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-The Datsun 1200 used a 1-1/2 inch exhaust system. The cast iron exhaust manifold has a flat two-bolt flange. A built-in bulge of the pipe was used to seal to the exhaust pipe, which extended past the rear axle. Finally a very, very quiet muffler with a short tail pipe was suspended by two rubber rings.+The Datsun 1200 used a 1-1/2 inch exhaust system. The cast iron exhaust manifold has a flat two-bolt flange. A built-in bulge of the pipe was used to seal to the exhaust pipe, which extended past the rear axle. Finally a very, very quiet muffler with a short tail pipe was suspended by two rubber rings. The factory Datsun 1200 muffler was so quiet you couldn't hear the engine at idle.
= Overview = = Overview =
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=18142 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/18142.jpg]+{{Album|18142}}
Terminology Terminology
 +
 +Exhaust Pipe, Muffler, Tail Pipe
<br>{{Album-|26085}} <br>{{Album-|26085}}
 +
 +Exhaust Manifold and Exhaust Pipe
 +<br>{{Album|22644}}
Exhaust insulators: Rubber tailpipe hanger, Ring muffler hangers Exhaust insulators: Rubber tailpipe hanger, Ring muffler hangers
<br>{{Photo|97892844kojiya_2006-img600x354-1167.jpg|Datsun%201200/Parts2}} <br>{{Photo|97892844kojiya_2006-img600x354-1167.jpg|Datsun%201200/Parts2}}
-Original mufflers came with integrated '''exhaust pipe'''+Original mufflers came with integrated '''exhaust pipe''' - Bottom (old) is the factory piece
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/11320.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11320 album]+<br>{{Album|11320}}
-<br>Bottom (old) is the factory piece+
B210 is similar: 20100-H5000 B210 is similar: 20100-H5000
-<br>[http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%20Misc/B210/20100-H5000-2.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%20Misc/B210/th_20100-H5000-2.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%20Misc/B210/20100-H5000-3.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%20Misc/B210/th_20100-H5000-3.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%20Misc/B210/20100-H5000-1.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%20Misc/B210/th_20100-H5000-1.jpg]+<br>{{Photo|20100-H5000-2.jpg|Datsun%20Misc/B210}} {{Photo|20100-H5000-3.jpg|Datsun%20Misc/B210}} {{Photo|20100-H5000-1.jpg|Datsun%20Misc/B210}}
-A12GX exhaust from [[A12GX Engine]] (twin carb) models used a quieter exhaust with a small resonator as well the regular muffler:+[[#A12GX Exhaust]] from twin carb models used a quieter exhaust with a small resonator as well the regular muffler:
-<br>{{Album|12778}}+<br>{{Album!|12778}}
-Notice the GX also used a cast header with dual outlets -- See [[Exhaust_Manifold#A12_GX|Exhaust Manifold]]+In addition the rubber hangers at the very end of the pipe and the muffler rubber hangers, B310 used a solid hanger at the end of the transmission:
-<br><img size=256>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/newbb/12371_4bb2a0bf36ee6.jpg</img> {{AlbumLink|Exhaust_Manifold#A12_GX|2585|width=SM}}+<br>{{Photo|DSCF4058_.jpg}}
-In addition the rubber hangers at the very end of the pipe and the muffler rubber hangers, B310 used a solid hanger at the end of the transmission:+Factory muffler: B110, B110A, PB110, PB110A, B110 GX, B110 GXA, B110 GX5
-<br><img size=400>http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/DSCF4058_.jpg</img> [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/DSCF4058_.jpg full]+<br>{{Album|22334}}
= Sizing for Performance = = Sizing for Performance =
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{{Album|3092}} {{Album|3092}}
-Single Exhaust+ Single Exhaust
-* Stock 62 horsepower A10: 35mm (~1-3/8")+ * Stock 62 horsepower A10: 35mm (~1-3/8")
-* Stock 68/69 horsepower A12: 1.5" (38mm)+ * Stock 68/69 horsepower A12: 1.5" (38mm)
-* A12 GX 83 horsepower: 1.5"+ * A12 GX 83 horsepower: 1.5"
-* modded A-series engine: 1.75"+ * modded A-series engine: 1.75"
-* Max fuel econdomy: 1.5"+ * Max fuel econdomy: 1.5"
-* 108 hp engine: 1.75"+ * 108 hp engine: 1.75"
-* 144 hp engine: 2"+ * 144 hp engine: 2"
-* 185 hp engine: 2.25"+ * 185 hp engine: 2.25"
-* 232 hp engine: 2.5"+ * 232 hp engine: 2.5"
-* 339 hp engine: 3"+ * 339 hp engine: 3"
- +
Of course you can vary this. For example: Of course you can vary this. For example:
