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[Datsun 1200 encyclopedia]

Wheels

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Categories: Options | Wheel And Tire

Aftermarket wheels to suit Datsun 1200 come in a never-ending variety of sizes and shapes.


* Rims A-M
* Rims N-Z

Contents

Ox

Ox Wheels 651 17x7 +40 (use with large spacer)
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Peformance

See Main Article: Performance wheels

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* Challenger
* Lotus
* Spitfire
* Spyker
* Superlite

Racing Forg

See Main Article: Racing Forg

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Ray's

Ray's Wheels

Also see: #Volk Racing

57V gram lights
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57V compare to Williams F1 (upper right)
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Rebel

Rebel Wheel in Wollongong
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13x7
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Riken

Mesh
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River Side

Japan's River Side wheel aka Riverside

Google search

R101 4-point single star; double 4-point is R109 (or Colin Star Shark)
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Revolution

Revolution wheel since 1967. http://www.revolutionwheels.com

classic 4-spoke
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ROH

Astron, Contessa, Reflex, Wildfire, and more classics.

See Main Article: ROH wheels

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Rota

Phillipine Aluminum Wheels Inc.

Rota RB - See Minilite#Rota
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Rota Aleica
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Rota Grid Concave
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Rota Shakotan (similar to Hayashi #Street)
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Shakotan 15x8+0: article
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Zero Plus (similar to WORK#Equip 01
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Simmons

See main article: Simmons

B45, V4/V5, FR/F90, OM
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Southern Ways

Cross, Glids waffle-style, Glids II mesh-style, Wars, Strobo

1979 advert "True 3-piece wheel"
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Glids II

Glids II mesh-type wheels are best identified by a cast S W on the back of the wheel. It can also be identified by the three "digits" in between the four lug holes. By contrast, Speed Star Mesh has a diamond between each lug hole.

  • Fingers between the lug holes (not diamonds)
  • The rim bolts are between the spokes (not at the spoke tips)

Glids II were made in Japan by Southern Ways. In the USA, Epsilon Wheel Corporation of Los Angeles (Mori Corporation) marketed the wheels.

Epsilon Wheel Corporation
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Southern Ways
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Epsilon
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Spalding

1981-1984 Message-II -- 1981 Wheel Of The Year
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Clone: Delta Monarch
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Speed Star

See main article: Speed Star Wheel

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Speedline

Corse 15 x 6.5 14-spoke
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Speedy

http://www.speedywheels.com

Sirocco silver 15"
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Starcorp

See Main Article: Starcorp

The famous Concept 5
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Superlite

Made in Britain http://www.superlite-wheels.com

2004 Range
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Topy

Topy Jovite - see Speed_Star_Wheel#Mark_III
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Topy JMW Crosspider RC-101 - see WORK#Equip_01_clones
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Topy JMW Crossline AD-SCX (1979)
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TSW

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TSW 15" with Yokohama 195-45-15
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Ultra

15" Dual-bolt pattern
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Volk Racing

Volk Racing Wheel by Rays Engineering

TE37
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VR 5-point star
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racing Mesh with octagonal center
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Mesh 15x7
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16" 3-piece Ray's
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VTO

VTO is a retro-wheel manufacturer out of USA. They export their classic-design wheels all over the world.

http://www.vtowheels.com

VTO BRE Libre-style
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VTO Classic 8
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Watanabe

RS Watanabe

See Main Article: Watanabe

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Weld

The ultimate American drag racing wheel

front 15 x 3.5, rear 5 x 8
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15x4 front, 15x8 rear
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Pro Star
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Greg Weld "Prolite" (now Race Star Industries http://www.racestarindustries.com)
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Western

Superlite - see Minilite#Western

Sport
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Work

Equip 01, Equip 03, Ewing

See Main Article: Work

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XXR

http://www.xxrwheels.com

521
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Unknown

BACKFIRE
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similar to GE Sigma SE but with vented center Datsun 1200 uses a common wheel bolt-pattern: 4 bolt holes on 4-1/2 inch circle (aka 4-on-4.5). Nissan engineers specified this in inches. In metric this is equivalent to a 4 x 114.3 PCD (Pitch Circle Diameter). Stock Datsun 1200 wheels are 12 inch diameter, 4J (4 inches wide). All models, even GX models and 1994 Sunny Truck models, used 12" wheels. Only the Datsun 1200 SSS used a special wheel, though still 12" diameter. Wheels up to 18x7 will fit under the stock bodywork.


Stock Wheels

Stock Datsun 1200 wheels are 12Jx4. This includes GX models.

