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-The Toyota 4A engine variations are a popular swap into Datsun 1200s. These are 1600cc engines, so are a significant upgrade in terms of cubic inches alone. However, it is the [[wikipedia:DOHC|DOHC]] 4AGE that shines with impressive power. Also notable is the [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=555&forum=1 4AGEZ supercharged] engine from the [[wikipedia:Toyota MR2|Toyota MR2]].+The {{wiki|Toyota A engine}} variations are a popular swap into Datsun 1200s, especially the 4A-GE (1600cc) which is the most common high-power version.
 +{{Album|2146}}
-NOTE to newbys: Beware of mentioning rotary-powered or [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6388&forum=1#11341 Toyota 4AGE]-powered 1200s. Some club members may get offended! But really, these are also excellent engines that fit in fairly well. Just don't tell anybody ;-)+= About =
 +Toyota 4A engine series are 1600cc engines, so are a significant upgrade in terms of cubic CCs alone compared to the Datsun A12 or A14. However, it is the {{wiki|DOHC}} 4A-GE that shines with impressive power due to 4 valves per cylinder (16V).
-Counterpoint: The 4AGE weighs the same as the better engine... Nissan's CA18DE. The CA18DE is 200cc larger, has bigger everything. So you can get away with the same mods as a 4age and get more power. +4AGE 16V engine is arguably one of the best 1.6 litre motors ever put together. 75KW to 100KW power ratings.
 + 
 +NOTE to newbys: Beware of mentioning rotary-powered or 4A-GE-powered 1200s. Some club members may get offended! But really, these are also excellent engines that fit in fairly well. Just don't tell anybody ;-)
 + 
 +{{Album|18188}}
 + 
 +<blockquote>Counterpoint: The 4AGE weighs the same as the better engine... Nissan's CA18DE. The CA18DE is 200cc more capacity, has bigger everything. So for the same mods as a 4age, you can [[CA|swap in a CA engine]] and get more power.</blockquote>
The biggest thing that has to be done was a fabricated header, because the 4A manifold is large and does not clear the LHD steering box. You may not have any trouble with a RHD car. The biggest thing that has to be done was a fabricated header, because the 4A manifold is large and does not clear the LHD steering box. You may not have any trouble with a RHD car.
 +{| class="wiki_table"
 +|+ Datsun A15 vs Toyota 4A-**
 +! !! Datsun A15 !! 4A-FE !! 4A-GE (Gen 3) !! 4A-GZE (AE101)
 +|-
 +! Bore
 +| 76 mm || 81 mm || 81 mm || 81 mm
 +|-
 +! Stroke
 +| 82 mm || 77 mm || 77 mm || 77 mm
 +|-
 +! Displacement
 +| 1488 cc || 1587 cc || 1587 cc || 1587 cc
 +|-
 +! Power
 +| 81 hp (60 kW) || 89 hp (66 kW) || 138 hp (103 kW) || 168 hp (125 kW)
 +|-
 +|}
-= Swap Overview =+Also notable is the 4AGEZ supercharged engine from the Toyota MR2.
-The conversion isn't bolt-on its all fab work: + 
-* Engine mounts+ 4AGE 20V engine: 120 kw
-* Gearbox mount+ {{Album|4065}}
-* Custom cooling system pipes+ 
-* Custom exhaust+Although some have been able to extract more power from the cheaper 4A-FE SOHC engine. The upside is that they are very easily obtainable and so are parts. They are a narrow angle SOHC (single sprocket) cross-flow alloy head with a cast iron block.
-No one sells a "kit" to fit the 4AGE into a Datsun 1200.+
-FWD 4AGE's use a distributor which ends up in the 1200 glovebox and heater/demister box. This means modifying all that. That isn't easy. It's almost always a FWD engine in Australia, unless you can get a Japanese RWD AE86 Engine.+* 4A-GE (wide angle DOHC) Come in 5 flavours ranging from 86kW (Gen 2) up to 121kW (Gen 5) 20 Valve.
 +* 4A-GEZ supercharged. Some use this motor and its fuel system and computer for a turbo setup although simply replacing the cast pistons with forged items in a 4A-GE will yield the same result (except that an aftermarket ECU will be needed). The advantage over the supercharger is that boost can be variably controlled using and adjustable wastegate or boost controller. A supercharger has a fixed design boost, although aftermarket overdrive pulleys are available. They don't like to be spun more that around 8000 rpm as the teflon coatings on the roots can melt.
 +{{Album|19928}}