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Although the larger pipe cuts down on low-rpm horsepower, if you have a big engine it's not so bad. Large exhaust increases high-rpm (peak) horsepower slightly while dropping low-RPM hp significantly. Although the larger pipe cuts down on low-rpm horsepower, if you have a big engine it's not so bad. Large exhaust increases high-rpm (peak) horsepower slightly while dropping low-RPM hp significantly.
 +
 +Large pipes with "turbo" type mufflers sound great, but tend to have annoying resonances.
 +<br>{{Album|9714}}
 +
 +To solve the vibation & drone problems encounted with straight-through (turbo) mufflers:
 +* Change to a chambered muffler which is baffled
 +* or, adjust pipe diameter and length, possibly adding a resonator chamber in the middle of the exhaust system
 +* OR, cancel out those specific pipe resonant frequencies. For example, if your exhaust drones loudly at 2,500 RPM, add a [http://google.com/search?q=%22side+branch+resonators%22 side branch pipe] that is 28" long. It will cancel the drone and leave all other RPMs alone
 +
 +3" exhaust system is possible under a 1200 sedan
 +<br>{{Album|4985}} {{Album|12687}}
= Options = = Options =
-Chrome tailpipe extension (bell-shaped)+{{See|Options}}
 + 
 +An exhaust tube '''finisher''' adds a luxurious accent to the rear view. Just by installing it, the impression will be greatly improved.
- Also see [[Options]]+{{searchPart|20321-H2000}} B110 chrome tailpipe extension (bell-shaped)
 +<br>{{Album|13931}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=13931 exhaust tube finisher]+{{searchPart|20321-H2500}} B110 option, [[Sunny_Genuine_Option_Parts#Exhaust Finisher|B210 option]] exhaust finisher
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/13931.jpg</img>+<br>{{AlbumCrop|29685|style=width:378px; height:270px; object-position:96.5% 92%;}}
-= Coupe vs. Sedan =+= Coupe vs Sedan vs Wagon =
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14826 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/14826.jpg] coupe muffler+coupe muffler
 +<br>{{Album|14826}}
* The bends are slightly different. * The bends are slightly different.
* The hanger near the end of the tailpipe (in the photo: where the price tag is) is a different place for sedan vs coupe * The hanger near the end of the tailpipe (in the photo: where the price tag is) is a different place for sedan vs coupe
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3771 Sedan/Coupe/Wagon differ]+Sedan/Coupe/Wagon differ - left: exhaust pipe, right:muffler/tailpipe
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/3771.jpg</img>+<br>{{Album|3771}}
-<br>left: exhaust pipe, right:muffler/tailpipe+ 
 += A12GX Exhaust =
 +A12GX exhaust from [[A12GX Engine]] (twin carb) models used a quieter exhaust with a small resonator as well the regular muffler:
 +<br>{{Album|12778}}
 + 
 +Notice the GX also used a cast header with dual outlets -- See [[Exhaust_Manifold#A12_GX|Exhaust Manifold]]
 +<br>{{Upload|12371_4bb2a0bf36ee6.jpg}} {{Album|2585}}
 + 
 +downpipe portion of the exhaust pipe
 +<br>{{UploadPost|13822_543ba7b1b39af.jpg|460546}} {{Album|11830}}
 + 
 +GX used the stock muffler (coupe or sedan version) along with these special parts:
 + 20010-H2301 ASS'Y-TUBE, exhaust front GX
 + 20010-H3400 ASS'Y-TUBE, exhaust front GXA
 + 20010-H7200 ASS'Y-TUBE, exhaust front 5 speed
 + {{search|20321-H2500|20321-H2500}} FINISHER-exhaust GL,GX < 20321-H2000
 + 
 +chrome tail pipe Finisher
 +<br>{{Album|13931}}
 + 
 +For the B110 1200 there were three different GX tubes:
 +* GX
 +* GX Automatic
 +* GX5
 +Only difference being the bend of the tube. Subtle difference
 + 
 +Exhaust Tube with resonator
 +<br>{{UploadPost|174_5d37856975db1.png|491959}}
 + 
 +Exhaust good for an engine with 20% more HP. Same tube diameter as regular
 +<br>{{UploadPost|174_5d3780d59de9b.jpg|491957}}
 +<br>{{UploadPostH|174_5d3780fc50ded.jpg|491957|219}} {{UploadPostH|174_5d3781258f597.jpg|491957|219}} {{UploadPostH|174_5d378196bcb74.jpg|491957|219}}
 + 
 +Complete the GX exhaust with Sedan or Coupe muffler/tail pipe assemblies. Result is super-quiet yet more powerful.
 +<br>{{UploadPost|174_5d3785fb2c7bd.png|491957}}
= Part Numbers = = Part Numbers =
- See [[Exhaust Piping Part Numbers]]+{{Main|Exhaust Part Numbers}}
== Truck, Early == == Truck, Early ==
To 1978, a single muffler was used. To 1978, a single muffler was used.
-<br><img size=400>http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/exh_early.jpg</img>+<br>{{Photo!|exh_early.jpg}}
FRONT EXHAUST TUBE ASS'Y FRONT EXHAUST TUBE ASS'Y
