwire on the Mass Air Flow Meter. Use carby cleaner and cotton bud. +
-* Make sure MAFM is not clogged with oil from sitting upside down in a container.+
-* Remove and clean out the idle control unit on side of plenum. Use Carby Cleaner.+
-* Remove and clean the cold idle valve underneath throttlebody. Use Carby Cleaner+
-* Remove and clean the CAM covers, soak them in Kero for 30-60mins to clean out the oil strainers.+
-* Remove/Clean and reseal the cam cover rubber seals.+
-* Check head bolt torque settings.+
-* Remove and clean the Throttle body. Use Carby cleaner. Make sure that the shaft bearings aren't worn.+
-* Clean out intake side crank breathers. They can be full of crystalline carbon crap, causing high rev oil retention in head.+
-* Timing belt tensioner bearings. Can be ordered from Nissan (expensive) or can press the bearings out of holders and order bearings from Bearing supplier using the numbers on bearing oil seal. Then repress the bearings into the Nissan holders.+
-* Front Camshaft lip seals ($15 for both), Half moon seals at back of cam covers ($20 for both).+
-* Breather hoses on intake side can go hard and split, causing oil leaks. If they are hard, try to replace them with silicon hose, or landcruiser heater hose (but be prepared to replace them every 2 years).+
-* Check water hoses used to heat plenum on front and back of plenum. Remove them if in above zero deg C climate.+
-* Be sure to install the plenum rear plate gasket with the locating hole oriented to the top of the plenum. It will start leaking within a couple of days if the hole is on the bottom.+
-* Check compression on all 4 cylinders (fuel/ignition disabled), should be within 10psi, and all over 170psi.+
-* If one cylinder has less compression, remove plug, add a tablespoon of oil, and recheck, if it goes up, it's rings. Otherwise headgasket or scored bore.+
-* Try to use factory waterpump, some aftermarket ones aren't real good. Mine had it's pulley/fan holes drilled off centre.+
-* Always use Nissan thermostat. Cheap ones (Ryco) from K-mart aren't good enough.+
-* Buy NGK platinums from Nissan at $18-20 each. They are fine up to 20 PSI boost, unless you have a bad tune which melts them...+
 +[[jack's ute]]
 +<br>{{Album!|7816}}
-= Upgrading the CA engine =+MAD60Y
-== Injectors ==+<br>{{Album|21661}} {{Album|21662}} {{Album|13493}} {{Album|13498}} {{Album|13499}}
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=24805&forum=1 Injector questions]+
-Injector changes almost certain require a tune change, which needs either an aftermarket ECU, or a chip to be modified/burned and inserted into a modified factory ECU.+
-General recommendations for high powered CA18s require 440cc to 700c injectors to be used. +[[Mrbarista#CA_Power|Mrbarista]] ute
 +<br>{{Upload!|16861_5439cb41c3ae1.jpg|MED}}
-== Turbo Choice ==+[[NO1200]]
-Sensible Street -> T28G, GT28 (s15 jdm), GT2810 -> GT2835.+<br>{{Album!|239}}
-Drag Racing -> GT2840, Various large T3, HKS, Trust or GReddy offerrings. +
-== Camshafts ==+NYS
-Tomei offer:+<br>{{Album|4011}} {{Album|4010}} {{Album|4009}}
-Hydraulic -> 256 deg to 270 deg duration at a nominal lift of 8.8mm+
-Solid -> 264deg to 270 deg duration with 9.25 or 10.25 lift. Requires solid lifters and shims.+
-HKS:+[[Winzie]]
-All discontinued, and no longer available new.+<br>{{AlbumPhoto|4370|width=400}}
-= Forum Discussions =+= Photo Index =
-*+ See Main Article: [[CA18 Photo Index]]
[[Category:Engine Modifications]] [[Category:Engine Modifications]]
 +[[Category:Engine Swaps]]
 +[[Category:Nissan Engines]]{{End}}

Current revision

Swapping a Nissan CA engineᵂ into a Datsun 1200 is perhaps the most common high-power swap. It provides abundant horsepower (up to 400 hp) in a small, lightweight package. The CA18DE is a dual overhead cam engine, while the CA18DET is the factory turbo version. It will fit into the 1200 without cutting the firewall or body. You will additionally need a stronger rear axle assembly to cope with the extra torque that the CA-series puts out. On the down side, POST quote: "It does unbalance the car...lets not try to lie to ourselves."

Contents

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Overview

Internally stock CA18DET
21636.jpgAlbum 21636 23821.jpgAlbum 23821

Perfect fit for a 1200
10194.jpgAlbum 10194 18393.jpgAlbum 18393

CA16DE DOHC (Only available in FWD format)
3708.jpgAlbum 3708

CA18ET SOHC Turbo (Single Overhead Cam)
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CA18DET DOHC Turbo (Double Overhead Cam)
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CA20E SOHC - See main article: CA20
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Which is better - SR or CA?

