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- | Also see: [[Crossmember]] | + | {{See|Crossmember}}<br> |
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20928 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20928.jpg] Insulator | + | = Overview = |
+ | [[#Rubber Insulators|#Insulator]] | [[#Brackets]] | ||
+ | <br>{{AlbumH|20928|jpg|320}} {{Album|20923|jpg|256}} | ||
+ | = Rubber Insulators = | ||
+ | Engine mounting insulator sits between the engine mounting brackets and the crossmember, and provides insulation from noise and vibration. | ||
+ | |||
+ | {{Main|Insulators}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | |||
+ | {{Album!|20928}} | ||
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+ | = Brackets = | ||
+ | B110 (1970-1973) | ||
+ | {{Album|25736}} | ||
+ | |||
+ | Late 1200 (1974-1994) + B210 + B310 | ||
+ | {{Album|20934}} | ||
= B110 and B120 = | = B110 and B120 = | ||
- | Front: 1970-1973 1200 engine tall [[crossmember]] (B110/B120) | + | Which brackets you need depend on the vehicle's crossmember. |
- | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=13676 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=320&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/13676.jpg] | + | |
+ | Front: 1970-1973 1200 engine tall [[crossmember]] (B110/B120) | ||
<br>Rear: 1974-up 1200 tall/short engine crossmember | <br>Rear: 1974-up 1200 tall/short engine crossmember | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|13676}} | ||
- | Not only does the new-style engine have a lower mount, but the mounts are further back 35mm (~1-3/8"). These photos shows how far back: | + | Not only does the new-style engine have a lower right-hand mount, but the mounts are further back 35mm (~1-3/8"). These photos shows how far back: |
- | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=7976 http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=224&uri=http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/7976.jpg] [http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h16/datsik1200/Photo-0283-1.jpg http://ddgonzal.members.winisp.net/getThumb.aspx?width=224&uri=http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h16/datsik1200/Photo-0283-1.jpg] | + | <br>{{Album|7976}} {{Photo|Photo-0283-1.jpg}} |
- | Original B110 engine brackets: | + | There are TWO types of right-side brackets: |
- | <br>right side (high-mount) | + | <br>{{Album|20923}} |
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- | <br>Two types of right-side brackets | + | |
- | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20923 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/20923.jpg] | + | |
* Top: original style | * Top: original style | ||
* Bottom: new style for revised crossmembers | * Bottom: new style for revised crossmembers | ||
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** Starting with 1985 B120 JDM (G1900) | ** Starting with 1985 B120 JDM (G1900) | ||
- | + | NOTE: If you mix early engine with late crosmember (or vice-versa) it will require some modifications. In this case see [[A-series Engine Swaps]]. | |
- | NOTE: If you mix early engine with late crosmember (or vice-versa) you need some modications. In this case see [[A-series Engine Swaps]]. | + | |
- | + | ||
== Early Engine Mounting == | == Early Engine Mounting == | ||
- | 1970-1973 Datsun 1200 | + | 1970-1973 Datsun 1200 uses bracket that fit the early A12 engine. Note that the left-side bracket is stepped to fit the engine block. |
- | + | <br>{{Album|20925}} {{Album|19820}} | |
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20925 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20925.jpg] | + | |
- | * 11223-H1000 INSULATOR-engine mounting, front [10 mm studs] $12.70 USD | + | B110 Insulator |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20929 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/20929.jpg] | + | <br>{{AlbumH|20929|jpg|298}} {{Album|20940}} |
* 11221-H1000 BRACKET-engine mounting, front (R.H.) | * 11221-H1000 BRACKET-engine mounting, front (R.H.) | ||
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=562 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/562.gif] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20943 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/20943.jpg] | + | *: {{Album|562|gif}} {{Album|20943}} |
* 11222-H1000 BRACKET-engine mounting, front (L.H.) | * 11222-H1000 BRACKET-engine mounting, front (L.H.) | ||
** Stepped mounting. Lower boss is farther out than upper boss | ** Stepped mounting. Lower boss is farther out than upper boss | ||
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14950 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/14950.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=209 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/209.JPG] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20942 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/20942.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23563 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/23563.jpg] | + | *: {{Album|14950}} {{Album|209|JPG}} {{Album|20942}} {{Album|23563}} |
== Late Engine Mounting == | == Late Engine Mounting == | ||
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<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20924 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20924.jpg] | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20924 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20924.jpg] | ||