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== Truck, Mid-model == == Truck, Mid-model ==
From 1978 to 1989, a rear resonator was used. From 1978 to 1989, a rear resonator was used.
-<br><img size=400>http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/exh_mid.jpg</img>+<br>{{Photo!|exh_mid.jpg}}
FRONT EXHAUST TUBE ASS'Y FRONT EXHAUST TUBE ASS'Y
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20673 CLAMP-EXHAUST TUBE 20673 CLAMP-EXHAUST TUBE
-<img size=400>http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts/20100-G1901.jpg</img> [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts/20100-G1901.jpg full]+{{Photo|20100-G1901.jpg|Datsun%201200/Parts}}
Nichira manufacture Nichira manufacture
-<br><img size=400>http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts/20100-G1901_.jpg</img> [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts/20100-G1901_.jpg full]+<br>{{Photo|20100-G1901_.jpg|Datsun%201200/Parts}}
== Truck, Late == == Truck, Late ==
From October 1989, a [[Catalytic Converter]] was used. From October 1989, a [[Catalytic Converter]] was used.
-<br><img size=400>http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/exh_late.jpg</img>+<br>{{Photo!|exh_late.jpg}}
FRONT EXHAUST TUBE ASS'Y FRONT EXHAUST TUBE ASS'Y
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20802-G5126 THREE WAY CATALYST 8910- <> 20802-81A26 20802-G5126 THREE WAY CATALYST 8910- <> 20802-81A26
-== Muffler == 
-Muffler measurements from my car (original muffler?): 
- * 11-5/8" Shell length 
- * 8-1/4" Shell oval width 
- * 3-3/4" Shell oval height 
- * 1.5" front inlet, centered 
- * 1.5" rear outlet, on far left of oval 
-A muffler about 2" longer may fit. 
- 
- Nissan JDM Catalog 
- * 20010-H1000 TUBE ASS'Y-exhaust, front - ALL (exc. GX, Automatic) 
- [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=19077 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/19077.jpg] 
- * 20010-H1020 TUBE ASS'Y-exhaust, front - Automatic 
- * 20010-H2301 TUBE ASS'Y-exhaust, front - GX 4-speed 
- * 20010-H3400 TUBE ASS'Y-exhaust, front - GXA (GX Automatic) 
- * 20010-H7200 TUBE ASS'Y-exhaust, front - GX-5 
- * 20603-H2300 GASKET-exhaust tube - GX and GX-5 
- * 20602-27700 NUT-fixing, tube end (2) - ALL (except GX, GX-5) 
- * 20602-27700 NUT-fixing, tube end - GX-5 
- * 08915-13810 WASTHER-spring lock (3) - GX-5 
- * 20635-18000 STOPPER-muffler bound - ALL 
- * 20100-H1000 MUFFLER ASS'Y-with rear tube - Sedan 
- * 20100-H1400 MUFFLER ASS'Y-with rear tube - Van 
- * 20100-H2500 MUFFLER ASS'Y-with rear tube - Coupe 
- * 20630-18000 RING-rubber, muffler clamp (2) 
- * 20620-H1000 CLIP-tube, exhaust 
- http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts2/20620-H1000.jpg 
- * 06915-43810 WASHER-plain (2) 
- * 08915-13810 WASHER-lock 
- * 08110-85510 or 08110-86010 BOLT 
- * 08911-10810 NUT 
- * 20640-18000 STRAP-exhaust hanger 
- [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=25604 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/25604.jpg] 
- * 20641-18000 WASHER-plain (2) 
- * 08911-10810 NUT (2) 
- * 08915-13810 WASHER-lock (2) 
- * 08110-82210 BOLT (2) 
- * 20321-H2500 FINISHER-exhaust - GL, GX 
- * 20720-N2225 SEALER KIT-exhaust tube joint - ALL 
- 
- USA Catalog 
- * 20010-H3100 ASSY-TUBE EXHAUST FRONT Sedan Manual Trans > 20010-H1000 $34.92 
- * 20100-H7001 ASSY-MUFFLER WITH REAR TUBE Sedan Manual Trans > 20100-H1000 $84.72 NLA 
- * 20321-H2000 FINISHER-EXHAUST (chrome extension) NLA 
- * 20321-H2500 FINISHER-EXHAUST (chrome extension) $18.36 NLA 
- 
-A15E [[EGI]] dual exhaust 
-<br>[http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/B310_exhaust.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_B310_exhaust.jpg] 
- 
-= Truck = 
20624 INSULATOR ASSY-EXHAUST MOUNTING 20624 INSULATOR ASSY-EXHAUST MOUNTING
20630-G1001 ALL (2) 20630-G1001 ALL (2)
- [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=25616 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/25616.jpg]+ {{Thumb|25616}}
* fixes muffler to chassis * fixes muffler to chassis
9401- Front Exhaust Tube (uses 51E donut type gasket) 9401- Front Exhaust Tube (uses 51E donut type gasket)
-<br>http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/20010-95W02-.jpg [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/20010-95W02.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_20010-95W02.jpg] [http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/20010-95W02_.jpg http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/wiki/th_20010-95W02_.jpg]+<br>{{Photo|20010-95W02-.jpg}} {{Photo|20010-95W02.jpg}} {{Photo|20010-95W02_.jpg}}