  • CA18DET = street legal in all States
  • SR20DET = not street legal in a 1200 in Australia. A bit newer, a bit more power, heaps more parts globally, many more of these engines, so more parts for a long time

SR20 has more CCs -- and there's no replacement for displacement. On the other hand, SR20DET is too big for legal street use in some countries. 

POWER
CA18DET 167 hp  stock
SR20DET 205+ hp stock

modded stock block (stock rods, pistons, head)
CA 400 hp
SR 400 hp
Cams, turbo, intake and exhaust are the mods
To go over 400 hp internal upgrades are needed

Naturally aspirated, bone stock
CA18DE 131 hp
SR20DE 140-169 hp
  • There are more racing parts for SR engines. On the other hand, there are the same type of racing parts for CA engines (just not as many brands of them). There are even stroker kits for CA. It is easier to get parts like winged sumps etc for an SR. That doesn't mean the same parts are not available for the CA, it just means you need to look a bit harder.
  • SR engine fits in a an unmodified 1200 engine bay. So does CA engine. Tie.

LOOKS - do you prefer the CA look or the SR look? Bulging muscles, or muscular athetic build?
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  • CA is lighter than SR. On the other hand, both are far heavier than A-series engines. Yes, the SR has an alloy block, but it's still heavier than CA.
  • SR is more expensive than CA in many countries. In USA, CA18DET is less expensive then SR20DET -- RWD versions of both are imported as used engines (both were sold in USA in FWD form only). In USA the KA24DE from S14 trumps both CA or SR non-turbo engines. Cheaper and more powerful.
  • More 1200 fans are experienced at CA swaps, so there is a larger body of knowledge and know-how for the CA swap. On the other hand there are plenty of SR swaps too.
  • SOUND: SR has a different engine note, which some may prefer. Others like the sound of the CA.
  • SR has timing chain, which requires less maintenance than the CA's timing belt. CA coils on the other hand often go bad.

CA18ET - SOHC turbo
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Cost

  • Good used CA engines cost $400+ USD
  • S13/S14 Front-cut cost $1500-$2500 USD
  • Entire package with CA18DET and intercooler, fitted by a professional shop cost $20,000 AUD 
See:
* POST CA18 Aftermath cost
* POST CA18's

CA18DE in Datsun 1200 wagon
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Parts Needed 

* Engineer Certificate
* Labor: 40 hours
* S13 or S14 Silvia front cut (includes engine, 5-spd, and wiring harness)
* Hydraulic clutch conversion parts
* Custom Engine & Gearbox Mounts
* New Timing Belt
* S13 Radiator
* Bigger Diff (ute diff for stock CA18DET)
* Custom tailshaft
* Custom hosing for radiator and intercooler
* Custom Exhaust
* Wiring
* Fuel pump hosing filters, return line, surge tank
* Engine Oil & filter, Gearbox Oil, Coolant

OPTIONAL
* Stumpy gearbox
* Auto tunnel
* S13 Brakes
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Step-by-step

  1. Consult with Engineer (for AUS street-legal use)
  2. Purchase S13/S14 front car cut
  3. Test CA engine (compression test) & install new timing belt
  4. Inspect CA clutch
  5. Convert your 1200 to S13 Brakes
  6. Convert your 1200 to Hydraulic clutch
  7. Take 1200 out of service
    1. Convert your 1200 to stronger diff (ute diff for stock CA18DET)
    2. Remove engine & gearbox
    3. Cut hole in tunnel so large CA gearbox will fit
    4. Remove front suspension & crossmember
    5. Install new fuel system
    6. Jack up car, slide CA engine/gearbox assembly under
    7. Raise engine/gearbox assembly into place, fit crossmembers
    8. Reattach front suspension
    9. Install custom hydraulic clutch line to gearbox
    10. Install & plumb intercooler
    11. Install S13 radiator
    12. Add new fluids, oil & oil filter
    13. Measure transmission-to-diff, and order custom tailshaft
    14. Tow the car to exhaust shoppe for custom exhaust fitment
    15. wire up the engine
    16. Get final engineering certificate
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2-valve vs 4-valve

The 4-valve CA is a very special engine. The extra valves make it breathe very, very well which mean a lot more HP. All CA Double Overhead Cam (DOHC) engines have 4 valves per cylinder -- it's worth seeking out over the older SOHC versions. 