- | * 11223-H5000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT 7510-8503 [8mm studs] | + | [[Engine Mounts]] dimensions |
- | * 11223-G1900 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT 8504- [8mm studs] | + | <br>{{Album|25421}} |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20928 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20928.jpg] | + | |
+ | High side mount (similar to earlier) | ||
+ | 11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 7510-8503 | ||
+ | 11221-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 8504- | ||
- | * High side mount (similar to earlier) | + | Low side mount (new crossmembers) |
- | * 11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 7510-8503 | + | 11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 7510-8503 |
- | * 11221-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 8504- | + | * Same part for 74-up B120 (ute), B210 and B310 |
- | * [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2563 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2563.jpg] | + | 11222-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 8504- |
+ | 11221-G1900 RH | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|2563}} | ||
- | * Low side mount (new crossmembers) | + | 11222-H5001 LH |
- | * 11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 7510-8503 | + | <br>{{Album|2564}} |
- | ** Same part for 74-up B120 (ute), B210 and B310 | + | |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2564 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2564.jpg] | + | === 1978 Revision === |
- | * 11222-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 8504- | + | 1978 [[Reduction gear starter]] modification |
+ | <br>{{Album|23748}} {{AlbumH|20923|jpg|248}} | ||
= B10 Mounts = | = B10 Mounts = | ||
- | As you can see these are different from newer (B110, etc) mounts. | + | The Datsun 1000 parts are different from newer (B110, etc) mounts. |
- | * 11223-18001 INSULATOR-engine mounting front | + | 11121-18000 BRACKET-engine mounting front (R.H.) |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18305 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/18305.jpg] | + | * stepped bracket - looks similar to B110 LH bracket |
+ | 11122-18000 BRACKET-engine mounting front (L.H.) | ||
+ | * flat (unstepped) bracket | ||
- | * 11121-18000 BRACKET-engine mounting front (R.H.) | + | RH stepped bracket |
- | ** stepped bracket - looks similar to B110 LH bracket | + | <br>{{Album|2569}} |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2569 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2569.jpg] | + | |
- | * 11122-18000 BRACKET-engine mounting front (L.H.) | + | == Late Engine Into Datsun 1000 == |
- | * flat (unstepped) bracket | + | For putting a 1974-up engine into a B10, see [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=295981#forumpost295981 Chris's Rip Snorter A12 & Red B10] |
+ | |||
+ | {{Album!|21063}} {{Album!|21062}} | ||
= B210 Mounts = | = B210 Mounts = | ||
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20926 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20926.jpg] | + | {{Album|20926}} |
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- | * 11223-H5000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT V [? mm studs] | + | |
- | * 11223-H7500 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT [except] V [10 mm studs] | + | |
- | * 11223-H7300 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA 0974- [10 mm studs, A14 engine softer mounts] $30.47 USD | + | |
- | ** replaces 11223-H7500 | + | |
- | ** replaces 11223-H6100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA -0874 [? mm studs, A13 engine harder mounts] | + | |
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- | * 11221-H7301 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH | + | |
- | ** USA -0777 | + | |
- | ** USA 11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH -0874 | + | |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20517 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/20517.jpg] | + | |
- | ** USA 11121-H7300 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0974-1074 | + | |
- | * USA 11221-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0877- | + | |
- | ** Bracket notched for Reduction Gear [[Starter]]? | + | |
- | + | ||
- | * 11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH | + | 11223-H5000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT V [8 mm studs] |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20516 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/20516.jpg] | + | * also used by 1976-1985 Datsun 1200 |
+ | 11223-H6100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA -0874 [for A13 engine] | ||
+ | * ? mm studs, A13 engine harder mounts] | ||
+ | 11223-H7500 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT except Van [10 mm studs] | ||
+ | 11223-H7300 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA 0974- | ||
+ | * [10 mm studs, A14 engine softer mounts] $30.47 USD | ||
+ | * replaces 11223-H7500 | ||
+ | * replaces 11223-H6100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA -0874 | ||
+ | [? mm studs, A13 engine harder mounts] | ||
+ | 11221-H7301 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH | ||
+ | * USA -0777 | ||
+ | USA 11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH -0874 | ||