= Source for Engine = = Source for Engine =
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* AE71 was the 1983 Corolla, with carbureted 4AS SOHC engine. * AE71 was the 1983 Corolla, with carbureted 4AS SOHC engine.
* AE85/AE86 was the last RWD series (1984-1986) with fuel injected DOHC 4AGE engine * AE85/AE86 was the last RWD series (1984-1986) with fuel injected DOHC 4AGE engine
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=826 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/826.jpg] Toyota Twin-Cam+{{Album|826|jpg|400}}
 +* {{wiki|Toyota MR2}} had the supercharged 4A-GEZ version
 +4AGZE: factory supercharged motor with about 135KW. It has factory forged pistons with later variants with ceramic coated tops, suitable for forced induction and perfect for aftermarket turbo as well. The con-rods and crank are the same or similar to 4age. (eg early AE92 4agze has larger rods). The 4agze smallport head will also come with oil squirter pistons, another good thing for cooling high performance setups. This std setup is strong enough for +200kw hence the reason people grab them for turbo setups with no reason to upgrade pistons, rods or the crank. They are 25kgs lighter than a Nissan [[Nissan CA Engine|CA18DET]] engine. Most people take off the supercharger and place on a turbo for much better performance and then loosely call it a "4AGTE". If you were hunting for max power, then a 7afe block with 4agze internals, turbo and some other mods would bump it to a 1.8L, also known as the "7agte". Maximum powered 7agtes can reach +300kw at the wheels with custom pistons, crank & rods.
-4AGE 16V engine is arguably one of the best 1.6 litre motors ever put together. 75KW to 100KW power ratings. The suzuki g13b or g16b weigh 15kgs less than an a15. At around 80kgs the nearest rival is the 4age at 130kg. 108 rwhp from a stock 4AGE.+Formula Atlantic 4A-GE puts out 240 bhp.
-4AGE 20V engine: 120 kw.+= Swap Overview =
-* 4065+
-4AGZE: factory supercharged motor with about 135KW. It has stronger con-rods and pistons fitted as standard, thus more suited to forced induction without much change. They are 25kgs lighter than a Nissan [[CA18 engine|CA18DET]] engine. Most people take off the supercharger and place on a turbo for much better performance and then loosely call it a "4AGTE".+ [{{Post|9500}} Swap Toyota 4AGE into 1200]
-Formula Atlantic 4AGE puts out 240 bhp.+{{Album|26020}}
 +The conversion isn't bolt-on -- its all fab work:
 +* Engine mounts
 +* Gearbox mount
 +* Custom cooling system pipes
 +* Custom exhaust
 +No one sells a "kit" to fit the 4AGE into a Datsun 1200.
-= Gearbox =+20V 4AGE's use a distributor which ends up in the 1200 glovebox and heater/demister box. This means modifying all that. That isn't easy.
-Use the gearbox that came with the engine. Don't try to fit it to the Datsun gearbox, because the Toyota box is much stronger.+
-There is just enough room for the t50 in a Datsun 1200 manual tunnel. The 1200's speedometer cable screws straight on.+Front-wheel-drive 4AGE uses a distributor which ends up in the 1200 glovebox and heater/demister box. Modifying all that isn't easy. It's almost always a FWD engine in Australia, unless you can get a Japanese RWD AE86 Engine.
-T50 tranmission is less expensive than the Supra W55 box & plenty strong enough for the 4AGE. They've been putting them behind 5 litre Holden & Ford V8's for years. The w55 conversion for 4AGE is $1000-up (for new parts), not including the w55 itself. Don't have to cut the tunnel, put in a T50 5 speed, just cut off the two mounts in the tunnel, cleanly and the box fits perfectly.+= Projects =
 +{{Album|8867}} {{Album|14412}} {{Album|17185}}
-T50 is good to handle the torque from a 4AGE, but not from a 4AGZE (supercharged engine). A turbo conversion should be OK at low boosts. Otherwise you'll need a stronger tranmission like this one:+Ruda's 11-sec Bakkie
 +<br>{{Album|2080|jpeg}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11928 ]+== Zoom 153 ==
 +4AGE STREET ELITE DATTO white ute 'DATOOW' "Third time's a charm" page 20. In its third incarnation Simon Vella's 1200 Ute is a stunning showcase of a well thought-out performance package that goes, turns stops and looks damn good doing so.