  • 12" diameter
  • 4-inch wide
  • bolt-pattern: 4 on 4-1/2 inch circle (4 x 114.3 PCD)
Comparison of B110, B210, B310 wheels
wheelsB10B1101977 US B210 A141980 NA B310
size3-1/2 J-124 J-124-1/2 J-134-1/2 J-13
5 J-13 (aluminum)
Canada w/A12A: 4J-12
offset?30 mm30mm offset30mm
25 mm (aluminum)
tire size?-126.00-12
155SR-12
155SR-136.00-12
155SR13
175/70SR13
balance10gr or less (0.35 oz)11gr or less10gr or less
lugnut torque  8-9kg-m (58-65 ft-lb)8-9kg-m8-10

NOTE: North American B210 1976-1978 large-brake wheels are 13" but have 4mm extra diameter inside, possibly for clearance of the large brakes. These wheels are same as Datsun 610 and can be identified by six thin slots on the face.

Datsun Option Wheels

Also see: B310_Options#Wheels

Datsun Sunny B210 & B310 factory OPTION B & OPTION C wheels: 13" x 5"
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Options
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40300-N5825 WHEEL SET-ROAD ALUMINIUM, B TYPE (5JX13)
40300-W6625 WHEEL SET-ROAD ALUMINIUM, C TYPE (5JX13)

Also used on 200SX (S10 silvia) 1977-1979

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Option B Wheel

40300-N5825 WHEEL SET-ROAD ALUMINIUM, B TYPE (5JX13) 

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full

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Option C Wheel

40300-W6625 WHEEL SET-ROAD ALUMINIUM, C TYPE (5JX13) 

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B310 Wheels

Datsun Sunny B310 styled steel wheel: 13" x 4.5"
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  • 40300-W8300 WHEEL ASSY-ROAD(4 1/2-JX13) (STYLED) 0879-

NOTE: These do not fit the B110 front hubs due to the shape of the wheel, particularly the deep well hits the B110 brake caliper.

ホイール

Sunny 1200 Race Wheels

Sports Options Catalog | Sports Options Parts
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Race Road Wheel Parts
1 40300-H5021 ROAD WHEEL FR 8Kx14 inch
  40300-H5020 ROAD WHEEL FR 9Kx14 inch
  40397-N3120 SPACER-Safety Bolt (16)
  40398-N3120 SEAL-Rubber (16)
2 40399-H50?? BOLT-Safety (16)
3 40209-A0220 SPACER-Road Wheel (4) for aluminum, t=5
4 40222-A0220 BOLT-Wheel FR (8) M12 x 1.25 x 50
5 40223-A0220 BOLT-Wheel RR (8) M12 x 1.25 x 50
6 40224-H5020 NUT-Wheel (16) (Taper)
7 40224-E7210 NUT-Wheel (16) (Taper) Chrome-plated cap nut

Japanese web page

This is 4-spoke 14-inch. Aluminum alloy instead of the magnesium, size 8J and 9J.
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Lug Nuts

M12x1.25 thread

  • B110: Nuts are 19mm hex head (~3/4 inch)
  • B210: 13/16" lug nuts

See main article Wheel Studs

Torque

From the 1978 B120 factory service manual (English RHD/LHD):

  • 8.0-9.0 kg/m (58-65 ft-lb)

Wheel Balance

From the 1978 B120 factory service manual (English RHD/LHD):

  • Maximum allowable unbalance at rim flange: 10 gr (0.35 oz)
  • Tire balancing weight: 10-70 gr (0.35-2.47 oz), spacing 10 gr (0.35 oz)
Also See: Vibration

Wheel Offset

The stock wheel is 30 mm positive offset (mounting face is 30mm outboard of the wheel's center line). This offset perfectly centers the tire inside the wheel well.

Because the stock wheel is 4" wide, it can fit the stock 155-width tire or a wider 165-width tire. Any wider tire, such as 175-width, requires a 5" wide wheel.

STOCK = 30 mm offset
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For more information see main article: Offset

* Choosing Wheel Offset for wide tires
* Selecting compatible FWD Wheels
* Measuring Offset
* Offset size that work with stock bodywork

Scrub Radius

Too much scrub makes the car a bit unstable under braking and therefore won't generate quite as much cornering grip. This applies mostly to the front suspension (due to the kingpin inclination angle) and not so much to the rear (where camber is nominally zero due to the live-axle design).

This means spacing your wheels outward (away from the strut) is generally bad, increasing your scrub radius. Using negative offset wheels, wheel spacers, or longer LCA or longer ball joints will exacerbate this problem.

McPherson struts have a scrub radius problem in general. However, since Porsche 911 and most BMWs use McPherson strut, it is not necessarily a serious handling problem which cannot be overcome. Newer modifed-strut designs (such as 2011 GM HiPer Strut and 2011 Ford RevoKnuckle designs) reduce the scrub radius. For your old car, keep the scrub radius to the minimum.


scrub radius. its the distance from the centre of the tyre contact patch to where SAI intersects the ground.

'+' scrub radius where the centre of tyre contact patch is outside SAI, '-' where its inside the SAI.