EXHAUST GASKET manifold-to-pipe EXHAUST GASKET manifold-to-pipe
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20692-1E810 9208- 20692-1E810 9208-
-= Muffler =+ 20691-51E01
-The muffler should flow at least 2.2 cfm per flywheel HP. For a 69 hp A12, that is 152 cfm+ BECK/ARNLEY 0396441 [http://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=2069151E01 $3 rockauto.com]
 + FEL-PRO 60905
 + VICTOR REINZ F31814
 + * A32B 0601- VQ30DE
 + * A33B 0499- VQ30DE
 + * B13 0890- SR20DE
 + * B15U 0100- SR20DE/QG18DE
 + * D22U 0898- KA24DE
 + * L30 0697- KA24DE
 + * U13U 0893- KA24DE
 + * WD22 0599- KA24DE
-== Aftermarket 1.5 ==+20691-51E01 Steel ring gasket
-* Dynomax 17700 ("Thrush turbo"),similar shape to stock. Oval 3.25 in. x 7.75 in. Case Length: 11 in. Overall length: 16 in. Width: 7.750 in. Thickness: 3.25 in.+<br>{{UploadPost|174_57d479419d91b.jpg|481133|width=SM}}
-1-1/2 pipe clamps:+=== Converter ===
-* Merit M112 or U112+To meet [[Japan_Emissions#R|1988 'R' emission standards]], a 3-way catalytic converter was fitted. Due to the converter beneath the floor, a [[Seat#Catalytic_Converter_Seats|special passenger seat]] is used.
-* Napa BK 7335325+
-Rubber Donut Hangers+ CATALYTIC CONVERTER GASKET
-* Merit 8166 ???+ Nissan 20692-M3060
 + BECK/ARNLEY 0396035
 + * 720 L20B, Z20/Z22/Z24
 + * 910 L24E
 + * B11 E15X/E16S
 + * N10 A14/A15/E15S
 + * N12 E16S
 + * S110 Z20E/Z22E
 + * S12 CA18ET/CA20E
 + * S130 L28E/L28ET
 + * T11 CA20S/CA20E
 + {{Photo2|BA0396035.jpg|width=SM}}
-Aftermarket GX (is it the same as the S110 gasket?)+ {{Album|27039}}
-* Gasket: Merit 8696+ 20802-G5126 THREE WAY CATALYST < 20852-81A26 &#12467;&#12531;&#12496;&#12540;&#12479;&#12540;&#12289;&#12459;&#12479;&#12522;&#12473;&#12488; &#12454;&#12452;&#12474;&#12288;&#12471;&#12455;&#12523;&#12479;&#12540;
-* Pipe: (1981 Nissan 720), Merit 48316+ 20802A&#12288;01121-00751 BOLT 4
 + 20853-53A00 LOWER SHELTER &#12471;&#12455;&#12523;&#12479;&#12540;&#12289;&#12467;&#12531;&#12496;&#12540;&#12479;&#12540; &#12525;&#12450;
 + 22740-95W00 [EXH TEMP] SENSOR ASSY-CATALYST &#12475;&#12531;&#12469;&#12540; &#12450;&#12483;&#12475;&#12531;&#12502;&#12522;&#12540;&#12289;&#12459;&#12479;&#12522;&#12473;&#12488;
 +{{Album|27040}} {{Album|27041}} {{Album|24462}}
-Exhaust Tip - 1-1/2" diameter+'''Racing Pipe''' for replacing the converter.
-* Merit 9821+<br>{{Album|24463}}
- +
-== Aftermarket 1.75 ==+
-* Walker Super Turbo WLK-17771+
-* Dynomax 17771, 160 cfm+
-* WALKER Pro-Fit Muffler, 1.75" offset/center, #17881 +
-* Magnaflow 11123 with offset. Might be too long, it is 14" body, but it is Stainless Steel, best buy+
-* Borla XR-1: BOR-40483 Stainless Steel, 1.75 in, 2.25 out+
-Search for these using http://google.com or http://www.napaonline.com+Budget racing pipe
 +<br>{{UploadPost|20817_57d86ed22bbb9.jpg|481196}}
-== Can Muffler ==+Slimline catalyst
-Hot-dog style mufflers (cannons or "fart cans") are mainly for looks. Having the muffler at the very end of the exhaust makes it louder, and most cans are fiberglass packed tubes ("glass-pack") which are by nature noisy. They are simply a straight-through pipe with baffles in the tube sides.+<br>{{Album|14935}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2539 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/2539.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2951 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/2951.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4397 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/4397.jpg] +B211 catalyst piping
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=13423 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/13423.jpg]+<br>{{UploadPost|174_57d87e3a446e9.jpg|481198}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=17076 When fitting] a can muffler, it is advised to also fit a large normal muffler under the car.+= Exhaust Pipe Gasket =
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/17076.jpg</img>+{{SeeMainArticle!|Exhaust Manifold#Gasket}}
-<img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/10512.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10512 album] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10511 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/10511.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10513 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/10513.jpg]+= Muffler =