-For drag racing, an automatic is fastest. Use Ford C4, or Toyota Trimatic. Both require custom bellhousing. +{{Album|26726}} {{Album|26727}} {{Album|26728}} {{Thumb|26724}} {{Thumb|26725}}
-Since this is not Datsun-specific, For more details, search http://www.toyota-mods.org/ or visit http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBySubject/Gearboxe 
-s.html 
- 
- 
-= Differential = 
-The AE86 rear live axle assembly is strong, and bolts into the Datsun 1200. Put the whole thing in there, and use the Toyota wheels while you're at it. 
- 
-= Projects = 
==DatsunDonnie== ==DatsunDonnie==
-Donnie in [[Canada|Victoria, Canada]] has a fantastic [[Engine swaps|4AGE-powered]] 2-door sedan:+Donnie in [[Canada|Victoria, Canada]] has a fantastic 4AGE-powered 2-door sedan:
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3020 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/3020.jpg]+<br>{{Album|3020}}
Had it at the drags the other night-15.95@86mph sound good? 7100 RPM through the traps! Had it at the drags the other night-15.95@86mph sound good? 7100 RPM through the traps!
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4002 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/4002.jpg]+{{Album|4002}} {{Album|3019}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3019 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/3019.jpg]+Donnie used the stock Datsun 1200 radiator.
 +== dongdong B310 ==
 +{{Album|15206}} {{Album|15215}}
-Donnie used the stock Datsun 1200 radiator.+== GX Monster ==
 +South Africa
 + 
 +{{Album|8868}} {{Album|14762}} {{Album|14763}} {{Album|14761}}
 +== Kululadotgroen ==
 +In Cape Town, South Africa there is this one:
-==Kululadotgroen==+{{Album|15125}} {{Album|16548}}
-In Rooihuiskraal there is this one:+
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9675 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9675.jpg]+{{SeeMainArticle!|Kululadotgroen}}
== Jason's 1200 Coupe== == Jason's 1200 Coupe==
Out of Vancouver, WA: Out of Vancouver, WA:
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1609 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1609.jpg]+<br>{{Album|1609}} {{Album|4003}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4003 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/4003.jpg]+
* Toyota 4AGE DOHC engine * Toyota 4AGE DOHC engine
-* [[5-speeds#Toyota T50 5-speed|Toyota T50 5-speed]]+* [[T50 5-speed|Toyota T50 5-speed]]
* Corolla EFI fuel tank is in the back compartment * Corolla EFI fuel tank is in the back compartment
* 77 Corolla SR5 rear with LSD pumpkin * 77 Corolla SR5 rear with LSD pumpkin
* 175/70R-13 tires * 175/70R-13 tires
 +
 +== Randoli ==
 +4A-GZE conversion. Use EMS [[ECU]] and removed the MAF sensor
 +<br>{{Album|21259}} {{Album|18548}}
==3Rotor== ==3Rotor==
-See all pics from 10936 - 10947, starting with:+{{Album|10936}} {{Album|10937}} {{Album|10938}} {{Album|10939}} {{Album|10940}} {{Album|10941}} {{Album|10942}} {{Album|10943}} {{Album|10944}} {{Album|10945}} {{Album|10946}} {{Album|10947}}
- +
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10936 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10936.jpg]+
==Wogboy== ==Wogboy==
-Turbo conversion+4A Turbo conversion
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=7634 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/7634.jpg]+{{Main|GETUPA}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=7216 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/7216.jpg]+
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6406 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/6406.jpg]+
-The clutch is original datto 1200. I used the datsun clutch fork and cut the opposite side of the bellhousing on the t50. Then is used the toyota thrust race, ground down the datto clutch fork to clear , then welded a couple of allen keys(strong steel) to reinforce the clutch fork. The result was the sweetest clutch action I have ever felt. Lucky but amazing.So I have a mechanical clutch.+{{Album!|7216}}
==Normo's Ute== ==Normo's Ute==
(now sold) (now sold)
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4639 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/4639.jpg]+gearbox | crossmember