+ | {{Album|20517}} | ||
+ | USA 11121-H7300 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0974-1074 | ||
+ | USA 11221-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0877- | ||
+ | * Bracket notched for Reduction Gear [[Starter]]? | ||
+ | 11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH | ||
+ | {{Album|20516}} | ||
Right-side mount comparison: | Right-side mount comparison: | ||
- | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20945 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/20945.jpg] | ||
<br>Middle pair is B110 early, right is B210? (thin), left is B310? (thick) | <br>Middle pair is B110 early, right is B210? (thin), left is B310? (thick) | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|20945}} | ||
B210 crossmember change for 1978 North America | B210 crossmember change for 1978 North America | ||
- | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=23748 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/23748.jpg] | + | <br>{{Album|23748}} |
<br>Crossmember horns are farther apart, requiring new style RH bracket | <br>Crossmember horns are farther apart, requiring new style RH bracket | ||
<br>B310 uses this new spacing | <br>B310 uses this new spacing | ||
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= B310 Mounts = | = B310 Mounts = | ||
The B310 insulators have a metal wrap in case the rubber breaks, the engine won't move too far. | The B310 insulators have a metal wrap in case the rubber breaks, the engine won't move too far. | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|20927}} | ||
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20927 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/20927.jpg] | + | 11223-H9100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH [10 mm studs] $34.38 USD |
+ | 11224-H9100 INSULATOR ASSY-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT LH $44.32 USD | ||
+ | {{Album|4689}} | ||
+ | B310 insulators have a larger studs and locating pins, but otherwise are the same dimensions as B110 mounts. | ||
- | * 11223-H9100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH [10 mm studs] $34.38 USD | + | 11221-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH |
- | * 11224-H9100 INSULATOR ASSY-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT LH $44.32 USD | + | |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4689 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/4689.jpg] | + | |
- | * B310 insulators have a larger studs and locating pins, but otherwise are the same dimensions as B110 mounts. | + | |
+ | Stronger, more rigid than ever - perhaps to reduce [[NVH]] (noise, vibration and harshness) | ||
+ | <br>{{Album|20930}} {{Album|20935}} | ||
- | * 11221-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH | + | 11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH |
- | * stronger, more rigid than ever - perhaps to reduce NVH (noise, vibration and harshness) | + | <br> * Same as B210 and mid-model B120 |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20930 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/20930.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20935 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/20935.jpg] | + | <br>{{Album|16679}} {{Album|20936}} |
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- | * 11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH | + | |
- | ** Same as B210 and mid-model B120 | + | |
- | *: [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=16679 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/16679.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20936 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/20936.jpg] | + | |
Left and Right together | Left and Right together | ||
- | <br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=20934 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/20934.jpg] | + | <br>{{Album|20934}} |
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- | = Upgraded Insulators = | + | |
- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6215 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/6215.jpg] | + | |
- | * "These are the heavy duty engine mounts we were talking about. Broken engine mounts are a common thing in rally cars and this fixes the problem. Mounts are polyurethane and come out of a ford cortina and last for years of competition...Part number MT8156N. Kelpro make them...I usually just go to a good parts place and ask for cortina engine mounts and this is what they give me. Maybe there are two types, these are about 70mm in dia." | + | |
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- | * http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34366&forum=1 One guy said: "you might want to look at the poly-urathene style mounts. I am using some of a Jag. The part number is at home. but they are heaps wider but no tallers, so they make a good direct replacement, plus they are high temp rated." | + | |
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- | [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=904 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/904.jpg] | + | |
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[[Category:Engine Mechanical]] | [[Category:Engine Mechanical]] |
Current revision
Contents |
Overview
Rubber Insulators
Engine mounting insulator sits between the engine mounting brackets and the crossmember, and provides insulation from noise and vibration.