SAI = Steering Axis Inclination. On a strut front end, its simply an imaginary line drawn throught the centre of the strut. Or, it you have bent struts, it's a line drawn through the lower pivot (balljoint) and the top 'pivot' (where the shock insert bolts to the strut top)

Strut front ends apparently don't like lots of + scrub.

Obviously with a given wheel offset, the only way to alter scrub is to alter the SAI. Movint the top of the strut inwards will do that, but also move the centre of tyre contact patch outwards to a lesser extent, so you can't really alter it all that much.

anyway, all i really know is my +3 offset (103mm backspace) 7" Hotwires work much better than the -10 (90mm backspace) offset 7" superlites I had. Would other less offset wheels work better? I dunno...

reference: LB18_110 on 1200 coupe race car


Largest Sizes to Fit 1200

17-inch diameter wheels easily fit the 1200. The key is: width of the tyre and overall height of the tyre. Even 18" wheels are being used on 1200s with stock bodywork, if a skinny low-profile tire is used.

The wheel mainly positions the tire within the wheelwell. The tire is the part that will rub on the fender or rub on the spring. So the tire size is more important than the wheel size.

To make maximum use of the wheelwell width:

  • Front: 3.25" is the maximum backspace (which is used by the stock 4" wheel). So if going wider, the Offset must be reduced from +30.
  • Rear: +30 Offset works best with Datsun 1200, allowing the largest width tyres (205-width tyres).

You can fit even wider tires by shifting them out of the fender opening. A zero offset wheel will do this with anything larger than 165-wide tires. The tires will rub on the bodywork unless they are very low profile (small diameter, such as 205/50R13). But usually Rolling the Guard and/or overfender flares are utilized.

18s
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16"
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  • 4": B110 12" stockers are 4" wide with +30 offset
  • 4.5": B310 13" +30 stockers won't fit the front of the 1200. They hit the brake calipers, which may be related to the shape of the wheel.
  • 5.5": Most with appropriate offset will fit a Datsun 1200. 15mm offset wheels fit nicely under the front guards, but look anemic on the rear.
  • 6-inch wide wheels: most will not fit, but a zero offset will.
  • 6.5": the biggest 15s you can put on are +24 15x6.5 even then they stick out a couple of mm past the fenders
  • 6.5" 16s with a 40mm offset (silvia wheels or R32 skyline stock rims fit this). These wheels are the limit, I have 195/45 R16 on it and they sit within the guard and don't rub anything....but the front of the guard has been altered.
  • 7" Reportedly 13x7 +0 fits perfectly
  • 7" wide wheels with offset of +10 require front guards modification (they will rub on the fenders). At full lock -- depending on the tires -- the fronts will probably scrub inside the guards
  • 7" 14s with 0 offset sit flush with the rear and poke a little on the front. More positive offset bring them inside, but then you risk hitting the struts
  • 7": 15s +10 offset on fronts and +2 offset on rears. Tires rub a little at full lock. With pumped guards with possibly 15x7 -2 offset would work better.
  • 7": I have 14x7 on my 1200. With zero offset. It is a tight fit with stretched tires. Mine have 175/60R14 tires, so obviously they are stretched over the 7 inch wide rim.
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See: Tire Sizes for a discussion of the largest tires that will fit and which wheels are needed for those tires.

IMPORTANT
Height has little to do with your wheel, but 
more to do with the tire. See Tires
a 195-width tire will fit if 
small enough diameter (e.g. 195-50R15)
You may need to roll the fender.

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Negative Offset shifts the wheel outwards

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Rear

Rear wheel mounting flanges in Datsun 1200 reportedly can vary by 10mm side to side (see offset diff housing alignment problem?).

  • 7": 13x7 with 0 offset and they fill the gaurds perfectly. The tire will be under the guard lip, and will rub if the 1200 is lowered unless the tires are very small diameter.
  • 8.5": 13" -15 with 175/60R13
  • 9": 13 x 9 zero offset, tire 215/50r13
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Ute Rear

There is more room under the rear of the Datsun 1200 pickup model, compared to the sedans, wagons and coupes. However, the leaf springs are the same relative location, so practical limits are the same as coupe, sedan and wagon.

Weights

Stock Datsun 1200 Wheels (12 x 4) weigh 11 pounds each. Virtually all aftermarket alloy wheels are heavier, except for very expensive magnesium wheels.

See main article: Wheel Weights

Wheel Adapters

Wheel adapters can be used. These bolt to the hub, then you can fit other wheels. For example, fitting 5-bolt wheels to the stock 4-bolt hubs.

Wheel Spacers

If the offset of your wheels is too positive, you can use spacers to space them out to the proper place. You may need to fit longer wheel studs.

See main article: Wheel Spacers

If the wheel offset is too negative, they will fit the fenders (guards) and there is nothing you can do except cut out the bodywork, perhaps fitting large flares.