- +{{Main|Muffler}}
-= Arms =+
-http://www.arms-eng.com+
- +
-ARMS - stainless side tubes to fit 1200 ute. Volume 94db. Main pipe &#966;50, tail end &#966;50 (2" pipes). Dual slash cut or straight cut.+
- +
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=25595 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/25595.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=25603 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/25603.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=25596 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/25596.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=25597 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/25597.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24947 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/24947.jpg]+
- +
-= Nismo =+
-"FISCO" and "NISMO" was fitted to Sunny Truck with A15+
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=25539 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/25539.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=25540 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/25540.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=25541 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/thumbs/25541.jpg]+{{Album!|22334}}
= Extractors = = Extractors =
- See main article: [[Headers]]+ See Main Article: [[Headers]]
= System = = System =
-David Vizard says exhaust pipe diameter makes a significant difference. +David Vizard says exhaust pipe diameter makes a significant difference.<blockquote>In practice though it is better, especially for a street-driven machine, to have pipes a little too small rather than a little too big. If the pipes are too large a fair chunk of torque can be lost without actually gaining much in the way of top-end power.</blockquote>
-<blockquote>In practice though it is better, especially for a street-driven machine, to have pipes a little too small rather than a little too big. If the pipes are too large a fair chunk of torque can be lost without actually gaining much in the way of top-end power.</blockquote>+More interesting is about the tuned-header and collector lengths:<blockquote>on a well-tuned race engine ... the exhaust system draws on the intake port as much as 500 percent harder than the piston going down the bore...the exhaust is the principal means of induction, not the piston moving down the bore.</blockquote>
- +
-More interesting is about the tuned-header and collector lengths:+
- +
-<blockquote>on a well-tuned race engine ... the exhaust system draws on the intake port as much as 500 percent harder than the piston going down the bore...the exhaust is the principal means of induction, not the piston moving down the bore.</blockquote>+
Vizard recommends a sized extractor and a resonator box placed at the correct length. Then after the resonator it doesn't matter how long the exhaust pipe is or what muffler type is used (open chamber or glass pack). Without a resonator the type of muffler makes a huge difference on horsepower. Vizard recommends a sized extractor and a resonator box placed at the correct length. Then after the resonator it doesn't matter how long the exhaust pipe is or what muffler type is used (open chamber or glass pack). Without a resonator the type of muffler makes a huge difference on horsepower.
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-<br>Pick an appropriate length from the collector. This makes a huge difference on high overlap camshafts and not just a "dyno difference". There is no "correct length" for all A12 engines. It depends on how you build the engine. What cam do you have? Where do you want the max HP to occur? Via the length you can shift the power band somewhat. +<br>Pick an appropriate length from the collector. This makes a huge difference on high overlap camshafts and not just a "dyno difference". There is no "correct length" for all A12 engines. It depends on how you build the engine. What cam do you have? Where do you want the max HP to occur? Via the length you can shift the power band somewhat.
Having a proper length (long) collector can provide a lot more HP while in the power band. Up to 22% more. So it's definitely worth doing. Having a proper length (long) collector can provide a lot more HP while in the power band. Up to 22% more. So it's definitely worth doing.
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Current revision