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=4642 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/4642.jpg]gearbox crossmember+<br>{{Album|4642}} {{Album|4639}} {{Album|4640}} {{Album|4641}} {{Album|5456}} {{Album|5457}}
- +
= Swap Notes = = Swap Notes =
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* http://www.club4ag.com * http://www.club4ag.com
 +== Engine Fitting ==
 +{{Album|9507}} {{Album|9506}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9515 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9515.jpg] Engine Mount Left[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9493 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9493.jpg]+Modified 1200 crossmember
 +<br>{{Album|8884}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9514 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9514.jpg] Engine Mount Right [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9492 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9492.jpg]+Engine Mount Left
 +<br>{{Album|9515}} {{Album|9493}}
 +Engine Mount Right
 +<br>{{Album|9514}} {{Album|9492}} {{Album|10002}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9499 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9499.jpg] Sump Fitment+Sump Fitment
 +<br>{{Album|9499}}
The 4A has a front sump oil pan, actually shorter than the a12, so you can position it lower in the chassis. The 4A has a front sump oil pan, actually shorter than the a12, so you can position it lower in the chassis.
 +front clearance | rear clearance
 +<br>{{Album|9494}} {{Album|9491}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9494 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9494.jpg] front clearance+Air Inlet
 +<br>{{Album|9508}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9491 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9491.jpg] rear clearance+Stock manifold dimensions
 +<br>{{Album|14388}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9508 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9508.jpg] Air Inlet+(optional) [[Headers]]/Extractors
 +<br>{{Album|14711}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9507 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9507.jpg] Engine [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9506 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9506.jpg]+Lots of room in B310 engine bay
 +<br>{{Album|18246}}
 +== Clutch & Flywheel ==
 +OPTIONAL - lighten flywheel
 +<br>{{Album|14583}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9498 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9498.jpg] Gearbox [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9497 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9497.jpg][http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9496 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9496.jpg]+== Gearbox ==
 +Use the gearbox that came with the engine. Don't try to fit it to the Datsun gearbox, because the Toyota box is much stronger.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9495 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9495.jpg] Shifter+The 1200's speedometer cable screws straight on.
 +There is just enough room for the t50 in a Datsun 1200 manual tunnel -- no need to cut the tunnel out.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9509 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9509.jpg] [[Radiator|VW Golf Radiator]]+{{Album|9495}} {{AlbumH|26021|jpg|266}}
 +T50 transmission is less expensive than the Supra W55 box & plenty strong enough for the 4AGE. They've been putting them behind 5 litre Holden & Ford V8's for years. The w55 conversion for 4AGE is $1000-up (for new parts), not including the w55 itself. Don't have to cut the tunnel, put in a T50 5 speed, just cut off the two mounts in the tunnel, cleanly and the box fits perfectly.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9673 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9673.jpg] Water pump hose+Or if you live where W55 is cheap (South Africa) use the R900 conversion bell housing