* 2-valve CA18E  113 hp
* 4-valve CA18DE 131 hp

4-valve:
* CA16DE 122 hp
* CA18DE 131 hp
* CA18DET 167 hp turbo

2-valve
* CA16S  80 hp
* CA16I 
* CA18S  90hp (Single carb)
* CA18I  91 hp (single point EFI)
* CA18P  (LPG)
* CA18E  113 hp (EGI/port injection) 113 hp
* CA18ET 135 hp
* CA20S  102 hp
* CA20E  105 hp
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CA20 and CA18 SOHC

CA18S/CA18E, CA18ET, and CA20S/CA20E are 2-valves per cylinder (8 valve head), so not as complicated as the DE models. However a CA20E turbo'd with stock rods will suffice for 300 HP if not taken beyond 6500rpm with 12psi. CA20 have around 9:1 compression. The USA CAs have better made-in-Japan casted alloy heads; the made-in-Australia castings are reportedly not as good. Also CA20 twin sparks are so economical for a 2 liter they really are underrated -- the CA20-powered Stanza got 43 mpg with NAPS-X.

CA20 with turbo added
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Inexpensive factory Mitsubishi 4G63 conrods are easy to mod and fit for 300-450hp. 

11041-D0202 HEAD ASSY-CYLINDER
* GC22.CA20S, C22.CA20
* C32.CA18I
* C33.CA18I
* M10.(CA18S+CA20S)
* R30.CA18S
* R31.CA18S
* R32.CA18I
* S12.CA18S
* T11.CA18

GC22 JAPAN

TRANSISTOR IGNITION UNIT
22020-D0210 MITSUBISHI
* E24.Z20/WE24.Z20
* C22/GC22.CA20
* U12.CA16S
* 910.CA18
* M10.CA18S
* R30.CA18
* R31.CA18S
* S12.CA18
* T11/T12.CA16S
* U11.CA16+CA18S/CA18E
22020-V5400 HITACHI <> 22020-V5401 Hitachi D4N

CAP ASSY-DISTRIBUTOR
22612-D0110 <> 22162-D0113 MITSUBISHI
* GC22.CA20S 8605-
22162-D3302 <> 22162-D3303 HITACHI
* GC22.CA20S 8605-8906

8-Plug Distributor Cap interchange CA16/CA18/CA20 SOHC
Bosch 03183
Standard Motor Products JH186
* 22162-03E00/22162-03E01
* 22162-11C00/22162-11C01
* 22162-21R00
* 22162-D0200/22162-D2200/22162-D2201/22162-D2202
* 22162-11001 
* 22162-21800
* 22162-D3300/22162-D3302/22162-D3303/22162-D3304 
* 22162-D3501/22162-D3502
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4-valve CA20

It is possible to put a DE/DET head on a on CA20. See http://club-s12.org/v3/index.php?topic=23985.0 

269 HP
85.55 mm cast pistons
stock CA20 rods, shot-peened
drill out the head bolt holes, re-tap for the larger CA18DE bolts
Turbo: Lancer EVO III TD05H-16G
timing belt: extensive mods
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8-port

USA and JDM CA16DE/CA18DE/CA18DET uses 8-port heads:
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There are two kinds of these heads:
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4-port

Global right-hand drive market (Europe and Australia) use siamesed intake port (4-port) heads:
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Inlet Butterflies

The butterflies are important for torque below 4500rpms:

  • If you are running after market ECU, and not programming the butterfly function in, then you may as well remove them.
  • If you are running a light flywheel and are only interested in power between 5000-8000rpm, then pulling out the butterflies is a good idea.
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Carburetors

CA fitted with Bike Carbs
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CA16DE retro-fitted with carburetors
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Donor Vehicles

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Japan

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CA16 

B12	CA16D
B12L	CA16D
KN13	CA16D
N13	CA16D
N13P	CA16D
910	CA16S
T11	CA16S
T12	CA16S
T12Y	CA16S
U11	CA16S
U12	CA16S
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CA18DE 

S13	CA18D
T12	CA18D
T12Y	CA18D
U12	CA18D
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CA18DET 

RWD
S12	SILVIA	8308-8805	CA18DT	8602-8805
S13	SILVIA	8805-9310	CA18DT	8805-9101
RS13	180SX	8903-9812	CA18DT	9803-9101

FWD/AWD 
T12	AUSTER	8510-8911	CA18DT	8510-
T12Y	STANZA	8608-8911	CA18DT	8608-
U11	BLUEBIRD 8310-9005	CA18DT	8508-
U12	BLUEBIRD 8709-9108	CA18DT	-8910

ALL S13/RS13 use Coil On Plug ignition
* CA18DE and CA18DT (turbo)
13287-51E00 ORNAMENT-ROCKER COVER CA18DT RS13
22433-5960 COIL ASSY-IGNITION MITSUBISHI
 <> 22433-59S10/22433-59S11/22433-59S12 HANJIN MCP-210