The Datsun 1200 used a 1-1/2 inch exhaust system. The cast iron exhaust manifold has a flat two-bolt flange. A built-in bulge of the pipe was used to seal to the exhaust pipe, which extended past the rear axle. Finally a very, very quiet muffler with a short tail pipe was suspended by two rubber rings. The factory Datsun 1200 muffler was so quiet you couldn't hear the engine at idle.

Contents

Overview

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Terminology

Exhaust Pipe, Muffler, Tail Pipe
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Exhaust Manifold and Exhaust Pipe
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Exhaust insulators: Rubber tailpipe hanger, Ring muffler hangers
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Original mufflers came with integrated exhaust pipe - Bottom (old) is the factory piece
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B210 is similar: 20100-H5000
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#A12GX Exhaust from twin carb models used a quieter exhaust with a small resonator as well the regular muffler:
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In addition the rubber hangers at the very end of the pipe and the muffler rubber hangers, B310 used a solid hanger at the end of the transmission:
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Factory muffler: B110, B110A, PB110, PB110A, B110 GX, B110 GXA, B110 GX5
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Sizing for Performance

A large diameter exhaust pipe is needed for maximum high-rpm horsepower. However, a small diameter pipe is needed to boost low-rpm horsepower. So you can see that a properly sized pipe -- not too big or too small -- is advantageous.