 +<br>{{Album|9498}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9672 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9672.jpg] Radiator [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9517 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9517.jpg]+T50 is good to handle the torque from a little 1.6 liter 4AGE, but not from a 4AGZE (supercharged engine). A turbo conversion should be OK at low boosts. Otherwise you'll need a stronger transmission like this one:
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9671 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9671.jpg] Water bottle [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9670 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9670.jpg]+Toyota W gearbox
 +<br>{{Album|11928}}
 +For drag racing, an automatic is fastest. Use Ford C4, or Toyota Trimatic. Both require custom bellhousing.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9522 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9522.jpg] Pedal Boxes+Since this is not Datsun-specific, For more details, search:
 +* http://www.toyota-mods.org
 +* [http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/9975/dataBySubject/Gearboxes.html Motorcity Gearboxes]
-Brake booster+Gearbox
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9521 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9521.jpg][http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9520 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9520.jpg][http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9519 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9519.jpg]+<br>{{Album|9498}} {{Album|9497}} {{Album|9496}}
 +Shifter
 +<br>{{Album|9495}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9669 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9669.jpg] Brake booster [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9525 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9525.jpg][http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9524 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9524.jpg]+== Differential ==
 +The AE86 rear live axle assembly is strong, and is narrow enough to fit under a Datsun 1200. Put the whole thing in there, and use the Toyota alloy wheels while you're at it.
 +AE86 is the RWD Toyota Corolla 1983-1986 ([[Corolla#E85.2FE86_vs_Nobody|E80 series]]). The most desirable rear axle is from the GTS model (AE88) with disc brakes. Some were fitted with [[LSD]], but if not TRD sells one. This model came with 14" alloy wheels instead of the 13" common to most AE86. It also had the stronger T282/T284 differential.
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9668 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9668.jpg] clutch pedal [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9526 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9526.jpg]+== Radiator ==
 +[[Radiator_Upgrades#Brand_new_aluminum_radiator.2C_.2443_USD|VW Golf Radiator]]
 +<br>{{Album|9509}} {{Album|9672}} {{Album|9517}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10002 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10002.jpg] right mount+Water pump hose
 +<br>{{Album|9673}}
-= Discussions = +VW Water bottle
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=26023&forum=1 Datsun 1200 (4agze TURBO)Conversion]+<br>{{Album|9671}} {{Album|9670}}
-* [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=25138&forum=1 4331] 4AGE into Datsun 1000+
 +== Brake Booster & Clutch Pedal ==
 +Toyota gearbox uses hydraulic clutch pedal.
-= Photo Index =+Pedal Boxes
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2146 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2146.jpg] +<br>{{Album|9522}}
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2080 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2080.jpg] Ruda's 11-sec Bakkie+Brake booster
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=826 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/826.jpg] +<br>{{Album|9521}} {{Album|9520}} {{Album|9519}} {{Album|9669}} {{Album|9525}} {{Album|9524}}
 + 
 +clutch pedal
 +<br>{{Album|9668}} {{Album|9526}}
 + 
 += Discussions =
 + * [{{Post|143074}} Datsun 1200 (4agze TURBO) Conversion]
 + * [{{Post|135956}} 4AGE into Datsun 1000]
 + {{Album|4331}} {{Album|16189}}
-[[Category:Engine Modifications]]+[[Category:Engine Swaps]]{{End}}