Modifying Axles to fit other wheel patterns

Modifying Axles to fit other wheel patterns can be done as well. For example, you might have the axles drilled to fit five bolts, enabling you to use 5-bolt wheels.

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Suppliers

See Rims

Aftermarket Wheels

See Rims

Compatible Wheels

Any wheel that is 4-bolt on 4.5 inch circle (114.3 mm PCD) and 71mm center hole fits will bolt onto the Datsun 1200, depending on the offset. Fitment also includes the tire sizes, as taller tires may hit the bodywork.

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NOTE: The offset on most front-wheel drive wheels is too much.

Wheels that fit can be sourced from these vehicles:

  • Rear-wheel drive Toyota
  • 1960s Ford Falcon and Mustang 4-lug (6-cylinder models)
  • Chevrolet Corvair (5 x 13)
    • pefect for the rear
    • may need a 1/4 inch spacer on fronts to clear the brake caliper
  • Rear-wheel drive Datsun & Nissan models.
  • Datsun B310 wheels fit the rear, but do not fit the front of Datsun 1200
  • Datsun 240Z wheels -- 14"
  • Uni-lug alloy wheels
  • Rear-wheel-drive Mitsubishi
  • Skyline R31 spare steel wheels (14")

Nearly any rwd 4-lug on 4.5 inch bolt centers fit. These are equivalent to "114.3 PCD" in metric conversion terms.

What WONT work:

  • early Honda
  • Isuzu/Holden Gemini
  • Ford Escort/Cortina
  • early Mazda
  • Subaru
  • some SAAB
  • Ford Escort/Pinto/Mustang II/Mustang Fox

FWD Rims

FWD rims are typically a high offset (+35 or more), and may require a spacer if used on a 1200.

  • Acura Legend 1986-1990 (15x6", 64.1 center hole)
  • Acura Vigor 1991-1994
  • Acura TC 1992-1995
  • Acura TL 2.5 1995- (15x6", 64.1 center hole)
  • Acura CL 2.2/3.0 1995- (15x6", 64.1 center hole)
  • Chevrolet Sprint 1988-1989 (12x4, 10mm studs, 59.6 center)
  • Ford Festiva 1987-1993 (12x4)
  • Ford Laser (KA to KH)
  • Geo Metro 1989-1997 (12x4, 10mm studs, 59.6 center)
  • Honda Accord 1990- (14x6, 15x6, 64.1 center)
  • Hyundai Excel
  • Kia 2001- (67.1 center)
  • SAAB 99 1968-1980 (5.5 inch wide, needs spacer)
  • SAAB 900, 900 Turbo 1979-1987 (needs spacer)
  • Suzuki 1989- including Swift, Aerio, Verona, Reno, Forenza
  • Volvo 40-series 1998- including 15x6 (centers need boring out to 70mm)

Saab Wheels

The offset is a little too positive - have to run a small spacer to clear the front strut.

5.5 inch wide Saab wheels with 175/55 & 185/55 tyres.
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Unknown Saab rims
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  • SAAB 99 1968-1980 (5.5 inch wide, needs spacer)
  • 1979-1983 SAAB 900
  • 1984-1987 SAAB 900, 900 Turbo (6" wide, needs spacer) 71.5 centers

This tyre and Saab wheel combo needs no spacer
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Sigma Rims

Unknown what mods are need to fit Mitsubishi Sigma wheels.

Australia
* Chrysler Sigma 1978-1980
* Mitsubishi Sigma from 1981

1977-1980 #GE Sigma SE 14x5.5 with 195/65R14
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1982 GH #Sigma Turbo rims 15 x 6 inch
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1984-1985 GK Sigma SE 14X6JJ
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GE Sigma SE

  • 1977-1980 Australia GE Sigma SE
  • 1976-1979 Japan Galant Lamba
  • 1978-1983 USA Plymouth Sapporo

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14x5.5 with 195/65R14
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Sigma Turbo

1982 GH Sigma Turbo rims 15 x 6 inch 4x114.3 (Sigma Turbo was a limited run on 500 cars)
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Toyota

Celica

4-spoke Styled Steel Wheel
* 1973-1983 Corolla [1]
* 1974-1975A20 Celica
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A40 Celica 1978-1981
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Corolla RWD

E30 1974-1979
E70 1979-1983

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TE71 Levin pointie with slots
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Supra

A60 Celica XX 1981-1986/Z10 Soarer
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Nissan-Datsun Wheels

See Main Article: Nissan wheels

Bakkie Deluxe Wheels

B140 Champ with deluxe option wheels
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Bakkie White-spoke Wheels

B140 Champ wheels (trail duster style aka white-spoke steels)
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Factory Champ rims on 1200 GX
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A-LINE "Spoke White" of the Steel Outback Range (8-spoke)
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