S12 & U11 CA18DET is distributorless
* uses 2-piece cover ornament
* 4 plug wires
* 4-terminal coil
* 22020-D4200 TRANSISTOR IGNITION UNIT Hitachi

Distributorless w/coil pack (not Coil on Plug)
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CA18 SOHC 

910	CA18E
R30	CA18E
S12	CA18E
T11	CA18E
U11	CA18E
C33	CA18I
R32	CA18I
T12	CA18I
T12Y	CA18I
U12	CA18I
C32	CA18P
910	CA18S
C31	CA18S
C32	CA18S
M10	CA18S
R30	CA18S
R31	CA18S
S12	CA18S
T11	CA18S
U11	CA18S
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CA18 SOHC Turbo 

GC22	CA18T
S12	CA18T
T12	CA18T
T12Y	CA18T
U11	CA18T
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CA20 

C22 8509-9403	CA20S	Vanette
GC22 8605-9303	CA20S	Vanette Largo
M10 Prairie	8208-8809	CA20S
M11 Prairie	8809-9811	CA20S
U11 Bluebird	8310-9005	CA20S
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North America 

Vehicles
* 1982-1986 T11 Stanza CA20S, CA20E
* 1985-1989 T12 Stanza CA20E
* 1985-1988 M10 Stanza Wagon CA20E
* 1984-1988 S12 Nissan 200SX SE CA20E 104 hp
* 1984-1986 S12 200SX XE CA18ET 116 hp
* 1987-1988 S12 200SX XE CA18ET Canada
* 1986-1987 KN13 Nissan Pulsar NX SE CA16DE 113 hp
* 1988-1989 KN13 Nissan Pulsar NX SE CA18DE 125 hp

American CA18DE - 1988-1989 Pulsar NX SE (N13)
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Engines
* CA16DE - 1986-1987 KN13 Nissan Pulsar NX SE 
* CA18DE - 1988-1989 KN13 Nissan Pulsar NX SE 
* CA18ET - 1984-1988 S12 200SX
* CA20S - 1982-1986 T11 Stanza
* CA20E 
  * 1982-1986 T11 Stanza
  * 1985-1989 T12 Stanza
  * 1985-1988 M10 Stanza Wagon
  * 1984-1988 Nissan 200SX XE

T11 Stanza 43mpg USA (FWD)
* NAPS-X dual-plug engine (TwinSpark/Eight Plug)
* CA20S (carbureted) 2-valve dual-plug
* CA20E EFI 2-valve dual-plug

T11 Stanza USA (FWD & 4WD)
* CA20E EFI 2-valve dual-plug (8 spark plugs)

M10 Stanza USA (FWD)
* CA20E EFI 2-valve dual-plug (8 spark plugs)

S12 USA 200SX SOHC 8-valve, Twin Plug
* FS5W71B transmission 5-speed 1083-0186 (31.5" length)
* FS5W71C transmission 5-speed 0186- (33.9" length)
  * CA20E (Coupe & Hatchback) 
    102 hp @ 5200 rpm, 116 ft.lb. @ 3200 rpm
  * CA18ET (Hatchback 3-dr only) 
    120 hp @ 5200 rpm, 134 ft.lb. @ 3200 rpm

KN13 Nissan Pulsar NX SE - DOHC
* 1986-1987 CA16DE (FWD) 16-valve, single plug
* 1988-1989 CA18DE (FWD) 16-valve, single plug
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Intake Gasket

  • 14035-D5710 GASKET-MANIFOLD
  • 14035-D5711 GASKET-MANIFOLD [JDM/USA 8-port CA16DE/CA18DE/CA18DET]
  • 14035-D5720 GASKET-MANIFOLD [Europe 4-port siamesed ports, CA18DE/CA18DET]
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Engine Fitting

See Main Article: CA engine fitting
Choose a Transmission, gearbox crossmembers, speedo drive
Engine Fitting, Flywheel & Engine Plate
Sump & Crossmember
Fuel Line, Pumps and Tank
Wiring, Alternator & Ignitor
MAF Sensor
Preparing the Engine before Installation
Piping/Hose Connections, Heater Hoses & Crankcase Ventilation
Upgrading the CA engine 17.1 Injectors
Turbo Choice
Camshafts & Lifters
B210 Swap Notes
Differential
Clutch & Flywheel
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Feature Cars

1200U Gold Coast charger
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45USN
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Bezman sedan
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CYA18T
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Demojob coupe
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Datwag
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elrich11 ute
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jack's ute
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MAD60Y
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Mrbarista ute
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NO1200
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NYS
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Winzie
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Photo Index 

See Main Article: CA18 Photo Index 
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