Current revision

The Toyota A engine variations are a popular swap into Datsun 1200s, especially the 4A-GE (1600cc) which is the most common high-power version.

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About

Toyota 4A engine series are 1600cc engines, so are a significant upgrade in terms of cubic CCs alone compared to the Datsun A12 or A14. However, it is the DOHC 4A-GE that shines with impressive power due to 4 valves per cylinder (16V).

4AGE 16V engine is arguably one of the best 1.6 litre motors ever put together. 75KW to 100KW power ratings.

NOTE to newbys: Beware of mentioning rotary-powered or 4A-GE-powered 1200s. Some club members may get offended! But really, these are also excellent engines that fit in fairly well. Just don't tell anybody ;-)

18188.jpgAlbum 18188

Counterpoint: The 4AGE weighs the same as the better engine... Nissan's CA18DE. The CA18DE is 200cc more capacity, has bigger everything. So for the same mods as a 4age, you can swap in a CA engine and get more power.

The biggest thing that has to be done was a fabricated header, because the 4A manifold is large and does not clear the LHD steering box. You may not have any trouble with a RHD car.

Datsun A15 vs Toyota 4A-**
Datsun A15 4A-FE 4A-GE (Gen 3) 4A-GZE (AE101)
Bore 76 mm 81 mm 81 mm 81 mm
Stroke 82 mm 77 mm 77 mm 77 mm
Displacement 1488 cc 1587 cc 1587 cc 1587 cc
Power 81 hp (60 kW) 89 hp (66 kW) 138 hp (103 kW) 168 hp (125 kW)

Also notable is the 4AGEZ supercharged engine from the Toyota MR2.

4AGE 20V engine: 120 kw
4065.jpgAlbum 4065

Although some have been able to extract more power from the cheaper 4A-FE SOHC engine. The upside is that they are very easily obtainable and so are parts. They are a narrow angle SOHC (single sprocket) cross-flow alloy head with a cast iron block.

  • 4A-GE (wide angle DOHC) Come in 5 flavours ranging from 86kW (Gen 2) up to 121kW (Gen 5) 20 Valve.
  • 4A-GEZ supercharged. Some use this motor and its fuel system and computer for a turbo setup although simply replacing the cast pistons with forged items in a 4A-GE will yield the same result (except that an aftermarket ECU will be needed). The advantage over the supercharger is that boost can be variably controlled using and adjustable wastegate or boost controller. A supercharger has a fixed design boost, although aftermarket overdrive pulleys are available. They don't like to be spun more that around 8000 rpm as the teflon coatings on the roots can melt.

19928.jpgAlbum 19928

Source for Engine

RWD 4A Engines

  • AE71 was the 1983 Corolla, with carbureted 4AS SOHC engine.
  • AE85/AE86 was the last RWD series (1984-1986) with fuel injected DOHC 4AGE engine

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  • Toyota MR2 had the supercharged 4A-GEZ version

4AGZE: factory supercharged motor with about 135KW. It has factory forged pistons with later variants with ceramic coated tops, suitable for forced induction and perfect for aftermarket turbo as well. The con-rods and crank are the same or similar to 4age. (eg early AE92 4agze has larger rods). The 4agze smallport head will also come with oil squirter pistons, another good thing for cooling high performance setups. This std setup is strong enough for +200kw hence the reason people grab them for turbo setups with no reason to upgrade pistons, rods or the crank. They are 25kgs lighter than a Nissan CA18DET engine. Most people take off the supercharger and place on a turbo for much better performance and then loosely call it a "4AGTE". If you were hunting for max power, then a 7afe block with 4agze internals, turbo and some other mods would bump it to a 1.8L, also known as the "7agte". Maximum powered 7agtes can reach +300kw at the wheels with custom pistons, crank & rods.

Formula Atlantic 4A-GE puts out 240 bhp.

Swap Overview

POST Swap Toyota 4AGE into 1200

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The conversion isn't bolt-on -- its all fab work:

  • Engine mounts
  • Gearbox mount
  • Custom cooling system pipes
  • Custom exhaust

No one sells a "kit" to fit the 4AGE into a Datsun 1200.

20V 4AGE's use a distributor which ends up in the 1200 glovebox and heater/demister box. This means modifying all that. That isn't easy.