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Single Exhaust
* Stock 62 horsepower A10: 35mm (~1-3/8")
* Stock 68/69 horsepower A12: 1.5" (38mm)
* A12 GX 83 horsepower: 1.5"
* modded A-series engine: 1.75"
* Max fuel econdomy: 1.5"
* 108 hp engine: 1.75"
* 144 hp engine: 2"
* 185 hp engine: 2.25"
* 232 hp engine: 2.5"
* 339 hp engine: 3"

Of course you can vary this. For example:

  • The larger the engine relative to your car, you can get away with a larger pipe
  • For better street driveability, go a size smaller
  • For drag racing where it is flat-out full throttle, a larger size may work fine

2.5 inch works too, but results in less HP than 1.75 inch pipe
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Although the larger pipe cuts down on low-rpm horsepower, if you have a big engine it's not so bad. Large exhaust increases high-rpm (peak) horsepower slightly while dropping low-RPM hp significantly.

Large pipes with "turbo" type mufflers sound great, but tend to have annoying resonances.
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To solve the vibation & drone problems encounted with straight-through (turbo) mufflers:

  • Change to a chambered muffler which is baffled
  • or, adjust pipe diameter and length, possibly adding a resonator chamber in the middle of the exhaust system
  • OR, cancel out those specific pipe resonant frequencies. For example, if your exhaust drones loudly at 2,500 RPM, add a side branch pipe that is 28" long. It will cancel the drone and leave all other RPMs alone

3" exhaust system is possible under a 1200 sedan
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Options

See also: Options

An exhaust tube finisher adds a luxurious accent to the rear view. Just by installing it, the impression will be greatly improved.

20321-H2000 B110 chrome tailpipe extension (bell-shaped)
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20321-H2500 B110 option, B210 option exhaust finisher
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Coupe vs Sedan vs Wagon

coupe muffler
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  • The bends are slightly different.
  • The hanger near the end of the tailpipe (in the photo: where the price tag is) is a different place for sedan vs coupe

Sedan/Coupe/Wagon differ - left: exhaust pipe, right:muffler/tailpipe
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A12GX Exhaust

A12GX exhaust from A12GX Engine (twin carb) models used a quieter exhaust with a small resonator as well the regular muffler:
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Notice the GX also used a cast header with dual outlets -- See Exhaust Manifold
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downpipe portion of the exhaust pipe
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GX used the stock muffler (coupe or sedan version) along with these special parts:

20010-H2301 ASS'Y-TUBE, exhaust front GX
20010-H3400 ASS'Y-TUBE, exhaust front GXA
20010-H7200 ASS'Y-TUBE, exhaust front 5 speed
20321-H2500 FINISHER-exhaust GL,GX < 20321-H2000

chrome tail pipe Finisher
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For the B110 1200 there were three different GX tubes:

  • GX
  • GX Automatic
  • GX5

Only difference being the bend of the tube. Subtle difference

Exhaust Tube with resonator
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Exhaust good for an engine with 20% more HP. Same tube diameter as regular
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Complete the GX exhaust with Sedan or Coupe muffler/tail pipe assemblies. Result is super-quiet yet more powerful.
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Part Numbers

Truck, Early

To 1978, a single muffler was used.
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FRONT EXHAUST TUBE ASS'Y
20010-G0002 SB
20010-G1601 SB 7510-8503
20010-G1401 LB
20010-G1611 LB 7510-8503
MUFFLER WITH REAR TUBE
20100-G1003
20100-G1600 7510-7907
20100-G1660 7908-8503 > 20100-G1600

Truck, Mid-model

From 1978 to 1989, a rear resonator was used.
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FRONT EXHAUST TUBE ASS'Y
20010-G1900 SB 8504-8910
20010-G1910 LB 8504-8910
MUFFLER WITH REAR TUBE
20100-G1901 8504-8910
20673 CLAMP-EXHAUST TUBE

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Nichira manufacture
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Truck, Late

From October 1989, a Catalytic Converter was used.
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FRONT EXHAUST TUBE ASS'Y
20010-95W00 8910-9401
20010-95W02 9402-
MUFFLER WITH REAR TUBE
20100-95W01 SB 8910-
20100-95W11 LB 8910-
20711 GASKET-EXHAUST
  20691-G5100 8910-9401
  20691-51E01 9401-
20711M GASKET-EXHAUST
  20692-02E00 8910-9208
  20692-1E810 9208-
20520 INSULATOR-HEAT, EXHAUST TUBE CENTER LOWER
  20532-95W10 LB
20522 INSULATOR-HEAT, EXHAUST TUBE CENTER LOWER
  20530-95W00 SB
  20530-95W10 LB
20540 INSULATOR-HEAT, EXHAUST MUFFLER
  20540-95W01 SB + LB
20731 BRACKET-EXHAUST MOUNTING
  20720-95W00 SB + LB
20802-G5126 THREE WAY CATALYST 8910- <> 20802-81A26
20624 INSULATOR ASSY-EXHAUST MOUNTING
20630-G1001 ALL (2)
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* fixes muffler to chassis

