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= Overview = = Overview =
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24195 Stock 1200 strut tops] protrude above the tower:+Stock 1200 strut tops protrude above the tower:
-<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/24195.jpg</img>+<br><img size=400>http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/24195.jpg</img> [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24195 album]
The stock tops are non-adjustable regarding [[Wheel alignment]]. The stock tops are non-adjustable regarding [[Wheel alignment]].
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 +The strut top consists of the Insulator, Bearing and Oil Seal
 +<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=24010 http://datsun1200.com/uploads/photos/24010.jpg]
= Measurements = = Measurements =
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= Adjustable = = Adjustable =
 +== Datsun Competition ==
The Datsun Competition suspension manual recommends slotting the tower bolt holes for camber adjustability. The Datsun Competition suspension manual recommends slotting the tower bolt holes for camber adjustability.
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-= DIY =+== DIY ==
For about $20, you can make camber tops. Buy a 5mm (1/4") circle 6" in diameter. Fit into strut tower, and mark the holes. Drill the three holes. Drill the center hole off-center for extra negative camber. Mount using the stock strut top bearing. For about $20, you can make camber tops. Buy a 5mm (1/4") circle 6" in diameter. Fit into strut tower, and mark the holes. Drill the three holes. Drill the center hole off-center for extra negative camber. Mount using the stock strut top bearing.
 +
 +[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1259 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1259.jpg]
These won't have the stock rubber anti-shock mounting. These won't have the stock rubber anti-shock mounting.
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You can also drill the center hole a little rearward of center for extra castor, but with large-diameter tires it runs the risk of pulling the tyre in to the footwell. See [[Castor]]. You can also drill the center hole a little rearward of center for extra castor, but with large-diameter tires it runs the risk of pulling the tyre in to the footwell. See [[Castor]].
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10279 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10279.jpg]+[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10279 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10279.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6743 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/6743.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2289 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2289.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2290 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2290.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2291 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2291.jpg]
-= Noltec =+== Noltec ==
NOLTEC makes camber tops for Datsun B110, B120, 120Y. NOLTEC makes camber tops for Datsun B110, B120, 120Y.
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[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2467 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2467.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2468 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2468.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2469 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2469.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2470 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2470.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2467 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2467.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2468 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2468.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2469 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2469.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2470 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2470.jpg]
-= Aftermarket =+== Aftermarket ==
Aftermarket strut tops are adjustable in one or two dimensions. Unfortunately, most do not include an insulator and so will transmit shock and vibration to the body. Aftermarket strut tops are adjustable in one or two dimensions. Unfortunately, most do not include an insulator and so will transmit shock and vibration to the body.
 +
 +Maddat prototype
 +<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8482 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8482.jpg]
S13 camber tops fit straight into the 3 holes, get the thread sleeve modified to fit standard strut rod thread size as S13's run a larger shock. The only downside is that as the 1200 strut top reaches up through the strut tower 2 inches, you would be then mounting the shocker end 2 inches lower using these (and most) adjustable tops. This means you have lost two inches of shocker travel in the bump direction. S13 camber tops fit straight into the 3 holes, get the thread sleeve modified to fit standard strut rod thread size as S13's run a larger shock. The only downside is that as the 1200 strut top reaches up through the strut tower 2 inches, you would be then mounting the shocker end 2 inches lower using these (and most) adjustable tops. This means you have lost two inches of shocker travel in the bump direction.
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The strut rod may not go through the top hat far enough to get the nut on. So use a shanked nut (as come with aftermarket kits). The strut rod may not go through the top hat far enough to get the nut on. So use a shanked nut (as come with aftermarket kits).
-<br>http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm219/ddgonzal/Datsun%201200/Parts/21m51fo.jpg+<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9599 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9599.jpg]
-<br>This also fits the large hole, and centers the small strut rod.+<br>This shanked nut also fits the large hole, and centers the small strut rod.
[http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=372900#forumpost372900 discussion] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=372900#forumpost372900 discussion]
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Cusco Cusco
-<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11853 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11853.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11181 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11181.jpg] +<br>[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11853 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11853.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11181 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11181.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9202 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9202.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3042 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/3042.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3043 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/3043.jpg]
= Part Numbers = = Part Numbers =
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= Photo Index = = Photo Index =
-[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1249 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1249.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1255 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1255.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1259 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/1259.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2289 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2289.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2290 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2290.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=2291 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/2291.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3042 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/3042.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=3043 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/3043.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=6743 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/6743.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8482 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8482.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=8925 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/8925.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9202 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9202.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=9599 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/9599.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10005 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10005.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10017 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10017.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10100 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10100.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10182 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10182.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10183 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10183.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10184 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10184.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11182 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11182.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11243 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11243.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12037 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/12037.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14796 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/14796.jpg]+[http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=10005 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/10007.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11182 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11182.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=11243 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/11243.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=12037 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/12037.jpg] [http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=14796 http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/thumbs/14796.jpg]
[[Category:Front Axle And Front Suspension]] [[Category:Front Axle And Front Suspension]]

Revision as of 11:15, 9 November 2015

The Datsun 1200 strut top is a rubber insulator for the the strut, and utilizes a bearing for easy rotation for the steering system. Most aftermarket adjustable strut tops do not include an insulator, so are not recommended for a street or off-road vehicle.