Front-wheel-drive 4AGE uses a distributor which ends up in the 1200 glovebox and heater/demister box. Modifying all that isn't easy. It's almost always a FWD engine in Australia, unless you can get a Japanese RWD AE86 Engine.

Projects

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Ruda's 11-sec Bakkie
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4AGE STREET ELITE DATTO white ute 'DATOOW' "Third time's a charm" page 20. In its third incarnation Simon Vella's 1200 Ute is a stunning showcase of a well thought-out performance package that goes, turns stops and looks damn good doing so.

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DatsunDonnie

Donnie in Victoria, Canada has a fantastic 4AGE-powered 2-door sedan:
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Had it at the drags the other night-15.95@86mph sound good? 7100 RPM through the traps!

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Donnie used the stock Datsun 1200 radiator.

dongdong B310

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GX Monster

South Africa

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Kululadotgroen

In Cape Town, South Africa there is this one:

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See Main Article: Kululadotgroen

Jason's 1200 Coupe

Out of Vancouver, WA:
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  • Toyota 4AGE DOHC engine
  • Toyota T50 5-speed
  • Corolla EFI fuel tank is in the back compartment
  • 77 Corolla SR5 rear with LSD pumpkin
  • 175/70R-13 tires

Randoli

4A-GZE conversion. Use EMS ECU and removed the MAF sensor
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3Rotor

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Wogboy

4A Turbo conversion

Main: GETUPA

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Normo's Ute

(now sold)

gearbox | crossmember
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Swap Notes

Engine Fitting

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Modified 1200 crossmember
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Engine Mount Left
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Engine Mount Right
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Sump Fitment
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The 4A has a front sump oil pan, actually shorter than the a12, so you can position it lower in the chassis.

front clearance | rear clearance
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Air Inlet
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Stock manifold dimensions
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(optional) Headers/Extractors
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Lots of room in B310 engine bay
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Clutch & Flywheel

OPTIONAL - lighten flywheel
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Gearbox

Use the gearbox that came with the engine. Don't try to fit it to the Datsun gearbox, because the Toyota box is much stronger.

The 1200's speedometer cable screws straight on.

There is just enough room for the t50 in a Datsun 1200 manual tunnel -- no need to cut the tunnel out.

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T50 transmission is less expensive than the Supra W55 box & plenty strong enough for the 4AGE. They've been putting them behind 5 litre Holden & Ford V8's for years. The w55 conversion for 4AGE is $1000-up (for new parts), not including the w55 itself. Don't have to cut the tunnel, put in a T50 5 speed, just cut off the two mounts in the tunnel, cleanly and the box fits perfectly.

Or if you live where W55 is cheap (South Africa) use the R900 conversion bell housing
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T50 is good to handle the torque from a little 1.6 liter 4AGE, but not from a 4AGZE (supercharged engine). A turbo conversion should be OK at low boosts. Otherwise you'll need a stronger transmission like this one:

Toyota W gearbox
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For drag racing, an automatic is fastest. Use Ford C4, or Toyota Trimatic. Both require custom bellhousing.

Since this is not Datsun-specific, For more details, search:

Gearbox
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Shifter
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Differential

The AE86 rear live axle assembly is strong, and is narrow enough to fit under a Datsun 1200. Put the whole thing in there, and use the Toyota alloy wheels while you're at it.

AE86 is the RWD Toyota Corolla 1983-1986 (E80 series). The most desirable rear axle is from the GTS model (AE88) with disc brakes. Some were fitted with LSD, but if not TRD sells one. This model came with 14" alloy wheels instead of the 13" common to most AE86. It also had the stronger T282/T284 differential.

Radiator

VW Golf Radiator
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Water pump hose
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VW Water bottle
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Brake Booster & Clutch Pedal

Toyota gearbox uses hydraulic clutch pedal.

Pedal Boxes
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Brake booster
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clutch pedal
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Discussions

* POST Datsun 1200 (4agze TURBO) Conversion
* POST 4AGE into Datsun 1000
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