Brackets
B110 (1970-1973)
Late 1200 (1974-1994) + B210 + B310
B110 and B120
Which brackets you need depend on the vehicle's crossmember.
Front: 1970-1973 1200 engine tall crossmember (B110/B120)
Rear: 1974-up 1200 tall/short engine crossmember
Not only does the new-style engine have a lower right-hand mount, but the mounts are further back 35mm (~1-3/8"). These photos shows how far back:
There are TWO types of right-side brackets:
- Top: original style
- Bottom: new style for revised crossmembers
- Allows fitment of reduction gear starters
- Starting with 1978 B210 USA (H8500)
- All B310 (H8500)
- Starting with 1985 B120 JDM (G1900)
NOTE: If you mix early engine with late crosmember (or vice-versa) it will require some modifications. In this case see A-series Engine Swaps.
Early Engine Mounting
1970-1973 Datsun 1200 uses bracket that fit the early A12 engine. Note that the left-side bracket is stepped to fit the engine block.
- 11222-H1000 BRACKET-engine mounting, front (L.H.)
- Stepped mounting. Lower boss is farther out than upper boss
Late Engine Mounting
1974 and up engines are different, and 1974-up 1200s use a corresponding crossmember
High side mount (similar to earlier) 11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 7510-8503 11221-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, RH 8504-
Low side mount (new crossmembers) 11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 7510-8503 * Same part for 74-up B120 (ute), B210 and B310 11222-G1900 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, LH 8504-
1978 Revision
1978 Reduction gear starter modification
B10 Mounts
The Datsun 1000 parts are different from newer (B110, etc) mounts.
11121-18000 BRACKET-engine mounting front (R.H.) * stepped bracket - looks similar to B110 LH bracket 11122-18000 BRACKET-engine mounting front (L.H.) * flat (unstepped) bracket
Late Engine Into Datsun 1000
For putting a 1974-up engine into a B10, see Chris's Rip Snorter A12 & Red B10
B210 Mounts
11223-H5000 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT V [8 mm studs] * also used by 1976-1985 Datsun 1200 11223-H6100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA -0874 [for A13 engine] * ? mm studs, A13 engine harder mounts] 11223-H7500 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT except Van [10 mm studs] 11223-H7300 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA 0974- * [10 mm studs, A14 engine softer mounts] $30.47 USD * replaces 11223-H7500 * replaces 11223-H6100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT USA -0874 [? mm studs, A13 engine harder mounts]
11221-H7301 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH * USA -0777 USA 11221-H5000 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH -0874USA 11121-H7300 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0974-1074 USA 11221-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH 0877- * Bracket notched for Reduction Gear Starter?
11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH
Right-side mount comparison:
Middle pair is B110 early, right is B210? (thin), left is B310? (thick)
B210 crossmember change for 1978 North America
Crossmember horns are farther apart, requiring new style RH bracket
B310 uses this new spacing
B310 Mounts
The B310 insulators have a metal wrap in case the rubber breaks, the engine won't move too far.
11223-H9100 INSULATOR-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT RH [10 mm studs] $34.38 USD
11224-H9100 INSULATOR ASSY-ENGINE MOUNTING FRONT LH $44.32 USD
B310 insulators have a larger studs and locating pins, but otherwise are the same dimensions as B110 mounts.
11221-H8500 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT RH
Stronger, more rigid than ever - perhaps to reduce NVH (noise, vibration and harshness)
11222-H5001 BRACKET-ENGINE MOUNTING, FRONT LH
* Same as B210 and mid-model B120
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