Contents

Also see

Overview

Stock 1200 strut tops protrude above the tower:
album

The stock tops are non-adjustable regarding Wheel alignment.

The strut top consists of the Insulator, Bearing and Oil Seal
24010.jpg

Measurements

Bolt circle PCD      123 mm (4.84 inch)
stud to stud center  107 mm (4.21 inch)
stud nuts            08911-10810 NUT-HEX M8 x 1.25
tower hole
strut rod nut        08912-34210 NUT-HEX SELF LOCK M12
strut rod hole

123 mm Circle (107 mm stud to stud) is the same as Datsun 510(1600), A10 (Stanza/510), Nissan Silvia, R31, etc.

8925.jpg

Comparison

Strut tops: B210 (left) vs B110 (right)
album
The B110 strut tops are different from B210 & B310 tops. They latter have a higher profile and raise the car up, so use the B110 tops. If there is nothing poking up through the hole in the strut tower,then it's "wrong" for a 1200.

Fitting 1200 tops into 120Y lowers the car 2"
10022.jpg

Covers

TIP: You can use rubber covers from an early 90's Mazda 323 w/ electric adjustable suspension. Thse covers sits perfectly over a 1200 strut tower, even with large 1200 strut tops or camber-adjustable strut tops.

10017.jpg B310 tops

Adjustable

Datsun Competition

The Datsun Competition suspension manual recommends slotting the tower bolt holes for camber adjustability.

See main article: Camber

352.jpg 355.jpg

DIY

For about $20, you can make camber tops. Buy a 5mm (1/4") circle 6" in diameter. Fit into strut tower, and mark the holes. Drill the three holes. Drill the center hole off-center for extra negative camber. Mount using the stock strut top bearing.

1259.jpg

These won't have the stock rubber anti-shock mounting.

You can also drill the center hole a little rearward of center for extra castor, but with large-diameter tires it runs the risk of pulling the tyre in to the footwell. See Castor.

10279.jpg 6743.jpg 2289.jpg 2290.jpg 2291.jpg

Noltec

NOLTEC makes camber tops for Datsun B110, B120, 120Y.

NOLTEC N44016  polyester (for street)
NOLTEC N44016S solid (for clubsport)
2471.jpg

2467.jpg 2468.jpg 2469.jpg 2470.jpg

Aftermarket

Aftermarket strut tops are adjustable in one or two dimensions. Unfortunately, most do not include an insulator and so will transmit shock and vibration to the body.

Maddat prototype
8482.jpg

S13 camber tops fit straight into the 3 holes, get the thread sleeve modified to fit standard strut rod thread size as S13's run a larger shock. The only downside is that as the 1200 strut top reaches up through the strut tower 2 inches, you would be then mounting the shocker end 2 inches lower using these (and most) adjustable tops. This means you have lost two inches of shocker travel in the bump direction.

They mount 180 degrees the wrong way so when set for negative camber in a 1200 that would be the setting for positive camber in an s13.

discussion

So it is recommended, that when using aftermarket camber tops, to use a shorter strut insert but which still has a full range of travel.

They also need a rose joint spacer between bearing and tophat to allow spherical bearing in tophat to allow movement!

The strut rod may not go through the top hat far enough to get the nut on. So use a shanked nut (as come with aftermarket kits).
9599.jpg
This shanked nut also fits the large hole, and centers the small strut rod.

discussion

Adjustable in one dimension (camber only):
1249.jpg 1255.jpg 9599.jpg

Two dimension adjustable (camber + caster):
1259.jpg 2471.jpg

Bolt circle: 123mm

Adjustable strut tops are often available on eBay, or some buy them from TRD. Most Datsun/Nissan use the same bolt circle, but some use larger diameter bolts or larger strut shaft diameter (modify as necessary):

* eBay
* TRD
* Cusco

S13
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Cusco
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Part Numbers

54320-H1000 INSULATOR-STRUT MOUNTING (2)
 08915-53810 WASHER-PLAIN M8 (6)
 08915-13810 WASHER-SPRING M8 (6) 6
 08911-10810 NUT-HEX M8X1.25 (6) 6
54325-H1000 BEARING-STRUT MOUNTING (2)

Photo Index

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