9401- Front Exhaust Tube (uses 51E donut type gasket)
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EXHAUST GASKET manifold-to-pipe
20691-G5100 flat type 8910-9401
20691-51E01 ring type 9401-
EXHAUST GASKET pipe-to-converter
20692-02E00 8910-9208
20692-1E810 9208-
20691-51E01
BECK/ARNLEY 0396441 $3 rockauto.com
FEL-PRO 60905
VICTOR REINZ F31814
* A32B 0601- VQ30DE
* A33B 0499- VQ30DE
* B13 0890- SR20DE
* B15U 0100- SR20DE/QG18DE
* D22U 0898- KA24DE
* L30 0697- KA24DE
* U13U 0893- KA24DE
* WD22 0599- KA24DE

20691-51E01 Steel ring gasket
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Converter

To meet 1988 'R' emission standards, a 3-way catalytic converter was fitted. Due to the converter beneath the floor, a special passenger seat is used.

CATALYTIC CONVERTER GASKET
Nissan 20692-M3060
BECK/ARNLEY 0396035
* 720 L20B, Z20/Z22/Z24
* 910 L24E
* B11 E15X/E16S
* N10 A14/A15/E15S
* N12 E16S
* S110 Z20E/Z22E
* S12 CA18ET/CA20E
* S130 L28E/L28ET
* T11 CA20S/CA20E
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20802-G5126 THREE WAY CATALYST < 20852-81A26 コンバーター、カタリスト ウイズ シェルター
20802A 01121-00751 BOLT 4
20853-53A00 LOWER SHELTER シェルター、コンバーター ロア
22740-95W00 [EXH TEMP] SENSOR ASSY-CATALYST センサー アッセンブリー、カタリスト

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Racing Pipe for replacing the converter.
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Budget racing pipe
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Slimline catalyst
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B211 catalyst piping
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Exhaust Pipe Gasket

See Main Article: Exhaust Manifold#Gasket

Muffler

Main: Muffler

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Extractors

See Main Article: Headers

System

David Vizard says exhaust pipe diameter makes a significant difference.
In practice though it is better, especially for a street-driven machine, to have pipes a little too small rather than a little too big. If the pipes are too large a fair chunk of torque can be lost without actually gaining much in the way of top-end power.
More interesting is about the tuned-header and collector lengths:
on a well-tuned race engine ... the exhaust system draws on the intake port as much as 500 percent harder than the piston going down the bore...the exhaust is the principal means of induction, not the piston moving down the bore.

Vizard recommends a sized extractor and a resonator box placed at the correct length. Then after the resonator it doesn't matter how long the exhaust pipe is or what muffler type is used (open chamber or glass pack). Without a resonator the type of muffler makes a huge difference on horsepower.

  • For racing, don't worry about equal length extractors, it's a waste of time.
  • For a downdraft induction system, don't mess with the length of the extractor primaries
  • The collector length is where you should concentrate your efforts
  • At the end of the collector length fit a large expansion chamber (pressure wave termination box)
  • The chamber should be 8 to 15 times the volume of one cylinder (larger is better). For an A12 this works out to about 3 liters.

Collector Length:
Pick an appropriate length from the collector. This makes a huge difference on high overlap camshafts and not just a "dyno difference". There is no "correct length" for all A12 engines. It depends on how you build the engine. What cam do you have? Where do you want the max HP to occur? Via the length you can shift the power band somewhat.

Having a proper length (long) collector can provide a lot more HP while in the power band. Up to 22% more. So it's definitely worth doing.

Discussion by jmac: Extractor selection

Long collector
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Stock collector
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Turbocharged

2.5" off turbo for about 2" then 3" all the way all mandrell bent a straight through offset centre muffler and a resonator at the rear with a 3.5" tip
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